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i thought that the turbo was better, especially since they're not pulley driven. but it turns out that they can eventually damage your car. so i've heard. i like the sounds of a t-trim vortech supercharger!!!!!!!!
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How can a turbo damage your car? Does the same thing a S/C does, just driven by a different force. Besides, a turbo is free hp while a S/C is "parasitic", i.e. takes hp to make hp.
Also, you could make a turbo set up for a lot less than a S/C set up.
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don't forget about the amount of heat turbos give off compared to s/c. add that plus the amount that the engine already puts off, and you start heating up things like vacume lines and others way too much
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Well, an aftermarket hood and intercooler will help with the heat problem, as will mounting the turbo away from all those lines, but you still get more horsepower out of the turbo than you do a S/C running the same boost.
realitivly yes... techincally no..... it all depends on your setup...s/c's full power from the word go.... turbos u have to let pressure build up... s/c's when intercooled run cooler and more effceint then turbos... the only real advatange is that they don't run off the belt... but then again u said it takes hp to make hp....goes both ways for both s/c's and turbos.... u need power to spin the s/c so it can create boost..... for a turbo u need power to build up enough pressure to spin the turbo...see it alll depends..
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True, but I think a turbo's more streetable. As long as you keep the RPM's up, a turbos will do just fine as far as racing goes. I always start 3500 RPM's and above if rolling. Then if on the street or at the track, that low end lag lets you get traction before the boost kicks in. True S/C is more efficient I/C'd, however getting the turbo ceramic coated plus if it's anywhere near flowing air (i.e., an hood scoop on an aftermarket hood), it should keep underhood temps down to a minimum. There have been S/C's known to use 75 hp to turn it, I'd rather put that power to good use thru the tires.
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It can be. It depends. If you want a whole kit, then it can get up to $4000+, but there have been people who have made turbo setups that put their car into 11's for under $500. That's using turbo's off of junkcars, i.e., two t3's from T-bird Turbocoupes, ther's plenty of other cars as well. Go to Turbomustangs.com, there's a ton of information there.
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superchargers & turbos have different qualities,turbos dont take power from the motor but have lag,superchargers dont have lag but take power from the motor its up to you the supercharger route is cheaper than the turbo because of the exotic exhaust work & ignition system,so personaly i would go w/ the supercharger,either a powerdyne for good power & excellent relibility or a procharger for mega power
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Actually, it depends what type of supercharger you have. A roots-type blower doesn't lag, boost is there as soon as you step on the throttle, but centrifugal (sp?) chargers do take time to spool, though I'm not sure whether or not they take longer than turbos. And then again, it depends on what size turbo you have as far as lag goes, there are some that make boost as low as 2000 RPM's, some sooner, but those are the one's that run out of breath towards the top of the tach.
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Turbo setup is pretty simple. Assuming you're gonna keep it a daily driver, there's not a whole lot you eed to change. Some 1.6 ratio rockers, a Ford e-303 cam, new valve springs with retainers, new lifters, and a new timing chain set. All of this should be added before purchasing the turbo kit. The car will idle nicely have a bit more acceleration to it.
When you do get a kit, you should buy some bigger injectors (30 lb. or 36 lb.) You might need a new fuel pump and FMU as well, but most kits come with these. As far as mufflers go when you're turbo charging you want as much flow possible in the exhaust so chambered mufflers aren't really ideal, you're gonna want some Dynomax superturbos. They have a straight-through flow design and only cost $35 a muffler. They open up the most power with your turrbo and reduce alot of back pressure.
If you're looking to spend alot of cash and making more than 13 boost, you're gonna want to get some low-compression forged pistons, forged rods, and forged crankshaft. Some people also like changing their intake manifolds and heads also but the stock ones can handle around 13psi of boost. 13 boost can be quite nice on performance if set up properly and have little lag... but if you're aiming for high hp like the 700+ range you'll n eed these things as well.
After its all setup a good chip will be needed for the air/fuel ratios and Diablo Sport makes the best reprogrammable chip for mustangs.
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a turbo isnt really FREE power! A turbo will create more than normal backpressure in your car. By doing so, actually loses power before boost kicks in. Its called parasitic loss. Also, the heat that comes out from a turbo is MUCH HOTTER than a supercharger. I would pick a supercharger for daily driving, but if its power your looking for on the track, probly turbo.
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I have a vortech supercharger on my 93 notch. I don't know what trim it is cause it was on the car when I bought it but it realy pushes this car down the track. I have had a lot of problems with the car it's self but NO problems with the charger. The only problem I've had out of the charger is the belt slips at high rpm's. I've tried everything to get it to stop slipping but it still does. Even with it slipping past 5,000 rpm's I ran a best of 7.42 in the 1/8th mile. Don't know my 1/4 time casuse the closest 1/4 mile track is over an hour away and I just haven't had the time to make it over there yet. Does anyone know my estimated 1/4 time with an 1/8 time of 7.42?
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[QUOTE=ROBERT420]a turbo isnt really FREE power! A turbo will create more than normal backpressure in your car. By doing so, actually loses power before boost kicks in. Its called parasitic loss. Also, the heat that comes out from a turbo is MUCH HOTTER than a supercharger. I would pick a supercharger for daily driving, but if its power your looking for on the track, probly turbo.[/QUOTE]
in addition to you being a total assclown for even replying to such an old topic...i must say...you're wrong. parasitic means it's feeding off something else. turbo is not parasitic...it may cause power loss, yes, but it is not parasitic.
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