We're expecting people will pay around $55-$60k for the coupe when it first hits the lot. Word is 475 HP and around $45k MSRP fully equiped. We already have a waiting list with deposits. Depending on production, I doubt they will ever sell for less than sticker even after the initial pop. Being authorized by Carroll Shelby makes a huge difference in the car's value to a buyer.
Posts: 992
Joined: 9/9/2004 From: Amsterdam, New York Status: offline
this is an old thread...but im gunna posto n it cuz it bugs me. The Gt500 is pushign 475 hp... yes which is less than the z06 and the viper.. but u could have 2 of these gt500's for just a lil over the price of one z06, and whoever sed the z06 is cheaper.....where are u from? lol cuz that isnt true ne where ive ever heard. If u can name one car u can get for 40 grand with 475 and the performance that this car is going to have... name it. Its simple... yes its alot of money, but bang for the buck...hands down its the best buy
_____________________________
1996 Mustang GT 5 speed manual transmission BBK cold air intake SLP loudmouth 1 catback system Steeda UDP's 3.73's
stopped by a local dealership today to take a peak at the 2006's and compared to what i paid for my 05 gt (27.5K) the same 06 gt is 31K ? The thing is , most dealers can get unlimited amounts of 6 cylinders ...Most of the dealers in my area are lucky to get between 8 and 12 GT's ...The Shelby pricewill definitley be bumped up ...However ,if Ford was to come out with a Boss , I would be interested to see what the price would be especially if the hp was in the 375 neighdorhood .
Yours is one of the more believable posts I've seen on this topic. I do have a few questions...
I've heard that the MSRP for the basic GT500 coupe will be $38,500 - is this correct?
I've been told that the cars will be sold via the SVT network (not all Ford dealers will be able to sell the cars directly from Ford) with an initial allotment of 2 cars per SVT dealer - is this true?
If the cars are limited to the SVT dealers, does this mean the special SVT leave deal is transferable and I can swap my 2004 for a Shelby? (In fact, the wording in the lease leads me to believe this should place me at the front of any "line" and the price of the lease will be based upon MSRP.)
If the cars are sold only through the SVT dealers, and yet not badged as SVT's, is this Ford's cute way of getting around the terms of these lease contracts? (In case anyone is listening to this out there, expect a lawsuit over this if that's the plan).
What is the MSRP for the convertibles?
Thanks for the solid post. Looks like good info.
tripleblack
quote:
ORIGINAL: ratnacage
We're expecting people will pay around $55-$60k for the coupe when it first hits the lot. Word is 475 HP and around $45k MSRP fully equiped. We already have a waiting list with deposits. Depending on production, I doubt they will ever sell for less than sticker even after the initial pop. Being authorized by Carroll Shelby makes a huge difference in the car's value to a buyer.
What the MSRP is for the convertible is anyone's guess - probably the standard $5-$6000 more than the coupe. HOWEVER, as I am fond of telling my customers, the MSRP (on any vehicle) is purely a work of fiction. A car is worth only what someone is willing pay for it. That is why no one [knowingly] pays sticker for an Expedition, but may pay well above sticker for a Ford GT. In the case of the Shelby's, enough people are certain to step up and willingly pay significantly more than whatever MSRP says that it will be out of reach for many of us.
As for your lease contract, I've not heard of that provision - I'd have to read it - maybe post the relavent text? Also, is it a Ford contract or is it something your dealer wrote up? As for the reference to being able to contract a Shelby at MSRP, it is highly unlikely that Ford would bind a dealer to MSRP on a limited production car, and even more unlikely that a dealer would go along with it. Even when "employee pricing" was around last year, the dealers were under no obligation to participate (though they'd have been foolish not to). Furthermore, the key or basis of any lease is the residual, not MSRP. While the residual references MSRP, what you pay for it is entirely a different matter. For example, if a car has a residual of 51%, then the residual is 51% of MSRP. But, the capitalized cost (purchase price) is the price you pay and may be higher or lower than MSRP. Your payment is then based on the difference between this cost and the residual. So, if the residual for a Shelby is say 60% and the MSRP is $45k, then the residual is $27k. If the dealer contracts you at $55k, then your payment is based on $28k ($55k - $27k). That is how a lease works.
I don't know the particulars of who gets and who does not get Shelby's - all I know is we will get some, but we are an SVT dealer. There's been plenty of conspiracy theories floating around regarding the SVT badging or non-badging of these cars. I doubt there is any nefarious design to this and that it likely has more to do accounting than anything else - maybe Carroll has something to do with it?
Posts: 345
Joined: 4/6/2005 From: Born in MO - Raised in IL - Reside in NC! Status: offline
quote:
ORIGINAL: ratnacageAs for your lease contract, I've not heard of that provision - I'd have to read it - maybe post the relavent text? Also, is it a Ford contract or is it something your dealer wrote up? As for the reference to being able to contract a Shelby at MSRP, it is highly unlikely that Ford would bind a dealer to MSRP on a limited production car, and even more unlikely that a dealer would go along with it. Even when "employee pricing" was around last year, the dealers were under no obligation to participate (though they'd have been foolish not to). Furthermore, the key or basis of any lease is the residual, not MSRP. While the residual references MSRP, what you pay for it is entirely a different matter. For example, if a car has a residual of 51%, then the residual is 51% of MSRP. But, the capitalized cost (purchase price) is the price you pay and may be higher or lower than MSRP. Your payment is then based on the difference between this cost and the residual. So, if the residual for a Shelby is say 60% and the MSRP is $45k, then the residual is $27k. If the dealer contracts you at $55k, then your payment is based on $28k ($55k - $27k). That is how a lease works.
Are you saying these Shelby Cobras can be leased? "C"
uwti has one beautiful car. I was wondering if anyone on this forum had a 67 GT500, and that one is amazing. He posted on this thread so this isn't a completelyyyy random post.
uwti has one beautiful car. I was wondering if anyone on this forum had a 67 GT500, and that one is amazing. He posted on this thread so this isn't a completelyyyy random post.
I see 06 GT's hard top of course go for 24,900 in my neck of the woods.I would buy a GT inatall a F-1 procharger wich will boost the horse to 450 + and save yourself tons of cash on the car and INSURANCE.I've heard roumers as much as $70,000 for the shelby just cause it will ber a collectors car.4,000 for the super charger you have yourself a 450 hp mustang GT for around 30,000.
I see 06 GT's hard top of course go for 24,900 in my neck of the woods.I would buy a GT inatall a F-1 procharger wich will boost the horse to 450 + and save yourself tons of cash on the car and INSURANCE.I've heard roumers as much as $70,000 for the shelby just cause it will ber a collectors car.4,000 for the super charger you have yourself a 450 hp mustang GT for around 30,000.
Well, now that's really missing the point isn't it? By the same analysis you could bolt on enough horsepower and handling to whip the Ford GT for a mere fraction of it's $166k price tag, but it still wouldn't be a GT. I mean even a new Mustang GT would probably spank an old GT500, but which is worth more? Which would one would you rather have in your driveway? I could go on, but I think my point speaks for itself.
A bit off topic (again), I know, but I had to show you guys our showroom!!
Thumbnail Image
either your dealership just got in 4 Ford GT's, or you have had them for a while and are asking such an outrageous mark-up that people dont want to buy from you... Makes me wonder what Dodge is going to do when the Challenger comes out. If they dont try to stick it to the public, I may buy one since I cant afford a GT500 with the mark-up.
either your dealership just got in 4 Ford GT's, or you have had them for a while and are asking such an outrageous mark-up that people dont want to buy from you... Makes me wonder what Dodge is going to do when the Challenger comes out. If they dont try to stick it to the public, I may buy one since I cant afford a GT500 with the mark-up.
Hello Ford....are you listening?????
lol
that pisses me off like nobodys buisness
y does ford havta rip EVERYONE off ALL of the time
_____________________________
PERFORMANCE Steeda CAI BBK Throttle body BBK Plenum Ford 4.10s Flowmaster 40s Steeda UDP Eibach Pro-Kit Bilstein Shocks/Struts Diablo Tune
I agree with that you're saying... I want a car that's gonna stand out, so I don't want the cool stuff stripped off what we were introduced to in the Cobra's prototype in the very beginning. So Murph, do you still want the Shelby or not? "C"
Not sure yet C. I'll probably wait until I learn more.
When you get more details, will you PLEASE keep me posted? I'm currently "in-line" and "on-the-list" at three different dealerships, but I fear none of them are gonna favorably pan-out for me. "C"
Well I got the call from my dealer today. He faxed me the options sheet and told me to make my selections. There are only a few options, which you can mostly read about in any of the Stang mags out there. The important part..........No info on price yet from Ford. My rep wasn't happy about not being able to give me a figure but it works in my favor because he told me that without a price I am not bound to buy the car. So I basically get to equip it how I want and get the first right to refusal once the price figures come in etc. I'll keep you all posted.
PS has anyone seen the pics of the rear of the car. Ford sold out on the slim, 3rd brake light integrated into the spoiler and used the standard trunk mount 3rd brake light thereby pushing the SHELBY letters over to the left side of the trunk instead of centered so boldly like they were on the prototype. Who the heck makes these stupid decisions???!! Ford really irks me when they "go cheap" like that without any regard for asthetics. Alright enough venting, I will keep you all posted.
either your dealership just got in 4 Ford GT's, or you have had them for a while and are asking such an outrageous mark-up that people dont want to buy from you... Makes me wonder what Dodge is going to do when the Challenger comes out. If they dont try to stick it to the public, I may buy one since I cant afford a GT500 with the mark-up.
Hello Ford....are you listening?????
The situation with us is actually quite the opposite of what you're thinking (I don't blame you for thinking that way though). Not a single GT (other than our actual allotment of three) hits our lot until we have payment in the bank. We've sold twelve GT's since December 2005 - only one was used, the rest were new.
Posts: 345
Joined: 4/6/2005 From: Born in MO - Raised in IL - Reside in NC! Status: offline
quote:
ORIGINAL: murph Well I got the call from my dealer today. He faxed me the options sheet and told me to make my selections. There are only a few options, which you can mostly read about in any of the Stang mags out there. The important part..........No info on price yet from Ford. My rep wasn't happy about not being able to give me a figure but it works in my favor because he told me that without a price I am not bound to buy the car. So I basically get to equip it how I want and get the first right to refusal once the price figures come in etc. I'll keep you all posted.
PS has anyone seen the pics of the rear of the car. Ford sold out on the slim, 3rd brake light integrated into the spoiler and used the standard trunk mount 3rd brake light thereby pushing the SHELBY letters over to the left side of the trunk instead of centered so boldly like they were on the prototype. Who the heck makes these stupid decisions???!! Ford really irks me when they "go cheap" like that without any regard for asthetics. Alright enough venting, I will keep you all posted.
Thanks for all the new info, Murph! Interesting, VERY interesting... I can't wait to see all the other little things that get "canned"! "C"