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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/7/2005 4:24:59 PM   
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yeah i like how it has more displacement than our mustangs

AEM and acura have made a top fuel style car with their v6 nsx motor. turbocharged and such.

it might have more displacement than your mustang.

and breyton as far as V-8s not running 250 in the beginning is because it was back in the 30s and nothing went 250 mph. youre right. that car is different. if you go to the dragstrip to watch rail cars and you see car after car go 330+ then you see a 250 mph car. id be imbarassed. whats the purpose of building a 4 cyl. dragster. so he can say "yea well i only used 2 gallons of gas through the quarter and you used 4". the car even sounds like crap

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/7/2005 4:56:56 PM   
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Here we go again with ignorant close minded people. Who made the V8 god of all engines? 250 is still a lot faster than your Mustang will ever go. Get over the fact that it has four cylinders. Just because someone makes a fast four banger dragster doesn't mean the police are going to come and take away you mustang and force you to drive a Prius. It's technology it's different it's not evil.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/7/2005 5:14:32 PM   
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Four cylinders or not Its a fast FUNNY CAR! thats it......FUNNY CAR. I would say the same if it was a mustang shell/motor. Its not worth comparing to our mustangs that are on the street or yet still on the factory frame.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/7/2005 5:45:46 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: M1ke

yeah i like how it has more displacement than our mustangs

AEM and acura have made a top fuel style car with their v6 nsx motor. turbocharged and such.

it might have more displacement than your mustang.

and breyton as far as V-8s not running 250 in the beginning is because it was back in the 30s and nothing went 250 mph. youre right. that car is different. if you go to the dragstrip to watch rail cars and you see car after car go 330+ then you see a 250 mph car. id be imbarassed. whats the purpose of building a 4 cyl. dragster. so he can say "yea well i only used 2 gallons of gas through the quarter and you used 4". the car even sounds like crap


haha you make excuses. This is just the beginning of 4 cyl drag cars, and it's damn near what a V8 would do.

A fast as hell 4 banger and it still gets no respect. I don't understand this absolute hatred for anything that isn't a V8. It just makes no sense. You guys like drag cars, that's a fast drag car... what the hell else do you want?

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/7/2005 7:30:39 PM   
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They are using technology on it that is not allowed on the V8"s. It doesnt matter if its a 4 cylinder i just wish that they went with more cubes. I would like to see a 572 CU 4 cylinder, now that would be cool, its just a matter of time. The japs know what they are doing with the 4 bangers its just a matter of time. If the 2012 mustang had a 4 banger with 700cu would you be mad lol. If you cant handle technology go crawl in a bomb shelter cut off from civilization and eat dehydrated food.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 1:06:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 1993mustanggt


quote:

ORIGINAL: M1ke

yeah i like how it has more displacement than our mustangs

AEM and acura have made a top fuel style car with their v6 nsx motor. turbocharged and such.

it might have more displacement than your mustang.

and breyton as far as V-8s not running 250 in the beginning is because it was back in the 30s and nothing went 250 mph. youre right. that car is different. if you go to the dragstrip to watch rail cars and you see car after car go 330+ then you see a 250 mph car. id be imbarassed. whats the purpose of building a 4 cyl. dragster. so he can say "yea well i only used 2 gallons of gas through the quarter and you used 4". the car even sounds like crap


Well 1993mustanggt I guess you missed my point. Cars weren't doing 250 in the 30's. No kidding. What I meant was is look at all the years that have gone into developing V8 engines for drag racing. Look at the millions and millions of dollars that go into some of these top teams. Then you look at 4 cylinder drag cars and you realize that only a fraction of the time and money has been spent developing them. So you're right. Compared to a 300+ mph rail car this car does pale. But you probably won't see these two machines at the same events. You're more likely to find this at a NOPI event where I'm certain a lot of people will be very interested in it. And if you bothered to check his site out you would realize Bob Norwood is more then cabable of making some very fast machines. Some of which require more effort then simply running a 1/4 mile.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 1:56:46 AM   
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Oh and in regards to the car sounding like crap. Have you ever heard a Porsche 935? Not exactly a beautiful sounding machine. They sounded flatulent. It had a twin turbo 3.2 ltr. flat six that trounced all American big blocks during its reign. I still have to laugh when people doubt small displacement engines because all through out automotive history David has beaten Goliath on many occasions.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 11:42:14 AM   
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Meh....someone people just like to rip on ****. If it's something that is bettter then what they have, it must suck.

I think there is a point at where adding displacement without adding pistons is a waste. It wouldn't make any sense to have a 700ci 4 cylinder.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 12:53:38 PM   
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I know. A 700ci 4 cylinder engine sounds absurd but one that's similar in size to a small block V8 doesn't seem all bad. Adding displacement isn't always a great idea anyway. Porsche considered a V16 engine for it's 917 race car but found the smaller displacment flat 12 worked better. The heavier, although more powerful engine, greatly upset the cars handling. It was also a scare tactic used against Ferrari.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 6:45:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 89stanglx

They are using technology on it that is not allowed on the V8"s. It doesnt matter if its a 4 cylinder i just wish that they went with more cubes. I would like to see a 572 CU 4 cylinder, now that would be cool, its just a matter of time. The japs know what they are doing with the 4 bangers its just a matter of time. If the 2012 mustang had a 4 banger with 700cu would you be mad lol. If you cant handle technology go crawl in a bomb shelter cut off from civilization and eat dehydrated food.


Uh... it's a 4.8L. It's got .2L less than your 89 Fox... Actually, if you do the math it only has .1L less displacement.

I would like to see Honda come out with a RWD V8 coupe with a 4.0L V8 and 590 hp. That'd scare the **** out of the domestic auto makers.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 6:54:35 PM   
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how is that a 4cyl if it has twin turbo?

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 7:08:29 PM   
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small turbo = low end grunt
large turbo = top end OOMPH

TTs are a waste on daily driven street four bangers, but it's 4.8Ls. It's huge.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 7:28:54 PM   
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Hey 2000Si. Have you read about VW working on an engine that has both a turbo and a supercharger? The technology sounds pretty cool albeit very complicated. Here's one of the articles. http://www.autoblog.com/entry/1234000180055673/ Just hope it doesn't go the way of the W8. Back in the 80's some Group B rally cars utilized a turbo and a supercharger. Many of the cars were pretty much F1 cars with plastic bodies. Unfortunately they earned the nickname Killer B's due to a rash of deaths. This ultimitley lead to their demise and a limit on the power of cars in the WRC.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 8:18:03 PM   
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VW isn't the first to try that actually... sometime back in the early 70s it was done. The set up is called a twin charger. Really inefficient... but perhaps the VW will perfect it and still be able to justify the extra expense over a single properly sized turbo for it's vehicle.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 9:39:58 PM   
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how is that a 4cyl if it has twin turbo?



Is that a joke? Pleae tell me its a joke...

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 10:06:38 PM   
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I wasn't aware it dated back that far. VW claims they will be able to get better fuel economy and more power out of smaller engines. I hope it works out for them. They put so much effort and money into the W8 only to have it fail. My friend works for VW and he says their cars have a lot of reliability issues. Not to mention they are expensive to fix. I know personally since I've owned 3.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/8/2005 11:57:34 PM   
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how is that a 4cyl if it has twin turbo?

OMG ....that great, so does that mean i have an 8cyl since i have a twin turbo v6?

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/9/2005 2:50:58 PM   
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i guess i can see where you guys are coming from as far as the rail car not being gay. because i saw a peterbuilt at the air show run 375 mph on 3 jet engines. that was cool. its not my style but different nonetheless. im sure if i saw that acura in person i would respect it a whole lot more.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/9/2005 11:15:05 PM   
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i knew u could put twins on a v6 but i didnt think u could a 4cyl.

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RE: 4cyl acura done right - 12/10/2005 1:35:06 AM   
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i knew u could put twins on a v6 but i didnt think u could a 4cyl.


Again, reiterating this... this engine isn't your typical 4cylinder engine...

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