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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/11/2005 7:50:07 PM   
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Well if you watch its very obvious that the cobra owner can't drive, look at how in the first run the cobra starts to pull back then he shifts and looses tons of ground. He was A. shifting to early B. shifting to slow, cobras are hard to drive at first the shifter is kinda clumbsy but after a while you get it down.

My cobra on a hot day was running 13.0@108-109 stock. There was a Mach 1 running 13.9 the same day and the driver *seemed* to feel comfortable he said he usually goes a few .1's quicker but the weather was the factor. With a CAI and CB my car went 12.67@112.5 The mach 1 is a nice car (and can leave hard with the solid rear) but when the BS drops the cobra is quicker and faster in the 1/8 and 1/4.

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/11/2005 8:25:24 PM   
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Well if you watch its very obvious that the cobra owner can't drive, look at how in the first run the cobra starts to pull back then he shifts and looses tons of ground. He was A. shifting to early B. shifting to slow, cobras are hard to drive at first the shifter is kinda clumbsy but after a while you get it down.

My cobra on a hot day was running 13.0@108-109 stock. There was a Mach 1 running 13.9 the same day and the driver *seemed* to feel comfortable he said he usually goes a few .1's quicker but the weather was the factor. With a CAI and CB my car went 12.67@112.5 The mach 1 is a nice car (and can leave hard with the solid rear) but when the BS drops the cobra is quicker and faster in the 1/8 and 1/4.

You are correct. Not to mention the built bottom end and the available hp that Ford kinda left off. With only a few mods a Cobra can be pushing 450-500 hp and that is unreal. I seriously considered a Cobra over my Mach but I have a friend with a Lightning that had trouble getting warranty work done. He said he had to take it to Baton Rouge or New Orleans to have work done. (which is 3-4 hours away for me) They ended up voiding his warranty. He was guilty of modding but I knew I would be doing the same and probably have the same problems. If I lived near a SVT dealership I would have probably still bought one.

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/12/2005 11:24:41 AM   
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What I cant believe is how people start talking **** about any car before they know whats done to it. That Mach could have N20 all over it and you wouldnt have known till he popped the hood. Did he pop the hood? Not that I seen! Here is a link for just you, 65 LT1...

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/12/2005 12:57:12 PM   
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Well if you watch its very obvious that the cobra owner can't drive, look at how in the first run the cobra starts to pull back then he shifts and looses tons of ground. He was A. shifting to early B. shifting to slow, cobras are hard to drive at first the shifter is kinda clumbsy but after a while you get it down.

My cobra on a hot day was running 13.0@108-109 stock. There was a Mach 1 running 13.9 the same day and the driver *seemed* to feel comfortable he said he usually goes a few .1's quicker but the weather was the factor. With a CAI and CB my car went 12.67@112.5 The mach 1 is a nice car (and can leave hard with the solid rear) but when the BS drops the cobra is quicker and faster in the 1/8 and 1/4.

You are correct. Not to mention the built bottom end and the available hp that Ford kinda left off. With only a few mods a Cobra can be pushing 450-500 hp and that is unreal. I seriously considered a Cobra over my Mach but I have a friend with a Lightning that had trouble getting warranty work done. He said he had to take it to Baton Rouge or New Orleans to have work done. (which is 3-4 hours away for me) They ended up voiding his warranty. He was guilty of modding but I knew I would be doing the same and probably have the same problems. If I lived near a SVT dealership I would have probably still bought one.


Hey I had the same problem with my Cobra. The extended warranty company refused to cover me because I had a PCM upgrade to my ECU. Bunch of crap. Happened a week after the dealership put a brand new transmission in the car. Someone from Ford came out and covered it.

I like the Mach and the Cobra. Both are nice looking cars and run well. Have to admit though. Many people would have prefered the Cobra been given a solid rear axle. I've had a number of people tell me I have to be careful launching the car with drag radials.

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/12/2005 7:14:02 PM   
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Hey I had the same problem with my Cobra. The extended warranty company refused to cover me because I had a PCM upgrade to my ECU. Bunch of crap. Happened a week after the dealership put a brand new transmission in the car. Someone from Ford came out and covered it.

I like the Mach and the Cobra. Both are nice looking cars and run well. Have to admit though. Many people would have prefered the Cobra been given a solid rear axle. I've had a number of people tell me I have to be careful launching the car with drag radials.


Ford made it pretty clear with these cars that tampering with the tune or the pulley system would void the warranty, do you expect any different? I don't, I practically shreaded my warranty the day I bought it...

Thank god for the IRS is what I say every time I take a turn or open track it! As for the launches just avoid wheel hop, I have cut 1.70 60ft times no problem and there are several doing better then that. FWIW if you have not put a billetflow girdle on your rearend due it immediately it should have been a factory piece!

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/12/2005 8:09:31 PM   
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Hey I had the same problem with my Cobra. The extended warranty company refused to cover me because I had a PCM upgrade to my ECU. Bunch of crap. Happened a week after the dealership put a brand new transmission in the car. Someone from Ford came out and covered it.

I like the Mach and the Cobra. Both are nice looking cars and run well. Have to admit though. Many people would have prefered the Cobra been given a solid rear axle. I've had a number of people tell me I have to be careful launching the car with drag radials.


Ford made it pretty clear with these cars that tampering with the tune or the pulley system would void the warranty, do you expect any different? I don't, I practically shreaded my warranty the day I bought it...

Thank god for the IRS is what I say every time I take a turn or open track it! As for the launches just avoid wheel hop, I have cut 1.70 60ft times no problem and there are several doing better then that. FWIW if you have not put a billetflow girdle on your rearend due it immediately it should have been a factory piece!


You might have misread my post. Ford covered the repair after the extended warranty-company started playing games and refused to cover my car. Bear in mind this all happened a week after I got my car back. Besides, the PCM, which they specifically sited, would not cause an input shaft to almost snap. The damage to my tranny was done prior to me purchasing the car. I was unaware of any damage prior to me modding it as well. Two of my friends, one a professional driver, could shift it just fine. Another friend and I always seemed to have trouble with it. I haven't had a single problem since the new tranny was put my car.

As far as the IRS goes I love it. I want a car that can handle well and go fast in a straight line. The previous owner set this car up for autocross so it has a lot of suspension and chassis work done to it. So either Ford is being cheap when they decided to put a solid rear axle in the upcoming GT500 or they were catering to the people who were interested in drag racing these cars. Could also be that they managed to get the car to corner over rough surfaces without having the rear end come loose. Which is what initial road-tests have confirmed.

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/12/2005 8:22:14 PM   
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I almost forgot. In order for your warranty to be voided they must first prove that the modification caused the break. Applying a PCM or a pulley, by law, should not void your warranty unless they can prove it caused the break. You can look up the Magnusson Moss Warranty Act on google for more info. There's a thread on Mustang Forums about modifications and their effect on your warranty as well.

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/12/2005 8:36:31 PM   
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I know that is the case but a pulley or tune change can be blammed for alot of things failing. I am getting ready to make two claims on mine though 1. front bumper paint is chipping off (I am pissed about this one) 2. is on the passanger side the window molding has a slight crack/tear in it.

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/12/2005 8:46:16 PM   
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I know that is the case but a pulley or tune change can be blammed for alot of things failing. I am getting ready to make two claims on mine though 1. front bumper paint is chipping off (I am pissed about this one) 2. is on the passanger side the window molding has a slight crack/tear in it.


I agree. Good luck on your claims. The same time my car was in for the tranny it had the window regulator replaced. Window went down then wouldn't come back up. No you can't take the door panel off and manually put the window up. Not without taking a bunch of s*** off. The throttle body was replaced after I started experiencing a sticky throttle pedal as well. Oh and the padding underneath the spoiler is coming out and the CD player jams on a regular basis. A common problem with the Mach 1 stereo from what I've heard. Did I mention how much I love my car?

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/12/2005 9:29:31 PM   
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Ford made it pretty clear with these cars that tampering with the tune or the pulley system would void the warranty, do you expect any different? I don't, I practically shreaded my warranty the day I bought it...

Thank god for the IRS is what I say every time I take a turn or open track it! As for the launches just avoid wheel hop, I have cut 1.70 60ft times no problem and there are several doing better then that. FWIW if you have not put a billetflow girdle on your rearend due it immediately it should have been a factory piece!

Ford didn't make it clear to me! There are alot of Cobra owners that also missed the memo and were given the news of "your warranty is void" It is like Ford was willing to make a 390 hp beast of a car and say "do not drive this car fast and don't even think about changing ****. Some people, like yourself, could afford to replace the engine if you blew it but I couldn't. Well I could afford it but I wouldn't have liked it. The 03-04 Cobra is an awesome car and I am not trying to take anything away from it. I just stated why I didn't purchase one.

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/12/2005 9:44:06 PM   
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Oh, I agree, I was not bashing you at all. I looked hard at a mach 1 but I know if I bought it, it would have had a blower on it in a month or two adn then the warranty on it would be void for sure. Don't get me wrong I don't look forward to putting a motor in my car but if the day comes I can/will do what I need to do (the good new is all you really have to do is bore and put good pistons in since everything else is strong).

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/13/2005 12:39:49 PM   
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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/13/2005 12:48:23 PM   
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Ford made it pretty clear with these cars that tampering with the tune or the pulley system would void the warranty, do you expect any different? I don't, I practically shreaded my warranty the day I bought it...

Thank god for the IRS is what I say every time I take a turn or open track it! As for the launches just avoid wheel hop, I have cut 1.70 60ft times no problem and there are several doing better then that. FWIW if you have not put a billetflow girdle on your rearend due it immediately it should have been a factory piece!

Ford didn't make it clear to me! There are alot of Cobra owners that also missed the memo and were given the news of "your warranty is void" It is like Ford was willing to make a 390 hp beast of a car and say "do not drive this car fast and don't even think about changing ****. Some people, like yourself, could afford to replace the engine if you blew it but I couldn't. Well I could afford it but I wouldn't have liked it. The 03-04 Cobra is an awesome car and I am not trying to take anything away from it. I just stated why I didn't purchase one.


I feel for you in that matter. Money wise it's expensive and is enough to keep many people away. However many people don't know or are not willing to fight the dealer/manufacturer. I had a problem with Subaru in which I found out they do not cover any gear damage what so ever. Not so much as a chipped gear. This was on a car that had very little mileage and was never abused. You could look at the car and see this. The mechanic even said so. After speaking to an attorney and filing a lemon law claim I finally got my money back. It's a long hard fight but in many ways it's worth it. Funny, even if I lost I'd still have the last laugh. Subaru is owned by GM. LOL!!

My advice is if you are going to modify your car, have it done by a reputable place and make sure everything is documented. All service related work as well. Unless you are doing the work yourself.

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/13/2005 1:33:01 PM   
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what's up with the virus??

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/13/2005 3:04:06 PM   
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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/14/2005 12:52:25 AM   
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what's up with the virus??

Some dude (JDaniel?) posted a link on the first page that contained a trojan horse virus. Which, as you can see here, is a no-no. That was pretty stupid.

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RE: 03mach vs 03 cobra - 12/15/2005 3:45:53 PM   
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ALL QUOTES FROM THIS THREAD REFERRING TO THE "VIRUS PROBLEM".

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thanks for that link JDan, it's a good thing that when I clicked it, my virus protection stuff came up...
You had to have known other people were gonna click that link just to see what you meant, that isn't nice to have your mustang buddies getting viruses on their computers




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Yeah I got the same deal ricepatrol... I feel that people who post up virus links on a public forum deserve a good ol' banning.



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yeah gotta get up earlier. I think thats what i said...
yet to click that link. Thats pretty desperate, jdaniel your so frustrated you give people
a hot link on a forum, its like a christmas present or something, everyone is gunna click it



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JD just so ya know, that link give your computer a trojan virus. And that sort of thing can get ya banned off a board (or arrested).



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dude delete that link it is full of viruses. my norton set off alarms like you wouldn't believe when i clicked it and ihad to run spybot to clean my computer after it




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