RE: Me vs. Civic + Civic vs. Vette
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RE: Me vs. Civic + Civic vs. Vette - 12/4/2005 4:07:02 PM
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Yeah Ive never said all civics are slow and no one here with 1/2 a brain would say " that all imports are slow and a waste of money"
I didn't say you said that, I told you that it's been said. No real point to this one - it's all a roundabout debate.
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Is there a rebuttal? What have you paid for your car? Whats your 1/4mile et? Youve said that you want an all around perfomace car handling, speed, acceleration and braking.
KBB tells me your car stock mint is worth 13,000ish so maybe you could get one for 10k, I think youve had yours a while so you probably paid more but 10000$ but a fox with that much money poured in to it could easily be better all around than your SI
I didn't make the rebuttal, because I've made it so many times. I paid enough for my car, and I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT 1/4 MILE ET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once again, you've misquoted me in saying I want handling, speed, acceleration and braking.
I want more handling over speed and acceleration. Only reason I'm SC'ing the car is to give it a little more umph to play with on the highway. 10k in a fox would be cool, BUT I am not getting an 11 year old car just to go fast in a straight line. A fox is not a practical car to have, especially if it's my only car. I do not want and do not need two vehicles.
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you know what we get weather in california too and yet I have somehow learned to control my car, do I have to be more conservative? yeah, oh well.
Sunny and 85 all the time with the occasional rain storm holds no candle to 3 inches of snow covering an ice slicked road...
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see If we Mustang guys have misconceptions about your civic being slow you try to teach us that there not, but you stick to your MISCONCEPTION that mustangs are unreliable.
Go read the problems in the Tech sections, it won't take you long to find one. It's hard to find a non-user swap-related problem with a Civic on any honda board. I will give you this; they do occur, but at a much less frequent rate than the random problems that come up on this board.
Comparing problems between the two cars shows me that Civics that haven't been swapped and been taken care of have less even small driveability problems as well taken care of Mustangs on this board.
Why are we discussing this? You're just sitting here trying to tell me the virtues of a Mustang just like everyone else has 10383908908 times over the past two years I've been here. Only difference between you and them is you call them idiots, and at least semi understand my point of view.
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RE: Me vs. Civic + Civic vs. Vette - 12/4/2005 8:11:23 PM
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wayleft
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I didn't make the rebuttal, because I've made it so many times. I paid enough for my car, and I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT 1/4 MILE ET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then quit talking about 12sec Civics!!!!!
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Once again, you've misquoted me in saying I want handling, speed, acceleration and braking.
I want more handling over speed and acceleration. Only reason I'm SC'ing the car is to give it a little more umph to play with on the highway.
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LMAO!
Once I'm done with my suspension... an IRS equipped Cobra won't touch me in the twisties.
okay youve got to make up your mind because to beat a cobra in the twisties youll need speed, acceleration, braking, and most important handling. I'll tell you honestly it seems a lot of cobra drivers don't use their cars to potential, but the car can carve corners just fine. Tires and maybe some suspension work and you'll have a hard time keeping up let alone beating one hands down. Tho try it and film it and post it if you want.
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you know what we get weather in california too and yet I have somehow learned to control my car, do I have to be more conservative? yeah, oh well.
Sunny and 85 all the time with the occasional rain storm holds no candle to 3 inches of snow covering an ice slicked road...
I live in the central valley, mild winters lowest temp maybe 25 usually winter highs of 38-43 rarely do we get snow, summers well over 100 as high as 110 0r 112 are not uncommon. But it only takes a 1 1/2 -3 hour drive to get to mountains with all the snow you could ever want, we do get decent rainfall all winter
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Comparing problems between the two cars shows me that Civics that haven't been swapped and been taken care of have less even small driveability problems as well taken care of Mustangs on this board.
What??? My 'stang is 10 years old and has been perfect since I got it.
The mustangs owned by my family were all reliable most were totalled in accidents Mom sold the cobrajet when money got really tight. I know people say Ford has reliabilty issues but I, and I know a lot of people who, have never seen it.
Just because Ive never seen it doesnt mean it doesnt happen 12sec civics for example.
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Why are we discussing this? You're just sitting here trying to tell me the virtues of a Mustang just like everyone else has 10383908908 times over the past two years I've been here.
I addressed this a few posts ago
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Banter and arguments are fine, I love arguing nothing better except driving mustangs and women, put those two (cars and women) together and thats a great weekend (with lots of arguing).
honestly you say things to which I have a reply, and since you never replied to my points earlier let me repeat them
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ORIGINAL: 2000Si
I have never said at ANY time that a Mustang is inferior to a Civc. What the hell post are you reading wayleft? How about you try reading my posts before you start trying to ramble on putting words in my mouth?
tight; every ford my family has ever owned has been a pile of crap. In fact every American car my family has ever owned has been a pile of crap.
The 88 dodge, crap. Even in 89.
the 91 Lumina. Crap. blew a headgasket while we were in Indy one year, out of nowhere... oh yeah this was shortly after we replaced the entire engine with one that only had 5k miles on it.
My moms Ford F150, actually I give Ford that one. It was a great truck until she got Tboned. My moms Blazer, lots of non-specific problems. My sisters Cavalier... ok Fine, I give you guys that one... she ruined that car.
I'm sorry 2000si I guess I inferred form your comments about fords lack of reliability(from your point of view) that you meant your Civic was reliable and thus in at least one aspect superior to the Ford Mustang. Putting words in your mouth, rookie mistake, again my humble apologies.
but if I were to use only quotes from the above post copied exactly as you typed them then lets see what we can find out about Civics:
quote 1: I have never said at ANY time that a Mustang is inferior to a Civc.
quote 2: every ford my family has ever owned has been a pile of crap.
does everyone see what Im getting at Ford makes mustangs, fords are crap, Ford Mustangs are crap. follow?
now at no time has 2000si said Civic are superior to mustangs(crap) So 2000si has never said at anytime that a civic is superior to crap.
I agree.
now there maybe a flaw in my logic, 2000si may have never owned a ford mustangin which case he didnt specifically call mustangs crap see he said "every ford my family has ever owned"
well how about this your civic is no better than crap if youve owned a 'stang, and youre opinion isnt worth a crap if you havent.
BTW in your post the only ford you mentioned was apparently a "great truck" your family seems to have bad luck with chevy and dodge. So stop with the bitter diatribe everytime a stang and a honda race because you are after all on the mustang forum
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RE: Me vs. Civic + Civic vs. Vette - 12/4/2005 11:49:38 PM
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Your points are useless. I'm not going to address inane points.
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Then quit talking about 12sec Civics!!!!!
I made that point as to what I'm doing with my car. I still enjoy watching V8s getting whooped by built Civics. It's all relative to the tuner, if I wanted to go fast in a straight line I would have gotten something with a larger engine, RWD and torque. I didn't, and I don't need or want to. Why do I feel I'm explaining MY wants and needs more than sticking to the actual topic?
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okay youve got to make up your mind because to beat a cobra in the twisties youll need speed, acceleration, braking, and most important handling. I'll tell you honestly it seems a lot of cobra drivers don't use their cars to potential, but the car can carve corners just fine. Tires and maybe some suspension work and you'll have a hard time keeping up let alone beating one hands down. Tho try it and film it and post it if you want.
Speed isn't the only key in autocrossing, in fact, autocrossing usually entails tight corners with very short straightaways. A supercharger on a civic with a tight final, good suspension, tires and a trained driver will be plenty to fend off an overweight Cobra with IRS. That being said, before you say that the massive power in the Cobra is going to help it... just don't bother. I think you should go spectate a local autocross to see what I'm talking about.
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What??? My 'stang is 10 years old and has been perfect since I got it.
The mustangs owned by my family were all reliable most were totalled in accidents Mom sold the cobrajet when money got really tight. I know people say Ford has reliabilty issues but I, and I know a lot of people who, have never seen it.
That's great. You've had good luck with a well taken care of vehicle. That isn't always the case. Come to my city and you'll see Taurus' broken down all over the place. All the time. I used to be like you when I had my Ford - I used to defend Ford's reliability standpoint, but everytime we drove past a Taurus, Focus or V6 mustang on the side of teh road it made defending them really hard to do. Just because you've never paid attention to what car it was you passed on the side of the road, doesn't mean it doesn't happen more often than not. This isn't a stab at Ford, this isn't me hating Ford. This is my personal experience from my profession, I drive around quite a bit through the day. They're there, more often than not. People who have never seen it are either lying, don't pay attention to the side of the road, have really good mechanics in their city, or flat out refuse to admit to it.
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I live in the central valley, mild winters lowest temp maybe 25 usually winter highs of 38-43 rarely do we get snow, summers well over 100 as high as 110 0r 112 are not uncommon. But it only takes a 1 1/2 -3 hour drive to get to mountains with all the snow you could ever want, we do get decent rainfall all winter
This has no relevance. You've rarely driven in the snow. You're lucky. I however drove on ice covered roads last night on my way back from the bowling alley. It's more of a common occurance here. I didn't enjoy driving in it, and I would have been even more paranoid on the ice in a RWD V8 powered coupe with these narrow roads.
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RE: Me vs. Civic + Civic vs. Vette - 12/5/2005 2:21:51 AM
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Jaggezz
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Jesus christ, I never thought I would have spawned a 9 page thread, half of which is you guys fighting.
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RE: Me vs. Civic + Civic vs. Vette - 12/5/2005 6:49:40 AM
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I'm not fighting. 
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RE: Me vs. Civic + Civic vs. Vette - 12/5/2005 5:27:45 PM
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tightdogal
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omg for the love of cheese...can yall please end this?!?! its like yall are repeating the same thing over again....mustangs are cool...civics are cool....ricers are not cool......fast civics are cool....fast mustangs are cool.....rwd is cool for racing...fwd is cool for driving in snow, rain.......we know this, the arguements were entertaining at first but now can yall please just shake hands and end it?
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