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Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch

  

XxphantomsnypzxX -> Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (1/10/2006 12:30:07 PM)

Well with the Camaro concept finally shown officially, and word of its 400hp, I think Ford is going to have to do something to compete, of course the price of the Camaro is a big question mark, if it will be about the same as a new mustang then ford needs to do something but if its closer to the price of the gt500 ford shouldnt be in as big a trouble but at the same time the variable that we can not answer yet is, will the build quality of the camaro be better than its predecessors? I think that will be the difference between mustangs and camaros if they are similiar price

  
gta289 -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (1/10/2006 12:45:04 PM)

I personally dont even think the Camero will evn come out, and even if it does, it wont look anywhere near the concept model. Just look at the new mustang when it was a concept, it was way too expensive to build, so in turn they chopped the hell out of it, just liek thay will the camero. I dont think it will come back out because, why did it go down the first time.... lack of sales, and they were built like crap

dragonfans04GT -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (1/10/2006 1:05:48 PM)

Well, the last I heard, they were also talking about using that bigass 6.0 liter engine for the new Camaro too. Since Ford has already beefed up the 5.4 in the new GT500, I think that they should use the same engine with no supercharger in the GT. It'll be like the 99+ Mustangs in the sense that they had 4.6 2V in the GT and 4.6 4V with superchargers in the Cobra. Of course, that really doesn't make up for the time and money spent designing the 3V. Hell, they could make the 4.6 3V available for base model GTs and the 5.4 only for premium model GTs.
I think that Chevy will need to look really hard before doing anything, as I'm sure that they have. Their latest exploits to make a faster ride haven't done so well that I've seen. Take that pickup they made, I've seen only a very small handfull on the road, but I've seen a lot of SVT Lightnings. Then you have the GTO, good comeback car in concept, but the body on the car was horrible in my opinion. I hear that the new 06 GTO has some balls to it though. Chevy should stick to the Vette. I really don't think that they can compete in the market and price range of the Mustang...unless they want to drop the price of the Vette about $25K.

turbostang21 -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (1/11/2006 10:12:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: gta289

I personally dont even think the Camero will evn come out, and even if it does, it wont look anywhere near the concept model. Just look at the new mustang when it was a concept, it was way too expensive to build, so in turn they chopped the hell out of it, just liek thay will the camero. I dont think it will come back out because, why did it go down the first time.... lack of sales, and they were built like crap


exactly....thats why it's called a CONCEPT car....it is meant to draw/guage attention. they will not build it like that...too expensive. IF they build one at all, but i can't see them letting the mustang run alone for too long

91 5.0 -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (1/12/2006 11:40:00 AM)

they will make it, but like gta289 said, it will be different. he face is to menacing for the average car. maybe a more subtle v6 and then a mean (concept) looking ss. like ford did with the gt500, a much more aggresive stallion.

757GT -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (1/13/2006 10:28:34 AM)

If all of these cars do come out then Ford will need to put more power in the Stang. The GT will be severly outpowered by the Challenger and the Camaro. If Ford does not go with more power than I will probably get the Challenger.

mysticsvtcobra96 -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (2/4/2006 4:45:53 PM)

yeah i dont think ford will do anything as far as power goes....because look at history..the camaro smokes the mustang in every year that the camaro was built (except for specal model mustangs) and you still see alot more mustangs then you do camaros and t/as anyday

trevman2 -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (2/4/2006 8:42:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mysticsvtcobra96

yeah i dont think ford will do anything as far as power goes....because look at history..the camaro smokes the mustang in every year that the camaro was built (except for specal model mustangs) and you still see alot more mustangs then you do camaros and t/as anyday


I did some research on the production numbers, and the Camaro did not outsell the Mustang in every year of production, especially the last few years of the Camaro. For instance, Mustangs outsold Camaro/Firebird/Trans Am put together more than 2 to 1 in 1998 (170,642 Mustangs to 80,647 GM crap). In 1999, just the black and white Mustangs by themselves (43,730) outsold Camaro for the entire year. In 2000, there were 45,417 Camaros built total but there were 39,791 Mustangs built with black exteriors. From 1986-1993, Mustangs totaled 1,392,124 and Camaro was 821,020. The Camaro numbers gradually went down as the 5.0 became more popular after its reintroduction in 1982, and that is why GM took it off the market.

tinman -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (2/4/2006 10:54:00 PM)

I don't think we need to worry about a new Craparo as it would cost GM 1.5 billion as a minimum to develop it and GM claims not to have any money.
I don't see how they can have any money just now......

Shifty101Easy -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (2/5/2006 2:53:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: trevman2


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ORIGINAL: mysticsvtcobra96

yeah i dont think ford will do anything as far as power goes....because look at history..the camaro smokes the mustang in every year that the camaro was built (except for specal model mustangs) and you still see alot more mustangs then you do camaros and t/as anyday


I did some research on the production numbers, and the Camaro did not outsell the Mustang in every year of production, especially the last few years of the Camaro. For instance, Mustangs outsold Camaro/Firebird/Trans Am put together more than 2 to 1 in 1998 (170,642 Mustangs to 80,647 GM crap). In 1999, just the black and white Mustangs by themselves (43,730) outsold Camaro for the entire year. In 2000, there were 45,417 Camaros built total but there were 39,791 Mustangs built with black exteriors. From 1986-1993, Mustangs totaled 1,392,124 and Camaro was 821,020. The Camaro numbers gradually went down as the 5.0 became more popular after its reintroduction in 1982, and that is why GM took it off the market.



i think he meant power and performance wise camaros smoked mustangs...but the mustangs still outsold the camaros....

trevman2 -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (2/5/2006 4:28:42 PM)

my bad...youre right

hunter9s -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (3/13/2006 6:04:29 PM)

Trevman hit the nail on the head. The reason GM dumped the Carmaro was " THEY DIDN"T SELL " GM was losing their butts on them for years but still kept them around to compete in the mid sized sports car. The Ford Mustang was out selling the Camero 2-1. Another thing their body changes were always subtle, not like the mustang, who lets face it, stayed a step ahead. The Mustang even though there are alot of them around, its the kind of car you don't get sick of because they have so many lines front, sides and rear. The Camaro could never compete with the Mustang in sales, never will, plus consider the Mustang history and tradition. thats right I am a blow hard Mustang GT owner and proud of it.

Steve

95Tbird -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (3/18/2006 3:39:17 PM)

I think GM made a bad left with the 4th gen f-body. It was not a big hit with girls, and they buy a loof the v-6 cars. If the Camaro comes back, and the Challenger, they will have to have a very good base model if they exspect them to do well.

BlackMagic1 -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (3/19/2006 8:05:33 AM)

As for new "retros" the Mustang is a hit and the Dodge Challenger is almost a carbon copy of the 71. But the Camaro concept is butt ugly!You show pics of all 3 to someone , and ask what they are. I'm sure you'll get 2 answers right away!

95Tbird -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (3/19/2006 7:06:04 PM)

Ford needs to put the 5.4 in a Mustang . A Boss or a Mach or something.Even if Gm falls on their face, Dodge will have a rear wheel drive pony car.

Deannostang -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (3/20/2006 1:39:55 PM)

Ford IS putting the 5.4 liter engine in a Mustang......the 2007 GT 500. I think it is basically a slightly detuned version of the engine in the Ford GT. Supercharged 5.4L with around 450 HP and 485+ Lbs of torque. A real screamer! Correct me if I am wrong, but I swear Ford is getting more HP per cu in than any other American manufacturer. Their 5.4L Ford GT will run with any car built today in the world. No V10's or V12's here, just good old American V8 grunt!

95Tbird -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (3/21/2006 1:37:57 AM)

I know about the Gt 500 . But that wont be a car most people can get. I mean in a regular Mustang GT , or , a Boss or something.

jesterj99 -> RE: Just a thought but I think Ford is going to have to step it up a notch (3/21/2006 3:55:57 AM)

Can't wait to see what happens.

  

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