maybe i can help a little with the guys that never had a blower before on a car, or are wondering how the new 4.6 is going to hold up with its 9.8.1 comp. and powder metal rods. my current ride is a 96 LT1 Z28 B4C car, my last car was a built LT1 with a D1SC procharger with forged bottom end and AFR heads that was a 10 sec. car with just 14lbs. of boost. what you guy have to consider that alot of the f-body owners have had to for years is that 1.you need a intercooler with that much comp. if you plan on going above 6lbs., and if you not then its still a really good idea. 2 the powder metal rods if done' correctly can handle 500hp(maybe more) with no detonation so like all of you have said a tune is vital. i like the 05+ stangs cause of the features it has from the factory, mandrel bent exhaust and tuned to make 300hp on 89 octane! plus i hate to say it but it looks better than the camaro, but the T/A is still a great looking car but any 93+ f-body is a you know what to work on. what i can't tell you is which system is better cause i've never owned a roots type blower car or a twin screw car. but if you plan on going above the 8 or 9 lb. boost range expect the life of a stock short block to be limited alot less with that much comp.
one more thing before any of you start bashing on me or my car just know that i am looking to get my second GT stang ever but i haven't decided yet cause i also like the LS2 GTO's, the GTO has more room for my kids so thats why i am strongly considering it otherwise i would probably buy my GT this weekend.
I took the plunge and bought a Saleen w/Upgrade for my 05 GT along with their gauge pod setup. I bought from Hillbank Motorsports and so far I have been pleased with the service they have offered. I will say that Saleen lags in having items available ie Out of Stock seems to be an issue with them. Moving on I will upgrade my brakes first, then move on to the suspension followed by the install of my Saleen. I will have Performance Autosports in Richmond VA do the install along with the dyno testing. I will use the Saleen air intake setup. I also will upgrade to 3.73 gears vs the factory 3.55 along iwth a Meziere electric water pump.
I currently have JBA Shorty stainless steel headers with Jet Hot coating, a C&L CAI with a custom tune, Flowmaster mufflers, solid motor mounts, Steeda springs and a Steeda panhard bar.
Yes a GTO would probably be a better pick if your worried about space,but dosn't it both u that its an australian based platform with a rear wishbone style suspension that's really built for dirt road stability.I have a 68 GTO and was wanting to buy the new one but couldnt get over the fact that it looked like a new grandprix.I think ill be happier with my all aluminum 3-valve and near 50/50 weight distrubution.
ok, i have to say after tackling the intercooled procharger install on the 06 mustang, "Crap" that job really sucked! The supercharger itself wasnt so bad or the main bracket but all the plumbing and accessory brackets really sucks. not to mention everything is so crammed in there you cant fit dental floss in between anything. it really "IS" that tight!!!! and dont get me started on the blowers belt tensioner system, the design is more than good enough to get the job done but it took me several hours just to get the damn belt on because of the design and lack of movement from the parts. it does look good but my god what a chore it was! dont be fooled by claims. with a lift and a couple of guys you might be able to knock this job out in 8 hours but one person with every tool imaginable at my disposal and 9 prior supercharger installs for experience and it has taken every bit of two days days and that doesnt include installing the fuel system, granted i am anal and double check every little thing and have to make sure everything has proper clearance, but hey, thats me. the twin screws would certainly have a much easier install and cleaner appearance but i cant wait to see how mine performs and after everythingit does look pretty darn good under my hood! the car will be tuned this friday after gobble gobble day as i have yet to receive my injectors or fuel pumps but replacements were fedexed overnight and i should be able to install them tomorrow night or wednesday at the latest. i will post the results as soon as i have them.
OK I have a question here i need to be inlighten please.
I have a 2004 Pontiac GTO 5.7L with an sts turbo kit. I put down a easy 470 HP and 520 LBS to the wheels. Runs good But my rear end and breaks keeping have problems so I was going to return my car to stock trade it in for a 2006 mustange GT never had a ford before but wanted to try one. But from what you guys are tell me the max Horsepwer is 400 to the wheels about 450 to the fly wheel on a Mustange GT. Is this for real are u guys bsing me. I mean my niebors 05 gto put down 355 to the wheels stock. With the rebates from ford are real temping but if the stock motor can not handle at least 150 over stock thats perrty bad.
So tell me really whats the HP that the new 4.6 can handle
these cars can easily handle well over 400 to the wheels but there are variables. such as the type of fuel available in your area. im in florida so 93 octane is plentiful. the tune and fuel are the most important things. what people have been doing to save money and hassle is supercharge their cars and skimp on the fuel delivery and mass air. fact is the factory mass air even with the diablo sport mafia pings out at about 450 hp. a larger maf is a requirement, the SCT 90mm is the one i chose. also, very few people address the fuel pump issue as well and the reality is if you want over 400 hp safely you need dual fuel pumps. i installed twin GT40 pumps in my car and problem solved. lastl is injectors, most people choose to run the 39.5 injectors but again they are being capped on peek hp, go with a 60lb injector and you should be good in combination with a large maf. i have these mods plus a few others but no motor work and am betting even money on at least 520 to the rear wheels but am very hopeful of 550+. my car will be dynoed this friday and i will post #'s next week. but remember the tune, keep it safe, as long as you dont lean out up top you should be fine but 500hp is easily accomplished and i know of several others that are running between 450 to 480rwhp on the 39.5 injectors so dont beleive the hype and single fuel pumps. buy one, youll love it! the 400hp cars are saleen equipped cars that are only pushing 4-5lbs of boost and stock 19lb injectors, there is only so much you can do with 19lb injectors after all.
ok boys and girls, the numbers are in. on a dynojet in the middle of the afternoon @87.27degrees my 06, automatic GT car made 463.66rwhp, max torque was at 373.70. these were not the maximum #'s ran but what i am unfortunately being forced to deal with at the moment. according to the shop doing the tune the car is way above 500rwhp but with no way to get it to the pavement, the factory torque converter cant put the power to the pavement, there will be a converter added after christmas when cash is flowing again and i will post new #'s. i should have my exhaust installed at that time as well. i should mention that at the moment the only things that have been done are 60lb injectors, procharger @ 12lbs, colder plugs, and 90mm MAF, no gears, exhaust or anything else. none of my pictures will post on this site for some reason otherwise i would post, can anyone tell me what the problem with posting pictures is?
The numbers are pretty simple. If your on 93 octane gas, keep it to 8lbs, 3.6 pully to be safe. Can still expect 440-450 rwhp with safe custom tune. Otherwise you are living on B O R R O W E D time... Spank time-Booooooom, Errrk
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06'Mustang GT all upgrades.Saleen supercharger,JDM 3.6 pully 8lb Street / S Race tune Saleen&Steeda suspension. Chrome Bullitts, Nitto 285/40/18 rear 255/45/18 front. Borla exhaust. New car air freshener.
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I noticed that you had work done in Richmond. I am also in Richmond and looking at which sc to add to my 06. So far with only 3000 miles on the car, I have only added Granatelli CAI. I am considering Saleen, Whipple, Pro-charger, Rousch and Vortec. Are you satisfied with the Saleen and service from the shop in Richmond. I would be interested in talking with the same shop about doing my work. Thanks.
Maybe someone can help.. i have a 2005 Mustang GT Auto, I have tuned it too 465 rwhp and it goes nice..i hv lots of mods but my main mod if the procharger D1SC, i have nothing but problems with this system and i really, really regret buying this! Anyways i won’t bore u and go into all the problems cos most have be resolved apart from this..: When driving the car fast, over long distance or 2 short sprints the car will over heat immediately and all the water will drain straight away.. at first i thought this amount of water will come from a pipe somewhere but then i realized this only happens when i drive the car hard.. so today it happened and i quickly stopped and opened the hood and found the water spraying like a fountain out of the radiator cap.. I’m aware these caps are specially designed to release the water after a certain amount of pressure (16 PSI). My question is how is the water getting this hot in the 1st place.. i live in a hot part of the world (Dubai) but it happens even on a cool evening..After just a few quick bursts.. Basically the water is getting way too hot, boiling then being released in full though the radiator cap.. After 20 Secs its empty..
So how is the water getting to this temp in the first place..? Please all your advice and opinions will be much appreciated as i get little or no support regarding this from my local dealer.
Maybe someone can help.. i have a 2005 Mustang GT Auto, I have tuned it too 465 rwhp and it goes nice..i hv lots of mods but my main mod if the procharger D1SC, i have nothing but problems with this system and i really, really regret buying this! Anyways i won’t bore u and go into all the problems cos most have be resolved apart from this..: When driving the car fast, over long distance or 2 short sprints the car will over heat immediately and all the water will drain straight away.. at first i thought this amount of water will come from a pipe somewhere but then i realized this only happens when i drive the car hard.. so today it happened and i quickly stopped and opened the hood and found the water spraying like a fountain out of the radiator cap.. I’m aware these caps are specially designed to release the water after a certain amount of pressure (16 PSI). My question is how is the water getting this hot in the 1st place.. i live in a hot part of the world (Dubai) but it happens even on a cool evening..After just a few quick bursts.. Basically the water is getting way too hot, boiling then being released in full though the radiator cap.. After 20 Secs its empty..
So how is the water getting to this temp in the first place..? Please all your advice and opinions will be much appreciated as i get little or no support regarding this from my local dealer.
Thanks in advance.
Mark
I have had this same problem on my 98 cobra with a procharger system !!
First I would check the T-stat .... it might not be opening and causing overheating...... but in my case that was not the problem...what had happened was I blew my head gasket slightly and when I was under boost the air from the blower was going into the cooling system, by way of the water jackets that are in the head and block ....causing it to spray out of my radiator cap. (once I replaced my head gasket all was good again ).
just my 2 cents ( hope this might help you find your problem )
From a technical standpoint and by the symptoms you discribe, I would definately suspect a blown head gasket. It could also be something as simple as a bad intake manifold gasket. Definately sounds like your procharger is over pressurizing your cooling system while under boost! I doubt it's overheating based on what you have discribed. But, depending on how many miles you have on her, it could be a bad t-stat as the other gentleman mentioned. Could be but most likely it isn't again due to the symptoms you have discribed here. You have used the word 'water' a few times. I wonder, are you running straight water in your cooling system? If so, that's a giant no no and will cause all sorts of problems on top of what you are already experiencing. If so, you'd better steal yourself to getting the correct type and ratio of antifreeze in your cooling system immediately! Anyway, first thought is blown head gaskets or bad intake mainifold gasket/s. I'd pray for it being the latter of the two if I were you ;-). Good luck and god speed! Wolfey2k
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07 Vista Blue Pony Upgrades / Mods In Order: Dynamat Snd Prfng True Dual Exhaust X W/Flowmasters GT Rear Bmpr Cvr C&L CAI W/Helix TB Spacer B a m a Chips Custom Tune TLok JBA Wires
Wow, I have to say I am a bit envious of your GT's. Alas I couldn't afford one at the time but I am pretty darn happy with my lil pony too ;-). Nice cars for what they are and one can squeeze a shiz pile of power out of them with the right bolt ons. As you probably know there are lots of us 6'ers passing stock GT's nowdays. Most don't buy the GT's because of costs, insurance, payments etc. and some don't like the GT look as well as they do the pony package.
Anyway, I wanted to ask you guys that are pushing over 450 rwhp, exactly what are the mods you are running? Especially those that are pumping out 500+ CHP! God! Some Shelby owners must want to smack themselves when they get spanked by a GT! I know nobody's going to catch a GT40 though but hey, most of us can't afford one anyway and there aren't many places to drive one the way we would like anyway except for the autobahn hwy or a race track ;-). You know smokey would be watchin you like a hawk! Even more so than they watch us stangers. Of course a lot of them just want to know what you have under the hood and how much it costs since a lot of them can't afford one either ;-).
I'd sure like to see some numbers on some modded Shelby GT's too! Bet one can squeeze better than 650 HP out of those bad boys!
I am looking at being able to afford the higher payments etc. on a GT later on this year or early next but when I can, I will most likely go nuts and get a Shelby GT 500 anyway. I will keep the pony in any case. Very nice ride.
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07 Vista Blue Pony Upgrades / Mods In Order: Dynamat Snd Prfng True Dual Exhaust X W/Flowmasters GT Rear Bmpr Cvr C&L CAI W/Helix TB Spacer B a m a Chips Custom Tune TLok JBA Wires
I received a quote from my local Ford dealer for the installation and tune of a saleen supercharger on my stock '05 manual. Does $7,900.00 seem too steep? I'd love to hear from anyone in the Northeast on what they paid. Thanks!
wow, that sound very steep to me.. Im not from the US but i got my installed for $1700.. i expect some increase if u get it installed at the dealer but $7000.. OUCH!
I figure the part should run $5,000 so they are asking for $2,900 to install. I was hoping the installation would run around $1k. They claim to have the Saleen in stock and ready to go. I'll have to sit on this for a while.
I think that if they charge 100 dollars an hour at 2900 dollars it would have taken 29 hours which most installs take 16 hours. I think the price is too steep for a saleen S/C. Will the Frod dealer still honor the warranty to the motor after the install? How many PSI are you running after the install?
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2006 Mustang GT with Cervinis Kit Whipple H.O S/C 465 RWHP and 440RWTQ
Thanks for your input. The dealer guarantees the work and includes full dyno. They also state that their "performance team" has installed 22 to date on the 05+ Mustangs. They are also willing to install the Ford Performace Supercharger which I think is similar to the Kenny Bell. I found out about this dealership in the Mustangs & Fast Fords mag where they had a beautiful "boss" replica highlighted and bragged all the work was done at this dealership, including graphics. This is a dealer who is well known throughout Rhode Island and S.E. Mass. I've been asking around for another option locally, including a dealer that will install the Roush. Seems lots of small performance shops will be happy to install the Vortech or Paxton, but they aren't jumping at the chance to install the twin-screw/roots. I know that the centrifugal superchargers are not for me, as I want power at low rpm's. Honestly , I don't know enough about this or how complicated this installation is, that's why I'm here at the forum. I hate to say this, but my next strategy may be to put a man's voice on the phone.
im new to this page but ive read all of the posts. i have a 06 mustang with a paxton novi 2200 blower on it. it runs good but from what i hear the tuner (predator) it came with is not the greatest. i was wondering what your openions are and what you think about a 90mm mass air flow senser because i also heard that if you go over so much power its wise to get one. i jest want to get everything ready for when i take it to get tuned. thanks for all replys and thoughts
I put on a Whipple H/O kit with 500hp at the rear wheels including an intercooler on my 07. Car has 700 miles on it. It is an incredible experience and very easy to drive normally and will scare you sh*tless if you put your oot in it for too long. Big power improvement over the non-intercooled 400 hp kit which I upgraded to this kit. Since it was a ford kit put on by a ford dealer it is all under warranty, which is worth the money in case it does blow up. If you are into DIY the instructions are very clear and well done in color. Dealer had no problems at all. Includes all hardware, tuner, gt 500 fuel pump, 38 lb injectors etc. So far I would recommend this kit to anyone and for once I don't wish I had more power.
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'07 Shelby Convertible Replica, triple black premium, Ford/Whipple H/O Intercooled Supercharger (500 RWHP), Ford Racing shifter/suspension/x-pipe, Corsa, 5-speed, limited slip 3.55, shaker 1000, CDC lite bar, CDC side scoops.
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