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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/4/2006 10:55:26 AM   
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sorry... now I see that you have a Cold Air Kit... Did you dyno this yet?

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/4/2006 10:57:22 AM   
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...also am wondering if a strut tower brace will slide throug the charger gap... Any problems clearing the hood?

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/5/2006 3:33:36 AM   
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Is there a warranty with the Saleen kit?

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/5/2006 7:47:33 AM   
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message changed (see post 52 with more pictures

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/5/2006 7:50:50 AM   
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Message changed (see post 52 with more pictures)

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/5/2006 7:57:33 AM   
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Not sure about warranty for the kit because my car is a genuine factory-built (that is Saleen factory built) Saleen that has a warranty through the Ford dealers who are certified to sell and service Saleens. However, you could go to the saleen website and find the closest Saleen dealer in your area and contact them. I would think that a dealer installed kit would be covered under the same warranties, but am not certain.

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/5/2006 11:16:32 AM   
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If you were asking about my Saleen s/c setup above, here it is:

Saleen s/c with stock 4lb pulley
90mm MAF converter
39lb injectors
JDM cold air intake
SCT2 tunes from JDM Engineering

I had the car dyno'd at the beginning of the week:

359.7rwhp on mustang dyno
408.3rwhp on dynojet

Right now I'm looking into some stiffer engine mounts to eliminate my blower-to-firewall clearance issues. I'm also talking with my tuner company about going with a 5.5 lb pulley on the Saleen blower. Should see a 30 to 40hp increase should I go that route.

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/5/2006 2:38:57 PM   
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I think that most experts would agree that centrifugal superchargers have the best adiabatic efficiency amongst superchargers. In our experience the Rotrex centrifugal has excellent efficiency, combining the centrifugal supercharger with a device that helps speed up the impeller quicker is a great thing, in applications where an even greater throttle response is desired.

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/5/2006 8:30:30 PM   
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Is the twin screw supercharger that is used with the saleen going to make the boost instantly like the Whipples? I have heard this puts extra stress on your clutch and driveline because you have boost right away? Is this true?

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/5/2006 9:20:31 PM   
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quote:

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Is the twin screw supercharger that is used with the saleen going to make the boost instantly like the Whipples? I have heard this puts extra stress on your clutch and driveline because you have boost right away? Is this true?

Yes, the Saleen...like most twin screw blowers, makes it's boost at lower rpms. How quickly you build boost will depend on how hard you open the throttle.
If you're doing lots of hard launches, such as you would at the track, then you are probably putting considerably more strain on your clutch and driveline with a twin screw s/c than you normally would with a NA car. Then again, if you're going to the track and launching hard that often....you really should be upgrading to a higher performance clutch and stronger driveline anyways. But for regular street driving, a twin screw won't put significantly more wear and tear on your drivetrain than if you were still NA. Like anything else.......its all in what u intend to do with the car that determines what you should be looking to upgrade.



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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/6/2006 3:31:14 AM   
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Thanks for all the info. I was more comparing it to a supercharger that builds boost depending on RPM. Like a vortec (magnacharger too?). I would say it's pretty obvious it will put more stress on it than a NA car.

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/7/2006 10:35:00 PM   
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Do they really beleive it's going to be a huge advantage?
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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/8/2006 1:02:44 AM   
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They are speaking about millions. The future shall tell.

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/8/2006 1:22:34 AM   
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Good for them if they can. But you have to sell ALOT of superchargers to make millions of dollars.

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/8/2006 8:16:12 AM   
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Just installed a P-1SC-1 from Procharger on my '06 GT running about 12 psi boost.

Installation was a little bumpy. Blower belt came completely off twice in two days. Ends up the bolt that holds the crankshaft pulley to the harmonic balancer kept backing itself out.

Everything's great now. The guys at Lone Star Performance in Garland TX did a great job on the tune. I'm peaked at 510 rwhp at 6000 rpm. But what's really great is that I am above 450 rwhp from 4000 rpm all the way to redline.

Gonna try to not to run it too hard (yeah right) until I can upgrade the internals sometime early next year. Thinkin of doing a stroker kit when I do that. We'll see.

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/9/2006 12:51:07 PM   
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I had Lonestar put in my Vortech HO kit, but left the canned tuned wich is very rich with no timing adjustments. Their prices are descent, but turn around and customer service leaves alot to be desired. Only 410rwhp, high 400's is possible with a tune, but I'm scared of tanking the engine. How did you know your boost? I didn't know until I installed a boost gauge recently. It increases boost rapidly and hits about 8.5 when the rev limiter kicks in. Did you order another pulley? Which Eibachs did you install? I installed the Sportlines and it really slammed it down. I'm now wondering what the biggest wheel I can install with it so low. You'll love the new power. Everything I've raced that should be respectable gets torched about the top of third going into fouth ( GTO's , C6's ) Do you ever go down to Ennis, or Kennedale?
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ORIGINAL: paco_pony

Just installed a P-1SC-1 from Procharger on my '06 GT running about 12 psi boost.

Installation was a little bumpy. Blower belt came completely off twice in two days. Ends up the bolt that holds the crankshaft pulley to the harmonic balancer kept backing itself out.

Everything's great now. The guys at Lone Star Performance in Garland TX did a great job on the tune. I'm peaked at 510 rwhp at 6000 rpm. But what's really great is that I am above 450 rwhp from 4000 rpm all the way to redline.

Gonna try to not to run it too hard (yeah right) until I can upgrade the internals sometime early next year. Thinkin of doing a stroker kit when I do that. We'll see.



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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/9/2006 5:22:35 PM   
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Has anyone with a Roushcharger pullied down yet? I'm curious as to how it compares with the Saleen once u start upping the boost, but so far I haven't found anyone who has done anything aftermarket to their Roushcharger yet.

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/16/2006 8:57:45 AM   
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Thanks... Nice set up. I spoke with the Aftermarket Sales Manager at Saleen, who advised that the 2007 281SC will come out of the box with 475 HP. They are getting ready to release an upgrade kit for about 1k that includes a new intake hose/tube, 93mm MAF, 39# injectors, a tune program and a 3.87" pulley. This exact package will be factory and warranted on the 07s... I told him to put me down for one when they release it. They are just waiting on sourcing the pulleys and doing the QA testing and sign-off before releasing the kit.

It sounds like you are about there already with your mods...



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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/16/2006 9:08:53 AM   
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Who does your tuning and where do you the Dyno, if you don't mind me asking?

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RE: 05/06 Mustang Supercharger Tech - 5/16/2006 7:25:01 PM   
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quote:

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Who does your tuning and where do you the Dyno, if you don't mind me asking?

I'm assuming, being that you're from LA also, that you're talking to me? I bought a canned SCT2 tune from JDM Engineering. I had my A/F ratios and my dyno runs done at 454 Dyno in Kenner. It's right off of Airline. AJ is a pretty cool guy and he'll help you out with whatever questions you have. If you have need for a dyno or tuning then you should look into his shop.

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