RE: Me vs. Civic + Civic vs. Vette - 11/29/2005 12:35:54 AM
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i dunno what they had before I was born, but for the most part they've always had Chevy's. Every single one of them has been in the shop for something other than regular maintenance.
Unlike my brother's and my Si. I'm not trying to put anything down, but I'm just calling it like I see it. I've never seen or been around a Ford/Chevy/Chrysler that's gone 71,400 miles without breaking down once.
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hmm well my 2000 has 130,000 and has never been in the shop....besides that one time i went to jiffy lube for an oil change tho (just cuz i got lazy) but i aint doin that shat again....
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RE: Me vs. Civic + Civic vs. Vette - 11/29/2005 12:40:39 AM
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I dunno what you guys do that magically makes your cars better. But when you replace a 5 year old engine with only 50-60k miles on it with a 1 year old engine with 5k miles on it, and then the new engine blows a headgasket, or have your entire family in your van and it blows a coolant line doing 70 down the highway. Something isn't right.
PS: you have 130k on a 5 year old car? Stop driving so damn much.
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i know its sad...i got it at 91K miles last august and have put so many on it the past year...i commute an hour to work and bak mon-fri and soon ill be goin to school 2 hours away, so when i come home imma be putting 150 miles on my car on one trip...hopefully i can buy a 99-01 gt the end of next year...but thats a ways to go
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Alrighty. I guess you have a hard time admitting to things. You're trying to prove your point, but after being on this board for well over two years, oh and owning a Ford myself for two years... I'm much obliged to calling you the biggest liar I've ever seen sign up here.
I don't have anything to admit to, you want to shove the almighty Civic down our throats, some people don't like them, get over it. Head over to the Civic forum for the love fest.
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Out of the 14 Fords you've owned, not one has never broken down?
Did I say they never had issues? Nope, you said towed, I've never had one towed, EVER. Also not a single one ever broke down, this is fact, you don't have to believe it.
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Bull. Sheit. Don't be afraid to admit that Ford has a problem with all around reliability, it's the truth. Despite what your pride is telling you, it's not going to hurt to admit it.
I have never had issues with reliability in any Ford I have ever owned, this isn't that hard. Ford isn't that bad. Why hang around a forum where you can't stand the product?
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Yes I'm reading what I'm posting. But the difference here is I'm also reading what other people are writing on this forum. You on the other hand are blind to the fact that even your fellow Ford enthusiasts can and have admitted to Ford's lack of build quality in their products.
I haven't had any issues with their build quality, I ran my first 5.0 Mustang like I hated it at the track, it took everything I could dish out. My Lincoln's have been fine, my Ford Escape has been fine, my Sprt Trac was fine and all of my Mustang's have been fine. They had issues once in awhile but what car doesn't if you have it long enough. My last car was an Acura, it rattled worse than any Ford I've ever owned but it was a good car.
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That's the point, you see. Putting a 10 second Civic on the streets is much more complicated, and takes someone who knows what they're doing to do it. Any backwoods toothless redneck with their V8 can do it with some extra change. What makes you so special?
What the hell are you talking about? I don't give a good crap how hard it is getting a Civic to run 10's, get it through your skull not everybody is interested in building those cars, which is why we are here, not in the Rice is Nice forum. I never said I was special, just a gear head and no not any redneck can make a car go fast, you haven't gotten that Civic into the 10's yet, so theres proof.
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Ah... still having trouble admitting things, are we? Swallow your pride and tell me you've always beat everything with your Mustang. Go on, but I still won't believe you. I guess the fact that a 13 second Civic toasted you at some point in the past while you were driving one of your 14 Fords really put a damper on your pride. Was it tough?
I guess you simply don't get it, point out where I've stated I've beaten everything I've raced... The chance of running into a Civic around here that runs even 14's is remote, 13's, well, it hasn't happend but I'm sure they are out there, but 13's isn't good enough anyway maybe to beat your Civic it is? I never raced 6 of those Fords and the 8 I did race were much faster than 13's, but I'm not hating at the Civic forum now am I, they can stay there all happy. I'm here to discuss Ford not Honda. When and if a Civic ever even manages to keep up, I'll post it here so you can feel all warm and fuzzy, ok?
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No, it's not the best I have. But it's simply the truth. Reasoning behind that is all this crap about "buying a real car to go fast in"
I've yet to read any truth from you, just hatred of Mustang's and a complex towards Civic's.
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whoopty doo! Everybody and their grandfathers have gone fast with V8s of today and yesteryear. Do you really think that you're special in your dinky bad V8? Do you really think so? Honestly. Ford can't even build fast cars from the factory without some sort of forced induction. Whoopty! A 30 thousand dollar overweight 01 Cobra with and dinky 281 pushing a WHOPPING 300 hp! holy ****! and it only runs high 13s at best? what the ****? You really think you're car is so much better than any of the Civic's out there who've put their cars in the 12s? 13s?
So we come to the meat of it, finally. You have this all out hard on for the Civic in the Ford forum, I never said I was special or that 300hp was special or that my car was all that, that's you saying that. Grandfathers building V8's has nothing to do with this, your obvious hatred of Mustang's in a forum not geared toward rice but geared to one specific car. Keep everybodies relatives out of it, this has to do with your obvious hatred. I don't have to like Civic's, I don't have to be nice about them or respect them even, this is my right. You love rice, goody, then love them, nobody is telling you not too. As to not being able to go fast without forced induction, don't buy it then, that's another conversation, this is a Ford forum, not a Honda forum, if I wanted to discuss the merits of racing a Honda I would go there and dicuss it, here we discuss things like the Mustang which you obviously hate judging by your commentary which means you're here not to discuss Mustangs but to rag on them. Unless you're paragraph is all lies? You've been here 2 years, what the heck for if not to make sure the poor little Civic doesn't get dissed. Get a life.
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Good. Because I like laughing at those tards too. But that isn't the discussion. This thread originated with the thoughts of the specified car racing him of having some sort of Forced induction. If that's rice, then you have some serious hatred issues against a car company you've never owned, driven, or hell probably never have even sat in.
So we come full circle. Actually my sister has a Civic just like yours, she wishes it wasn't such a slow dog but overall she likes the car, it gets her to work and Jewel with no fuss no muss and is invisible to cops so it does have a purpose.
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So yes, I'm calling you lame. and you really need to grow up.
You first, when you act all grown up then you can tell others until then, I think not.
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I've personally seen many Civics that would beat your reliability challenged dinky penis air pump into submission without forced induction.
Ok, cool and they're what again? Civic's right? I bet there is a Yugo out there that can do the same, it doesn't make me want one. You have obvious issues guy.
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and you're defending Mustangs? haha. I've owned people in debates like this who know more about their cars than even you do.
I'm not defending Mustang's at all, I'm laughing at Civic's and watching you act like an ass because I'm supposed to fear the mighty Civic because we big 'ol dumb rednecks can only build V8's and real men build 4 poppers. Heck before you know it I might have to add a coffee can and a wing to my Stang to go real fast yapper, dats what it will take to compete wit the big bad Civic's!
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I'm surprised you're not driving a Corvette, because you're a real prick. Would daddy have beat you had you not gotten a Domestic? Is that where this Civic/Import hostility is coming from? Comon, admit something for a change. Living a lie will catch up to you sooner or later.
Wow, so now Vette drivers are pricks? You have issues big time and my dad has nothing to do with this. How low do you have to go to make yourself look more stupid here than you already have?
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Remember, this is 2005. The best of the best are coming off the assembly line. 200 horsepower Civics from the factory will be here in less than a month. These cars WILL be running in the high 14s, completely stock. Meanwhile we have stock S2000
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I have never said at ANY time that a Mustang is inferior to a Civc. What the hell post are you reading wayleft? How about you try reading my posts before you start trying to ramble on putting words in my mouth?
tight; every ford my family has ever owned has been a pile of crap. In fact every American car my family has ever owned has been a pile of crap.
The 88 dodge, crap. Even in 89.
the 91 Lumina. Crap. blew a headgasket while we were in Indy one year, out of nowhere... oh yeah this was shortly after we replaced the entire engine with one that only had 5k miles on it.
My moms Ford F150, actually I give Ford that one. It was a great truck until she got Tboned. My moms Blazer, lots of non-specific problems. My sisters Cavalier... ok Fine, I give you guys that one... she ruined that car.
I'm sorry 2000si I guess I inferred form your comments about fords lack of reliability(from your point of view) that you meant your Civic was reliable and thus in at least one aspect superior to the Ford Mustang. Putting words in your mouth, rookie mistake, again my humble apologies.
but if I were to use only quotes from the above post copied exactly as you typed them then lets see what we can find out about Civics:
quote 1: I have never said at ANY time that a Mustang is inferior to a Civc.
quote 2: every ford my family has ever owned has been a pile of crap.
does everyone see what Im getting at Ford makes mustangs, fords are crap, Ford Mustangs are crap. follow?
now at no time has 2000si said Civic are superior to mustangs(crap) So 2000si has never said at anytime that a civic is superior to crap. I agree. now there maybe a flaw in my logic, 2000si may have never owned a ford mustangin which case he didnt specifically call mustangs crap see he said "every ford my family has ever owned"
well how about this your civic is no better than crap if youve owned a 'stang, and youre opinion isnt worth a crap if you havent.
BTW in your post the only ford you mentioned was apparently a "great truck" your family seems to have bad luck with chevy and dodge. So stop with the bitter diatribe everytime a stang and a honda race because you are after all on the mustang forum
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2000si youre right my 'stang is overweight and slow and ugly and inferior to Civics. I should trade it in for a civic so I can have those easy 13's and maybe if I try really hard I can have one of those really common 10 sec. Civics I see all the time flying past my slow a$$ mustang.
hey wait arent civics fwd? you know I like RWD... Oh my car has a V8 which I love the feel of... what civics have 4 cyl engines????? is that why they sound so different from my stang. Oh and my stang its a 'vert great for autumn days and nights... its 12 years old and has started evertime I've turned the key has yet to give me a problem(knock on wood.).. oh and Ive never lost to a Honda. EVER. Can I yeah sure and I'm sure someday I will, maybe, I've lost to lots of stangs, Camaros, a few vettes, a wrx sti, and a 50s mercury( black with the flames man that was a BADA$$ car)
I love to race it win or lose I enjoy driving as fast as I can. And if ever a civic beats me i'll give respect to the owner who made an econobox faster than my car. However having driven a few other peoples civics harder than was really needed I can tell you I'll never own one. No in fact if I can i'll never own anything fwd. Seriously to anyone who wants a Honda for performance good luck have fun I hope you love your car, if you make it quick enough to beat a stang or a vette or an enzo good on you, I wouldn't want it.
and I believe the reason jeggz lost was he hasn't worked out his shifting yet, once he does his 5.0 will smoke civics all over.
Amen brother, excellent points.
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I will say though, I think the only reason I lost to that Civic was due to my shifting. He wasn't pulling very hard, and if I had gone to 3rd instead of 4th, I probably would have walked him. Either way, I know I could have owned him from a dig, but I wasn't that fortunate.
I tried for a chance at another Civic today but he wouldn't bite. Probably because he had a fart can, tailights and a wing.
yea its weird the civics that are all riced out will rev at me next to a light, but they wont race at all....im like ...uhh ok....
This was one of the mexican ones (dunno if you've ever seen those). You know, the ones with the fart can, the ****ty flame decals that look like they're straight from hot wheels, the retarded pep boys wings and the lettering that usually says "Civic Sport" or something as gay on the windshield. He wouldn't do ****.
I will say though, I think the only reason I lost to that Civic was due to my shifting. He wasn't pulling very hard, and if I had gone to 3rd instead of 4th, I probably would have walked him. Either way, I know I could have owned him from a dig, but I wasn't that fortunate.
I tried for a chance at another Civic today but he wouldn't bite. Probably because he had a fart can, tailights and a wing.
You got it, soon you'll be getting it even more my friend, good luck to you.
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I will say though, I think the only reason I lost to that Civic was due to my shifting. He wasn't pulling very hard, and if I had gone to 3rd instead of 4th, I probably would have walked him. Either way, I know I could have owned him from a dig, but I wasn't that fortunate.
I tried for a chance at another Civic today but he wouldn't bite. Probably because he had a fart can, tailights and a wing.
You got it, soon you'll be getting it even more my friend, good luck to you.
Thanks alot. I hope I can get this shifting down and then hopefully put some 4 cylinders in their places.
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thats the wrong mentality to have. Ok Im sorry its not my place to tell you your mentality is wrong, in fact that was rude but... Your car is game for a lot more than 4cyl imports. You can kill the ricers all you want maybe 1 in 1000 can even hang wth you but it won't give you the satisfaction that another 'stang, or Camaro, or any of the other fast cars will. Trust me. when youve learned your car inside out a civic or S10 on anything else thats not fast won't be worth your time or effort.
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thats the wrong mentality to have. Ok Im sorry its not my place to tell you your mentality is wrong, in fact that was rude but... Your car is game for a lot more than 4cyl imports. You can kill the ricers all you want maybe 1 in 1000 can even hang wth you but it won't give you the satisfaction that another 'stang, or Camaro, or any of the other fast cars will. Trust me. when youve learned your car inside out a civic or S10 on anything else thats not fast won't be worth your time or effort.
Yea. I know. I'll race just about anything, but right now I'm starting small with the imports. Maybe I'll get luck and find one with a decent amount of horsepower.
I can't wait to get some work done to her and take her out for a spin with some Camaros and some other Mustangs. You're right, that's where it's really at.
But I'm not trying to get stomped by another Cobra again.
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At the end of the day, after spending a small amount on mods I can run 13s and still get 25+ mpg.
Ummm define a "small amount" on mods. Youd need a supercharger on high boost to run anywhere NEAR the 13's. And last i checked, youll be in a few thousand (not including a clutch, fuel, etc upgrades) to buy a blower or turbo kit for your SI.
I was pulling 13.5-13.6s allday on 60series street tires allmotor with bolt ons.
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At the end of the day, after spending a small amount on mods I can run 13s and still get 25+ mpg.
Ummm define a "small amount" on mods. Youd need a supercharger on high boost to run anywhere NEAR the 13's. And last i checked, youll be in a few thousand (not including a clutch, fuel, etc upgrades) to buy a blower or turbo kit for your SI.
I was pulling 13.5-13.6s allday on 60series street tires allmotor with bolt ons.
BS! no honda civic could ever break the 13.9XX barrier. let alone 13.5!!!
At the end of the day, after spending a small amount on mods I can run 13s and still get 25+ mpg.
Ummm define a "small amount" on mods. Youd need a supercharger on high boost to run anywhere NEAR the 13's. And last i checked, youll be in a few thousand (not including a clutch, fuel, etc upgrades) to buy a blower or turbo kit for your SI.
I was pulling 13.5-13.6s allday on 60series street tires allmotor with bolt ons.
Impressive, I had a buddy that got his Mazda GLC into the 14.9's back in 1985, we were like WOOHOO! Times have changed, anytime someone can get his car reliably fast and not looking like it's fast means you can have loads of fun!
My sister has the same model Civic you have minus any mods, I like how you've kept the car stealthed, people would never know what they were in for.
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HOLLY ****ING EH! WTF is up with the full blow essays in every other post.... Im so not reading all that ****.. Ill just say this... I can give 2 sh*ts less what everyone thinks of civic, if they ever drive one or what the hell ever.. all I say is line up beside mine, cuz I dont give a damn about any other civic besides mine lol
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Very good points, heck last summer I saw a Chrysler minivan run a 10.6@130, never have I heard a place get so quiet so fast. You could of heard a pin drop, I wouldn't have believed it had I not been there.
I have respect for anyone that can compete and does so without being a jagg and God knows my car has a long way to go but if I ever lose to a Civic or a Yugo that person will get the respect he deserves.
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