After seeing the outragous mark up of Mustang prices...such as $32,000 for a conv. V6[sm=bs.gif]...I'm afraid that even though they are going to be below $40,000(MSRP) dealers are going to bump them up to about $50,000. Anyone else feel this way????
Maybe its just me but even if it does have Shelby's name on it it should NOT cost more than a Vette...whatever happened to the "affordable ponycar" ...$40 grand for a conv. GT pisses me off... Maybe I'm just getting ahead of myself...

I recall reading in a magazine that the GT500 will have a m.s.r.p for around 45,000..But ya probley because the limited supply of them dealers will boost the prise up[:'(]

i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper

Yeah the mark up will suck. The new ones are so freakin popular around were I live it crazy.

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i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper

or a c6 vette ;)

From what I read, the MSRP of the coupe is going to be under $40,000! If that's the case, unnder $40,000 for a 450 HP is pretty good but like someone else said, the mark up and limited availability will put them out of the "ordinary" person's price range.

i would just wait till all the 'must have it now' people are done. and buy one a year or two later

For cryin' out loud, are the spec sheets out yet on this thing?! [sm=hiya.gif]"C"

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i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper


Me either. Look at the 65-70 Shelby's. Just Mustangs with stripes and some engine work that are worth nothing more than any other 65-70 Mustang these days...

:eek:

I heard that the GT500 will be rated at 485BHP. The base price will be 38995. The mark up will suck but what that is over the car will be a great buy.

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I heard that the GT500 will be rated at 485BHP. The base price will be 38995. The mark up will suck but what that is over the car will be a great buy.


...Agrees! [sm=happy046.gif]"C"

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i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper


Me either. Look at the 65-70 Shelby's. Just Mustangs with stripes and some engine work that are worth nothing more than any other 65-70 Mustang these days...

:eek:



wrong. shelby's now a days are worth WAY more than regular 65-70 mustangs. you wana buy a really nice 67 gt500, better have at least 150k.

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i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper


I think ya need to read up some more on the new car.

Lightyears ahead handling, bigger brakes, competely different motor (sohc 4.6 vs a 5.4 DOHC, are you kidding?), supercharged with a decent twin screw from the factory, forged bottom end, 6 speed trans, the list goes on and on.

Look, according to Road and Track its going to have about 475 HP. That is good, but really, for the money, you can probably do better. the sticker will be close to $40-$45K, and for that, buy a standard GT and spend money on the mods you want. The GT 500 is not going to be the fastest car on the street with that power -- the 505 HP ZO6 is lighter and easily does 11.7s. i think it will take 550 in a Mustang, with its weight, to beat that, but you CAN get that if you buy a GT and select your aftermarket mods with some smarts.

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Look, according to Road and Track its going to have about 475 HP. That is good, but really, for the money, you can probably do better. the sticker will be close to $40-$45K, and for that, buy a standard GT and spend money on the mods you want. The GT 500 is not going to be the fastest car on the street with that power -- the 505 HP ZO6 is lighter and easily does 11.7s. i think it will take 550 in a Mustang, with its weight, to beat that, but you CAN get that if you buy a GT and select your aftermarket mods with some smarts.


first of all, it's under rated. it'll make 450-500 at the wheels stock. a pulley swap and exhaust and it will make 600 to the wheels. to get a regular GT to do that, you'd have to build the motor first, because it cant handle boost like that. second you'd have to put a T-56 in, all new suspension and brakes just to TRY to match its performance. but even then, it wont be worth any more than a stock GT. the shelby will hold its value well, perform out of this world, and be a fairly rare car.

Personally I think, if I can get my hands on one, I will own one as soon as they come out. That is if I can get my hands on one.;)

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i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper


I think ya need to read up some more on the new car.

Lightyears ahead handling, bigger brakes, competely different motor (sohc 4.6 vs a 5.4 DOHC, are you kidding?), supercharged with a decent twin screw from the factory, forged bottom end, 6 speed trans, the list goes on and on.





You are right on everything but it is roots type blower and not a twin screw.

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i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper


I think ya need to read up some more on the new car.

Lightyears ahead handling, bigger brakes, competely different motor (sohc 4.6 vs a 5.4 DOHC, are you kidding?), supercharged with a decent twin screw from the factory, forged bottom end, 6 speed trans, the list goes on and on.





You are right on everything but it is roots type blower and not a twin screw.


um no he's not... because the way i read it he said he would rather have a DODGE viper. big difference;) you guys are making huge assumptions on power, who knows what that block will take to pop... but it will be expensive and hold its value that's for sure

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i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper


I think ya need to read up some more on the new car.

Lightyears ahead handling, bigger brakes, competely different motor (sohc 4.6 vs a 5.4 DOHC, are you kidding?), supercharged with a decent twin screw from the factory, forged bottom end, 6 speed trans, the list goes on and on.





You are right on everything but it is roots type blower and not a twin screw.


um no he's not... because the way i read it he said he would rather have a DODGE viper. big difference;) you guys are making huge assumptions on power, who knows what that block will take to pop... but it will be expensive and hold its value that's for sure


The other guy said it was just another mustang. He said that is was more than a regular mustang and said everything above. The GT500 will be about as quick as a new Viper anyways. The new viper coupes run high 11s to 12.0. The GT500 will probably only be a little bit slower.

I'm not sure how you figure it would be as fast as the present Viper. R&T had it on the cover this month and had info dir4ect from Ford, and Shelby himself. Based on that, I would expect about 12.2 for a stock GT500 coupe, 12.4 for the vert:
Power: The recent cover article in R&T gave it as 475 HP. The Viper has 505.
Weight: the same article quotes "est 4000" for the convertible believeable, partly because the 5.4 with the SC is heavier than a 4.6),
but assume R&T is 5% over actual, then thats 3850 for the convertible and maybe 3700-3650 for the coupe. the viper is around 3400-3500, not light, but noticeably lighter than the GT500.
Rear tires: the Viper has 345s, R&T lists the planned tires on the GT500 as 285s. I would assume someone would have sense to fit at least 295s, but its needs something more than that.

12.2 is a fair guess for the car. I didn't say it would be as fast, I said it would be close. A viper will run high 11s so you figure once the markup is gone the GT500 will be half the price of the viper and at worse case only a half a second slower.

It will be a bargain, and with the blower and all easy to modify for more power. But of course, its about a year or more from production. By then I guess the Viper will have 550-564 HP. they have to do something. The ZO6 is faster (and cheaper). What they need to do is put it on a diet and lose 300-350 lbs, but that is REALLYU expensive to do. Upping compression, porting it a bit, that's a lot cheaper, and of course Hennessey has proven you can get a ot more power out of that motor. I'm guessing 565 within a year, 550 won't be enough. .

At least the gt500 has back seats! and a z06 is closer to $81K with the dealer mark up! that's close to double the price!

I guess that dollar for dollar it will be hard to beat the performance of the new GT500 even with the dealer markup. $40,000+ for a Mustang that will keep up with z06's and vipers and absolutely spank them with a little mod(pulley, exhaust, etc) isn't really that bad. I guess I just never thought I'd see the day when an 05 GT with nothing more than stripes would cost as much as an 03 Cobra when they first came out and now the GT500 is going to be even further out of the average joe's price range.

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i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper


Me either. Look at the 65-70 Shelby's. Just Mustangs with stripes and some engine work that are worth nothing more than any other 65-70 Mustang these days...

:eek:



wrong. shelby's now a days are worth WAY more than regular 65-70 mustangs. you wana buy a really nice 67 gt500, better have at least 150k.


Dude, I was being facetious... that is the reason for the :eek:.

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At least the gt500 has back seats! and a z06 is closer to $81K with the dealer mark up! that's close to double the price!



Yeah, things to consider. I bought my Porsche Carrera over several other choices I was looking at just because I wanted to have a back seat, even if no one will ever ride back there.

The new ZO6 is a different car entirely than the GT500 (so is the Vioper for that matter) pure sports car, no back seat and all.

The GT500 will be a great car, can't wait to see one.

Yeah the GT500 is not in the same class as a Viper or a vette. I would love to have one though. Maybe after the markup goes away I will consider getting one.

Aren't they all spoken for? Like..a huge waiting list of people already in line with the money

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Aren't they all spoken for? Like..a huge waiting list of people already in line with the money


Yeah, I was thinking of getting like a 2008 or 2009 model year. I will never get ahold of a 2007. I don't want to pay 60k for a Mustang anyway. I will pay the 40k.

Hopefully they wil fix the damn body style by then.

I love the way it looks but I love the way my '05 GT looks.

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Yeah, I was thinking of getting like a 2008 or 2009 model year. I don't want to pay 60k for a Mustang anyway. I will pay the 40k.


Remember, Ford has stated that they WILL build a limited edition 2008 commemorative Bullitt edition in 2008, on the 40th anniversary of the Steve Mcqueen movie (still the greatest car chase ever caught on film). That might be a car to try to get instead.

This was reported in the Motor Trend earlier this year, the issue that had a charger and a green mustang on the cover - turns out MT had that Mustang custom painted for the cover. Ford doesn't make a dark green car and won't until '08.

In the article they reported that Ford told them the dark (essentially, british racing) green color will not be avialble 'til 08and that the model will have special features and have a bit more power than the standard GT when it comes out. That might be a very good car to get and it will probably cost less than a GT500 (I predict all will go for much more than list-like the Ford GTs).

the guy at my dealer said 45+ about 10k markup, my dad has beed on the list for a bit now, they are getting 2 he said...basically they are giving them to the top 3 bidders from what i got out of our conversation.

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Remember, Ford has stated that they WILL build a limited edition 2008 commemorative Bullitt edition in 2008, on the 40th anniversary of the Steve Mcqueen movie (still the greatest car chase ever caught on film). That might be a car to try to get instead.

This was reported in the Motor Trend earlier this year, the issue that had a charger and a green mustang on the cover - turns out MT had that Mustang custom painted for the cover. Ford doesn't make a dark green car and won't until '08.

In the article they reported that Ford told them the dark (essentially, british racing) green color will not be avialble 'til 08and that the model will have special features and have a bit more power than the standard GT when it comes out. That might be a very good car to get and it will probably cost less than a GT500 (I predict all will go for much more than list-like the Ford GTs).


Hum... I love green! [sm=bangbang.gif]Guess that might give me something to think about. "C"

That ought to be a pretty nice car. I may have to look at that . . . I like BRG.

talking of colours....colour chart (http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/05/07/index.htm)

sorry if this has already been posted

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talking of colours....colour chart (http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/05/07/index.htm)

sorry if this has already been posted


<---had not seen these pics before...THANKS! :)

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I'm not sure how you figure it would be as fast as the present Viper. R&T had it on the cover this month and had info dir4ect from Ford, and Shelby himself. Based on that, I would expect about 12.2 for a stock GT500 coupe, 12.4 for the vert:
Power: The recent cover article in R&T gave it as 475 HP. The Viper has 505.
Weight: the same article quotes "est 4000" for the convertible believeable, partly because the 5.4 with the SC is heavier than a 4.6),
but assume R&T is 5% over actual, then thats 3850 for the convertible and maybe 3700-3650 for the coupe. the viper is around 3400-3500, not light, but noticeably lighter than the GT500.
Rear tires: the Viper has 345s, R&T lists the planned tires on the GT500 as 285s. I would assume someone would have sense to fit at least 295s, but its needs something more than that.


The most recent issue of 5.0M&SF got to test the GT500, SVT actually told them the car wieghed in at about 3,850 pounds with nothing in it. It was said to be about 300 pounds heavier than the current GT. With ten gallons of gas and a person it would be over 4,100 pounds or so. That is simply retarded. I would never want to own a 4,000+ pound performance car. I know it comes with the ability to make great power, but the wieght will always be a huge hinderance.

Yeah, for some reason alot of the special Mustang models seen really heavy. I drove a 2003 Cobra (the one with the SC) and was really surprised at how heavy it felt. Good power though.

I know they new Bugatti Vehron 16.4 is over 4000 lbs, but you know, I sort of figure a 16 cylinder quad-turbo engine has a reason to be heavy, and the 1000 HP (okay, actually 997 in the US version) sort of makes it okay (0-60 in 2.5 sec!). But even there, test drivers write about how how it feels. Its hard to understand why Ford doesn't put its special Mustangs on a diet (or all of them).

I think performance cars are best at around 3000 lbs - heavy enough to be strong and have a big engine: I drove a new Lotus recently, fast, but it FEELS flimsy and light because it is, on the otherhand it gets Corvette acceleratyion out of a toyota 4, its so light.

Thus, I've stuck with my Prosche 993 rather than a newer model because it weighs just slightly less than 3000 lbs so it does already on 237 RWHP, and my Mustang weighs in at right on 2900 lbs, and both feels about right.

Three thousand pounds is a good weight for a car, but with all the modern safety beams and everything, its hard to put much into a car and keep in under that. Your '68 has none of that stuff, and yet uses no modern aluminum or weight saving laminate metal sheet, etc., and yet it still weighs less than 3k, point being all the modern requirements probably add 300+ lbs. I personnaly feel 3200 lbs is a reasonable limit today.

And I agree the Mustang Cobra was heavy. Ford obviously can build light cars (Ford GT), but Cobra had that iron block -- don't know what that adds in a Ford, but in a LS1-6, iron weighs 90 lbs more, and then the engine itself is not light to begin with, and then the IRS. Still 3800 lbs dry seems about 200 more than I would expect.

I will probably start a big argument (remember everyone, I'm a GM guy at heart so don't beat me up for this!) but I suspect the SC'd Cobra "390 HP" engine actually puts out more HP than the 400 HP Chevy LS2 in the C6: not a lot more but maybe 10-20 RWHP. The Cobra was just too fast for only 390 HP. But again it is a heavy engine, with the big heads it used, and the SC, and the iron block, it probably weighed more than 200 pounds more than an LS-2 -- that is an amazingly light engine for a 6-liter V8.

here's the vert
http://www.stangnet.com/2005-Mustang/FORD-SHELBY-GT500-CONVERTIBLE.html

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I'm not sure how you figure it would be as fast as the present Viper. R&T had it on the cover this month and had info dir4ect from Ford, and Shelby himself. Based on that, I would expect about 12.2 for a stock GT500 coupe, 12.4 for the vert:
Power: The recent cover article in R&T gave it as 475 HP. The Viper has 505.
Weight: the same article quotes "est 4000" for the convertible believeable, partly because the 5.4 with the SC is heavier than a 4.6),
but assume R&T is 5% over actual, then thats 3850 for the convertible and maybe 3700-3650 for the coupe. the viper is around 3400-3500, not light, but noticeably lighter than the GT500.
Rear tires: the Viper has 345s, R&T lists the planned tires on the GT500 as 285s. I would assume someone would have sense to fit at least 295s, but its needs something more than that.


....
Alright guys hopefully I can shed some light and some opinions on the GT 500. I found a dealerhsip in central FL back in March of '05 and put down a $5000.00 deposit to be # 1 on the list there for probably 1 of 3 GT 500's allotted per dealership (some will get more based on size of dealership). As a side note some dealers won't even/didn't even take deposits telling me straight up that the "GM and his buddies would get that car". The rep where my deposit is emailed me in late Nov to tell me the order date would probably be late Dec - Jan. He told me that they had a bunch of dealers had a meeting and Tampa/Orlando area dealers (my dealer is in a much smaller town, luckily) said they are looking to get $15-20k over sticker. My rep assured me no more than $10k.

I was stoked about this car due to all the hype and never owning a new car before. I was actually getting my hands on a Shelby I thought. Well I also own '98 Cobra which is near mint and I bought it one year used with 1900 miles on it letting the first owner take the hit. Talk about exclusivity, you SVT guys know that in '98 they only made 4005 coupes and 1000 converts. Much more rare. The productionof GT 500's is expected at 10,000 units! Then I read 5.0 Mustang and Super Fords Mag and they said it best: "..this car could just as easily and a lot less confusingly be named the '07 Mustang Cobra, because that's what it is, the next Mustang Cobra". They probably didn't mean it to be condescending but I took it as such and as I read the article I realized why.

1) The pics of the GT 500 that we've all seen are prototypes just like the bad ass pics of the '05 mustang from the auto show. They already started cutting out the toys with what most of you stated, the removal of the originally intended Lysholm twin-screw SC (supposedly due to Lysholm not being able to meet productin demands) and replaced it with the M1.22 Eaton. Pics you have seen of the blower on the Prototype are of the Lysholm.

2) They cut out the 19" wheels and replaced them with 18"s.

3) Spy pics I have seen show the GT 500 with the same rear bumper as the GT, and not the GT 500 specific one with the air diffuser.

I am sure there will be other changes as well. I agree with all of you about the power output and don't dispute this care will be a performer. But I also hear what you guys are saying that it would be more cost effective to hop up a GT. My arguement to all that was "but it's a Shelby" but I am not so convinced anymore. If this was a one year production I would be thrilled and eat the premium. But I fear this car will just get lost in the Mustang shuffle. Ford says that $50,000.00 is too much for a Mustang that's why they are making it affordable.

To some of you I may sound like a spoiled brat, but I am single and ready to buy a brand new car for the first time since '99. I wanted exclusivity not another Mustang that I am going to pay $10,00 over sticker for on only to have it get confused with a run of the mill V6. I wanted a car that would get noticed and not just by us gear heads As a staunch Ford buyer and on my third 'Stang I am starting to look toward the 911 Carrera or a BMW 645. My buddy says that now I am just ready to step up to higher end cars and that's why I grumble about the Shelby. Maybe he is right.

Bash me or agree, I want to hear what you guys think!


'98 Cobra, White/Tan, 25k, bolts ons

I agree with that you're saying... I want a car that's gonna stand out, so I don't want the cool stuff stripped off what we were introduced to in the Cobra's prototype in the very beginning. So Murph, do you still want the Shelby or not? [&:]"C"

totaly agree with all that Murph has said, this is why im now looking at the possibility of importing a saleen s281 sc back to england, although the GT500 would be a rareity over here, i personaly think dollar wise i will get more for my money with a Saleen

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I agree with that your saying... I want a car that's gonna stand out, so I don't want the cool stuff stripped off what we were introduced to in the Cobra's prototype in the very beginning. So Murph, do you still want the Shelby or not? [&:]"C"



Not sure yet C. I'll probably wait until I learn more.

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I agree with that you're saying... I want a car that's gonna stand out, so I don't want the cool stuff stripped off what we were introduced to in the Cobra's prototype in the very beginning. So Murph, do you still want the Shelby or not? [&:]"C"



Not sure yet C. I'll probably wait until I learn more.



When you get more details, will you PLEASE keep me posted? I'm currently "in-line" and "on-the-list" at three different dealerships, but I fear none of them are gonna favorably pan-out for me. :("C"

No prob "C" I will keep you and thed others here posted. Furthermore on this I hope I can get it without the rocker stripe. Am I the only one who thinks it is ridiculously high up on the door? If it was much lower like on the bottom of the side skirt it would maybe look okay.

I have found an importer here in England who is advertising the GT500 for sale but only in red! I am awaiting a reply from him with regards to an 'on the road' price, i'm assuming he has his name down on a list somewhere and is sat with fingers crossed hoping to get his hands on one maybe two!

how do the saleens compare to this? power and pricing?

I am SERIOUSLY considering this 07 GT500 or getting a Saleen perhaps

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how do the saleens compare to this? power and pricing?

I am SERIOUSLY considering this 07 GT500 or getting a Saleen perhaps

GT500 - approx 475bhp using 5.4 V8 block price $40k+ (no price set but could be upto $60k with greedy dealers)

Saleen S281sc - 425bhp using 4,6 V8 block, price $52k-$60k depending on extras

from reading as much as possible about the two as im looking to buy the saleen also, the saleen has higher spec brakes,suspension, interior etc
(waits for backlash on my comments!)

I WISH THEY WOULD ONLY MARK THEM UP TO $50K!!! I HAVE CONTACTED DEAERS IN 5 DIFFERENT STATES ANHD IT LOOKS LIKE THE PRICES COULD BE AS MUCH AS $80K OR MORE!!!!! THE RUMOR NOW IS EVERY DEALER, NOT JUST SVT DEALERS WILL GET ONE. THEY ARE GOING TO AUCTION THEM THIS WON'T BE AS BAD AS THE FORD GT BUT CLOSE.

FORD, THEMSELVES ARE CONTRBUTING TO THE HYPE AS THEY ARE GOING TO AUCTION THE RIGHTS TO THE FIRST GT500 THIS WEEK AT BARRETT JACKSON. LOOK FOR THE PIRCE PAISD THERE TO SET THE MARKET

NO WONDER FORD IS ABOUT TO GO BANKRUPT!!! FORD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE CAR FOR THE MASSES AND THE MUSTANG WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN AFFORDABLE MUSCLE CAR WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED IN 1964. I HAVE A 66 AND A 94 COBRA PACE CAR NOW AND HAVE HA MANY OTHER FORDS AND MUSTANGS OVER THE YEARS BUT AFTER THIS, I AM DONE WITH FORD. wHO ARE THEY KIDDING. THE CAR IS HARDLY WOTH THE $40K ON THE STICKER. THEY ARE GOING TO SELL THEM FOR MORE MONEY THAN A CORVETTE!!!!

I AM GOING TO WRITE A STRONG LETTER TO BILL FORD. NOT THAT IT WILL DO ANYTHING BUT THIS EX LOYAL MUSTANG DRIVER IS GOING TO BUY A CORVETTE AND POCKET THE CHANGE!!!!

NO WONDER FORD IS ABOUT TO GO BANKRUPT!!!

Well ..... The General is actually in much worse shape then Ford has been in for awhile.


[/quote] FORD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE CAR FOR THE MASSES AND THE MUSTANG WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN AFFORDABLE MUSCLE CAR WHEN IT WAS ANNOUNCED IN 1964.[/quote]

The Ford Mustang GT "IS" a very affordable muscle car ( List a car with the 05's HP and great handeling for under $30,000.)


[/quote] I HAVE A 66 AND A 94 COBRA PACE CAR NOW AND HAVE HA MANY OTHER FORDS AND MUSTANGS OVER THE YEARS BUT AFTER THIS, I AM DONE WITH FORD. wHO ARE THEY KIDDING. THE CAR IS HARDLY WOTH THE $40K ON THE STICKER. THEY ARE GOING TO SELL THEM FOR MORE MONEY THAN A CORVETTE!!!! [/quote]

If you think that a car pushing close to 500 HP with a sticker price of "ONLY" $40,000 is hardley worth the money, well then my friend, I would have to say you know very little about cars and further more, a vette goes for over $80,000, Im not really sure where you are getting you figures from, but, I have a feeling you really just dont know what you are talking about.

Now, I am not really excitied that i will have to pay a mark up on the GT500, but I am looking at this as an investment. My opinion is you can not go wrong on this car and I hope that not to many people will agree with me on that. However, for any of you that are car collectors on this board, I know you feel the same way, for the rest of you that are flip floping, you just dont understand the magnitude of this car and frankly will be happier with the GT.

firefox





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Well for what it's worth last year at the EAA oshkosh airshow ( I work there as an EAA volunteer(15 years) I met and spoke to Carroll Shelby and Edsall Ford while standing in front of the new Shelby Mustang. Both Carroll and Edsall autgraphed my specail FORD EAA ball cap with two P-51 Mustangs on the side of the bill and the FORD emblem on the front of the ball cap. Carroll and Edsall both said the new Shelby Mustang wil stay at or under $40, 000 MSRP.
FORD is one of the major sponsors of the EAA airshow. Also on dsiplay was the "Shelby Concept car", and a FORD GT 40.
Also a 2005 Ford Mustang. Ford also had a number of it's vehicles on the airport being used as VIP cars and courtesy cars.

Well firefox, I watched that Shelby Mustang race an airplane on the runway at the EAA Oshkosh airshow last summer.
It comes off the line in a MOST IMPRESSIVE FASHION, and ACCELERATES like GREASED LIGHTNING!!!
SEEING IS BELIEVING!!!
And that deep throaty roar from the exhaust and a huge smoke trail behind the car, and it definetly was burned rubber!
Not bad for $40,000 and 500 horsepower!

Speaking of Shelby Mustangs,
This happens to be my favorite hat, signed by Edsall Ford and carroll Shelby at oshkosh Wisconsin Air Show this past sumnmer.
The two P51's on the bill denote the second year Ford Motor Company has sponsored the EAA air show.
I don't know if it will make my new 2006 Mustang go faster, but it sure will look cool setting on the dashboard!

local://upfiles/28277/B09FD92039DD4B7F8215862C0C3394E8.jpg

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Well for what it's worth last year at the EAA oshkosh airshow ( I work there as an EAA volunteer(15 years) I met and spoke to Carroll Shelby and Edsall Ford while standing in front of the new Shelby Mustang. Both Carroll and Edsall autgraphed my specail FORD EAA ball cap with two P-51 Mustangs on the side of the bill and the FORD emblem on the front of the ball cap. Carroll and Edsall both said the new Shelby Mustang wil stay at or under $40, 000 MSRP.
FORD is one of the major sponsors of the EAA airshow. Also on dsiplay was the "Shelby Concept car", and a FORD GT 40.
Also a 2005 Ford Mustang. Ford also had a number of it's vehicles on the airport being used as VIP cars and courtesy cars.


Damn, I sure hope you're right! [sm=hail.gif]"C"

The price for a GT500 Shelby Cobra SVT 2007 is MSRP 39,995 according to Car and Drive magazine, which has been pretty accurate on their pricing

Well, that sounds good to me! [sm=smiley14.gif]"C"

ORIGINAL: MuscleOwnzRice

The price for a GT500 Shelby Cobra SVT 2007 is MSRP 39,995 according to Car and Drive magazine, which has been pretty accurate on their pricing



Wishful thinking!! MSRP $39,995 yes....asking price??? totally different. I really wanted one too but now I'm not so sure....who knows what will happen when the public can actually get their hands on one. Instead of the GT500 I'm starting to think a fully loaded GT with hefty mods might be the way to go.[sm=smiley29.gif] It's all so confusing at this point: with a lot of speculation. Any suggestions? And I don't think a Saleen is in my price range at this point either!

ORIGINAL: Lee Willis

Look, according to Road and Track its going to have about 475 HP. That is good, but really, for the money, you can probably do better. the sticker will be close to $40-$45K, and for that, buy a standard GT and spend money on the mods you want. The GT 500 is not going to be the fastest car on the street with that power -- the 505 HP ZO6 is lighter and easily does 11.7s. i think it will take 550 in a Mustang, with its weight, to beat that, but you CAN get that if you buy a GT and select your aftermarket mods with some smarts.


but just wait a few months after its debut, there will be a kenne-belle blown gt500 eating z06s for thousands less! you could make a 700 hp gt500 and still have money left over to buy a 2006 v6 mustang before you equal the price of the Z06

We're expecting people will pay around $55-$60k for the coupe when it first hits the lot. Word is 475 HP and around $45k MSRP fully equiped. We already have a waiting list with deposits. Depending on production, I doubt they will ever sell for less than sticker even after the initial pop. Being authorized by Carroll Shelby makes a huge difference in the car's value to a buyer.

this is an old thread...but im gunna posto n it cuz it bugs me. The Gt500 is pushign 475 hp... yes which is less than the z06 and the viper.. but u could have 2 of these gt500's for just a lil over the price of one z06, and whoever sed the z06 is cheaper.....where are u from? lol cuz that isnt true ne where ive ever heard. If u can name one car u can get for 40 grand with 475 and the performance that this car is going to have... name it. Its simple... yes its alot of money, but bang for the buck...hands down its the best buy

stopped by a local dealership today to take a peak at the 2006's and compared to what i paid for my 05 gt (27.5K) the same 06 gt is 31K ? The thing is , most dealers can get unlimited amounts of 6 cylinders ...Most of the dealers in my area are lucky to get between 8 and 12 GT's ...The Shelby pricewill definitley be bumped up ...However ,if Ford was to come out with a Boss , I would be interested to see what the price would be especially if the hp was in the 375 neighdorhood .

Yours is one of the more believable posts I've seen on this topic. I do have a few questions...

I've heard that the MSRP for the basic GT500 coupe will be $38,500 - is this correct?

I've been told that the cars will be sold via the SVT network (not all Ford dealers will be able to sell the cars directly from Ford) with an initial allotment of 2 cars per SVT dealer - is this true?

If the cars are limited to the SVT dealers, does this mean the special SVT leave deal is transferable and I can swap my 2004 for a Shelby? (In fact, the wording in the lease leads me to believe this should place me at the front of any "line" and the price of the lease will be based upon MSRP.)

If the cars are sold only through the SVT dealers, and yet not badged as SVT's, is this Ford's cute way of getting around the terms of these lease contracts? (In case anyone is listening to this out there, expect a lawsuit over this if that's the plan).

What is the MSRP for the convertibles?

Thanks for the solid post. Looks like good info.

tripleblack


ORIGINAL: ratnacage

We're expecting people will pay around $55-$60k for the coupe when it first hits the lot. Word is 475 HP and around $45k MSRP fully equiped. We already have a waiting list with deposits. Depending on production, I doubt they will ever sell for less than sticker even after the initial pop. Being authorized by Carroll Shelby makes a huge difference in the car's value to a buyer.

What the MSRP is for the convertible is anyone's guess - probably the standard $5-$6000 more than the coupe. HOWEVER, as I am fond of telling my customers, the MSRP (on any vehicle) is purely a work of fiction. A car is worth only what someone is willing pay for it. That is why no one [knowingly] pays sticker for an Expedition, but may pay well above sticker for a Ford GT. In the case of the Shelby's, enough people are certain to step up and willingly pay significantly more than whatever MSRP says that it will be out of reach for many of us.

As for your lease contract, I've not heard of that provision - I'd have to read it - maybe post the relavent text? Also, is it a Ford contract or is it something your dealer wrote up? As for the reference to being able to contract a Shelby at MSRP, it is highly unlikely that Ford would bind a dealer to MSRP on a limited production car, and even more unlikely that a dealer would go along with it. Even when "employee pricing" was around last year, the dealers were under no obligation to participate (though they'd have been foolish not to). Furthermore, the key or basis of any lease is the residual, not MSRP. While the residual references MSRP, what you pay for it is entirely a different matter. For example, if a car has a residual of 51%, then the residual is 51% of MSRP. But, the capitalized cost (purchase price) is the price you pay and may be higher or lower than MSRP. Your payment is then based on the difference between this cost and the residual. So, if the residual for a Shelby is say 60% and the MSRP is $45k, then the residual is $27k. If the dealer contracts you at $55k, then your payment is based on $28k ($55k - $27k). That is how a lease works.

I don't know the particulars of who gets and who does not get Shelby's - all I know is we will get some, but we are an SVT dealer. There's been plenty of conspiracy theories floating around regarding the SVT badging or non-badging of these cars. I doubt there is any nefarious design to this and that it likely has more to do accounting than anything else - maybe Carroll has something to do with it?

ORIGINAL: ratnacageAs for your lease contract, I've not heard of that provision - I'd have to read it - maybe post the relavent text? Also, is it a Ford contract or is it something your dealer wrote up? As for the reference to being able to contract a Shelby at MSRP, it is highly unlikely that Ford would bind a dealer to MSRP on a limited production car, and even more unlikely that a dealer would go along with it. Even when "employee pricing" was around last year, the dealers were under no obligation to participate (though they'd have been foolish not to). Furthermore, the key or basis of any lease is the residual, not MSRP. While the residual references MSRP, what you pay for it is entirely a different matter. For example, if a car has a residual of 51%, then the residual is 51% of MSRP. But, the capitalized cost (purchase price) is the price you pay and may be higher or lower than MSRP. Your payment is then based on the difference between this cost and the residual. So, if the residual for a Shelby is say 60% and the MSRP is $45k, then the residual is $27k. If the dealer contracts you at $55k, then your payment is based on $28k ($55k - $27k). That is how a lease works.

Are you saying these Shelby Cobras can be leased? [sm=happy046.gif]"C"

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Well, I don't see why not. However, the residual I used is purely speculative. No numbers have been released by Ford that I'm aware of.

uwti has one beautiful car. I was wondering if anyone on this forum had a 67 GT500, and that one is amazing. He posted on this thread so this isn't a completelyyyy random post.

ORIGINAL: DarkShadowGT03

uwti has one beautiful car. I was wondering if anyone on this forum had a 67 GT500, and that one is amazing. He posted on this thread so this isn't a completelyyyy random post.


yes it is....

Only slightly off topic, I have a customer that wants to trade his 67 GT500 (green, white interior, automatic) even-steven for a Ford GT.

A bit off topic (again), I know, but I had to show you guys our showroom!!

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ORIGINAL: ratnacage

A bit off topic (again), I know, but I had to show you guys our showroom!!

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Holy mother of God, what a photo!!! [sm=Flahssssss.gif]"C"

I see 06 GT's hard top of course go for 24,900 in my neck of the woods.I would buy a GT inatall a F-1 procharger wich will boost the horse to 450 + and save yourself tons of cash on the car and INSURANCE.I've heard roumers as much as $70,000 for the shelby just cause it will ber a collectors car.4,000 for the super charger you have yourself a 450 hp mustang GT for around 30,000.

my dream
A bit off topic (again), I know, but I had to show you guys our showroom!!


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ORIGINAL: fastmofo

I see 06 GT's hard top of course go for 24,900 in my neck of the woods.I would buy a GT inatall a F-1 procharger wich will boost the horse to 450 + and save yourself tons of cash on the car and INSURANCE.I've heard roumers as much as $70,000 for the shelby just cause it will ber a collectors car.4,000 for the super charger you have yourself a 450 hp mustang GT for around 30,000.


Well, now that's really missing the point isn't it? By the same analysis you could bolt on enough horsepower and handling to whip the Ford GT for a mere fraction of it's $166k price tag, but it still wouldn't be a GT. I mean even a new Mustang GT would probably spank an old GT500, but which is worth more? Which would one would you rather have in your driveway? I could go on, but I think my point speaks for itself.

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A bit off topic (again), I know, but I had to show you guys our showroom!!

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either your dealership just got in 4 Ford GT's, or you have had them for a while and are asking such an outrageous mark-up that people dont want to buy from you... Makes me wonder what Dodge is going to do when the Challenger comes out. If they dont try to stick it to the public, I may buy one since I cant afford a GT500 with the mark-up.

Hello Ford....are you listening?????

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either your dealership just got in 4 Ford GT's, or you have had them for a while and are asking such an outrageous mark-up that people dont want to buy from you... Makes me wonder what Dodge is going to do when the Challenger comes out. If they dont try to stick it to the public, I may buy one since I cant afford a GT500 with the mark-up.

Hello Ford....are you listening?????



lol

that pisses me off like nobodys buisness

y does ford havta rip EVERYONE off ALL of the time

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ORIGINAL: murph


ORIGINAL: GBPackerFan

I agree with that you're saying... I want a car that's gonna stand out, so I don't want the cool stuff stripped off what we were introduced to in the Cobra's prototype in the very beginning. So Murph, do you still want the Shelby or not? [&:]"C"



Not sure yet C. I'll probably wait until I learn more.



When you get more details, will you PLEASE keep me posted? I'm currently "in-line" and "on-the-list" at three different dealerships, but I fear none of them are gonna favorably pan-out for me. :("C"

Well I got the call from my dealer today. He faxed me the options sheet and told me to make my selections. There are only a few options, which you can mostly read about in any of the Stang mags out there. The important part..........No info on price yet from Ford. My rep wasn't happy about not being able to give me a figure but it works in my favor because he told me that without a price I am not bound to buy the car. So I basically get to equip it how I want and get the first right to refusal once the price figures come in etc. I'll keep you all posted.

PS has anyone seen the pics of the rear of the car. Ford sold out on the slim, 3rd brake light integrated into the spoiler and used the standard trunk mount 3rd brake light thereby pushing the SHELBY letters over to the left side of the trunk instead of centered so boldly like they were on the prototype. Who the heck makes these stupid decisions???!! Ford really irks me when they "go cheap" like that without any regard for asthetics. Alright enough venting, I will keep you all posted.

ORIGINAL: trevman2

either your dealership just got in 4 Ford GT's, or you have had them for a while and are asking such an outrageous mark-up that people dont want to buy from you... Makes me wonder what Dodge is going to do when the Challenger comes out. If they dont try to stick it to the public, I may buy one since I cant afford a GT500 with the mark-up.

Hello Ford....are you listening?????



The situation with us is actually quite the opposite of what you're thinking (I don't blame you for thinking that way though). Not a single GT (other than our actual allotment of three) hits our lot until we have payment in the bank. We've sold twelve GT's since December 2005 - only one was used, the rest were new.

ORIGINAL: murph
Well I got the call from my dealer today. He faxed me the options sheet and told me to make my selections. There are only a few options, which you can mostly read about in any of the Stang mags out there. The important part..........No info on price yet from Ford. My rep wasn't happy about not being able to give me a figure but it works in my favor because he told me that without a price I am not bound to buy the car. So I basically get to equip it how I want and get the first right to refusal once the price figures come in etc. I'll keep you all posted.

PS has anyone seen the pics of the rear of the car. Ford sold out on the slim, 3rd brake light integrated into the spoiler and used the standard trunk mount 3rd brake light thereby pushing the SHELBY letters over to the left side of the trunk instead of centered so boldly like they were on the prototype. Who the heck makes these stupid decisions???!! Ford really irks me when they "go cheap" like that without any regard for asthetics. Alright enough venting, I will keep you all posted.

:) Thanks for all the new info, Murph! Interesting, VERY interesting... I can't wait to see all the other little things that get "canned"! [:@]"C"

ORIGINAL: tripleblack

Yours is one of the more believable posts I've seen on this topic. I do have a few questions...

I've heard that the MSRP for the basic GT500 coupe will be $38,500 - is this correct?

I've been told that the cars will be sold via the SVT network (not all Ford dealers will be able to sell the cars directly from Ford) with an initial allotment of 2 cars per SVT dealer - is this true?

If the cars are limited to the SVT dealers, does this mean the special SVT leave deal is transferable and I can swap my 2004 for a Shelby? (In fact, the wording in the lease leads me to believe this should place me at the front of any "line" and the price of the lease will be based upon MSRP.)

If the cars are sold only through the SVT dealers, and yet not badged as SVT's, is this Ford's cute way of getting around the terms of these lease contracts? (In case anyone is listening to this out there, expect a lawsuit over this if that's the plan).





i'm not sure if you heard yet or not, but the people who leased an '04 cobra or L will get to order their own shelby. go talk to your dealer! i can't wait to order mine!!!

ORIGINAL: msstang

Wishful thinking!! MSRP $39,995 yes....asking price??? totally different.


That was my thought. I doubt it matters what Car & Driver or Carol Shelby says--these are not going to be let go for MSRP to the general public (anyone with an inside track, however, kudos to you!).

The auctions have already begun. On ebay, you'll find a number of dealerships auctioning off rights to buy for OVER MSRP. $15K was the minimum BuyItNow, $20K and $25K were also available. So for mere mortals, "asking price" is going to be more important/realistic than a published price (whenever it gets published) that no one will be able to enforce. We're looking at $55K - $65K as the average.

We just received our allocation for the GT500. We're getting two coupes and two convertibles later this year. Not sure on price yet.

ORIGINAL: ratnacage

We just received our allocation for the GT500. We're getting two coupes and two convertibles later this year. Not sure on price yet.


Thanks for keeping us posted. [sm=icon_cheers.gif]"C"

i dont think they should be able to do a mark up on them to where the average mustang guy who wants one and can afford a 40,000 to 50,000 cant be able to get one...

but hey a mustang with a ford gt engine detuned to 450 hp. you change a couple of things and your able to hit 500 to 600 hp no problem... i cant wait till they start hitting the road and people start modding them im interested in the amount of money it will take to hit certain hp marks...

me having ones out of the question unless i win the lottery...

Ratnacage,
As seeing as you are getting a few GT 500's let me ask you this,how far are you going to go over MSRP?

And why?

Lets see how honest your dealership is.


From the reply I got when I asked Shelby Auto Inc about whats going on, they do not seem real pleased about the new high in greed the dealers seem to be hitting.

I would laugh my butt off if in respose to the greedy dealers that seem to be hitting a new low, Ford would start producing enough GT 500's to sell to anyone who wanted one maybe in 07 after people spent that 20 to 40 grand over MSRP to get one,poor old Henry just rolling in his grave to see what has become of Ford, and to think this was the company that started out holding on to there workers and even hiring though the depression,till Ford almost when bankrupt.

CrimeScene

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ORIGINAL: murph
Well I got the call from my dealer today. He faxed me the options sheet and told me to make my selections. There are only a few options, which you can mostly read about in any of the Stang mags out there. The important part..........No info on price yet from Ford. My rep wasn't happy about not being able to give me a figure but it works in my favor because he told me that without a price I am not bound to buy the car. So I basically get to equip it how I want and get the first right to refusal once the price figures come in etc. I'll keep you all posted.

PS has anyone seen the pics of the rear of the car. Ford sold out on the slim, 3rd brake light integrated into the spoiler and used the standard trunk mount 3rd brake light thereby pushing the SHELBY letters over to the left side of the trunk instead of centered so boldly like they were on the prototype. Who the heck makes these stupid decisions???!! Ford really irks me when they "go cheap" like that without any regard for asthetics. Alright enough venting, I will keep you all posted.

:) Thanks for all the new info, Murph! Interesting, VERY interesting... I can't wait to see all the other little things that get "canned"! [:@]"C"



FYI - I got a call from my Central Florida dealer rep today, by the way Ratnacage I don't know what kind of strings these guys are pulling, but they are getting 11 (ELEVEN) GT500's (so much for the allocation theories! :eek:) My rep who has been awesome as far as updates, etc. told me that they are getting three extra based on winning the president's award, they are a SVT dealership, and one other reason. I am number four on the list. It's funny because I have money down at a South Florida dealership and am number four on their list as well and have received ZERO info from then (that's why I don't have anymore updates for you as far as that list goes GBPackerFan).

Like CrimeScene said I think it is going to be all about the greed factor. Last march when I started calling around trying to get on waiting lists one Ft. Laud area dealer refused to take a deposit and another stated flat out that "those cars would be for the GM and his buddies" [sm=badbadbad.gif]. My rep advised me last November that they were looking for UP TO $10k over sticker but told me that many Orlando and Tampa area dealers were looking to get $15-20K. I still haven't been advised of a price but since that is the case I am not bound to purchase the car either.

FYI2- I found out the Le Mans and rocker stripes are vinyl [sm=badidea.gif], not painted on like on the FORD GT. What a bummer!

ORIGINAL: murph
FYI - I got a call from my Central Florida dealer rep today, by the way Ratnacage I don't know what kind of strings these guys are pulling, but they are getting 11 (ELEVEN) GT500's (so much for the allocation theories! :eek:) My rep who has been awesome as far as updates, etc. told me that they are getting three extra based on winning the president's award, they are a SVT dealership, and one other reason. I am number four on the list. It's funny because I have money down at a South Florida dealership and am number four on their list as well and have received ZERO info from then (that's why I don't have anymore updates for you as far as that list goes GBPackerFan).

Like CrimeScene said I think it is going to be all about the greed factor. Last march when I started calling around trying to get on waiting lists one Ft. Laud area dealer refused to take a deposit and another stated flat out that "those cars would be for the GM and his buddies" [sm=badbadbad.gif]. My rep advised me last November that they were looking for UP TO $10k over sticker but told me that many Orlando and Tampa area dealers were looking to get $15-20K. I still haven't been advised of a price but since that is the case I am not bound to purchase the car either.

FYI2- I found out the Le Mans and rocker stripes are vinyl [sm=badidea.gif], not painted on like on the FORD GT. What a bummer!

You've GOT to be kidding me! [sm=devilgrin.gif]"C"

ORIGINAL: antiv6

i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper


That would make the Mach1 have 2 more valves rite. YOu cant put it as simplistic as that.

its got a completely differnt front end....the headlight buckets and all that is totally differnt, the spoiler....some other stuff.....the fact its actually a real shelby and not someones customization of a regular old stang....etc. dont forget the facti ts making 475 hp out of its 5.4L supercharged engine....dosent sound like a decorated GT to me........

as for this california special and the boss and whatever else is coming out....u can say that unless they are going to have something that really seperates them.

ORIGINAL: Shifty101Easy

its got a completely differnt front end....the headlight buckets and all that is totally differnt, the spoiler....some other stuff.....the fact its actually a real shelby and not someones customization of a regular old stang....etc. dont forget the facti ts making 475 hp out of its 5.4L supercharged engine....dosent sound like a decorated GT to me........

as for this california special and the boss and whatever else is coming out....u can say that unless they are going to have something that really seperates them.


Exactly Shifty! My head spins everytime I see a 911, let alone a 911 Turbo. With the money I am spending on the Shelby I could buy a 2-3 yr used 911 or a Viper and probably get more looks from the ladies and enter the exotic car class .......... but I don't care. I am on my 3rd Stang and realize there are cars that will outperform the Shelby hands down, however this car isn't going to be a daily driver, it's going to sit in the garage inside a bubble until the rainy season subsides in South Fla. I never thought once about buying another Mustang, but once I saw that Shelby was hooking up with SVT and Ford I had to have one. Hopefully it will be a collector's car, worst case scenario I can always sell it. It's not like I am going to lose my ass on it, there are plenty of potential buyers it seems.

As far as greed goes, this is America and allowing the market to determine price is not "greedy." Believe me, I've been in this business for only 11 months, and I've been the "buyer" many many times, and only now understand the issues on the other side of the table. For some reason, everyone that walks into a dealership seems to think they're being ripped off if the dealer makes a profit, however slim. This is retarded. All of you either work for a company, or perhaps own your own. How would any of you collect a paycheck if there wasn't a profit involved somewhere - how about if you were paid in accordance with what your expenditures were - you know, to each according to his need? Sound familiar?

It's not "dishonest" to sell to the highest bidder - no one is holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to pay X over sticker. They do it because they want the car and are "willing" participants. Dishonesty is when a dealer tricks a buyer into paying more than what was agreed to, or delivers something other than what was promised. This is not the case here.

Just because you want something at a price YOU can afford doesn't mean the market has to bow down to you. Patience!

And on that note we just got confirmation of our first GT500, white with blue stripes VIN# 1ZVHT88S775197709, due mid to late summer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-Mustang-SHELBY-GT-NEW-2007-FORD-MUSTANG-SHELBY-GT-500-COUPE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6236QQitemZ463336 1275QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

That is one truly BEAUTIFUL car!!! Thanks for all the info, and the link, too! "C"

haha i love how the dealership guys describe getting their dealerships GT500 as if they were expecting a baby. awesome.

better believe it - it is just like expecting a baby! :)

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how do the saleens compare to this? power and pricing?

I am SERIOUSLY considering this 07 GT500 or getting a Saleen perhaps

GT500 - approx 475bhp using 5.4 V8 block price $40k+ (no price set but could be upto $60k with greedy dealers)

Saleen S281sc - 425bhp using 4,6 V8 block, price $52k-$60k depending on extras

from reading as much as possible about the two as im looking to buy the saleen also, the saleen has higher spec brakes,suspension, interior etc
(waits for backlash on my comments!)



for 1.. correct me if im wrong but the '06 saleen(extreme) has 550bhp

and for you guys saying that the price of the new shelby is to much for the average mustang guy... well IT SHOULD BE! its not an average mustang.. its limited and made by a man who has CHANGED THE AUTOMOBILE HISTORY.. the car will be worth every penny imo.. its not an ordinary mustang.. its a shelby cobra gt500 cmon now.. with the minor things you can do to it you will spank practically anything.. now i probably wont own one till im 50 and even then i probably wont because things will change but lemme tell u its going to hold its value very well..
i mean cmon 03/04 cobras are still costing more then at 05-06 gt by me.. they go up to 35,000
i understand its a "mustang" but im sure whatever the price is assuming its from 38k-55k your still getting a good deal

and for you guys saying that the price of the new shelby is to much for the average mustang guy... well IT SHOULD BE! its not an average mustang.. its limited and made by a man who has CHANGED THE AUTOMOBILE HISTORY..

I agree with you 100% and also with ratinacage about the "greedy" dealers. Even though I am a purchaser and would love to get a "deal", I am happy to have just been able to order one, let alone pay up to $10k (per my dealer) over sticker for one.

This car and none of the Cobra's for that matter have ever been an average mustang and for the average guy. The Shelby GT 500 should be praised and appreciated by all mustang fans even if it is out of their reach, for this car has and will give the Ford Mustang much more "street cred" among the muckity mucks driving high end performance cars that are really out of reach.

For more info on GT500's goto www.fordgt500.com.

Bah humbug!!!!!!!!

I am just waiting for the new challenger, screw that. I went to a dealership and wanted to order one and they said they were getting 3 in!!! So I was all pumped and wanted to put a $20k deposit on it, however the salesmanager said oh sorry I am getting one, the dealership owner is getting one, and some other dude is. Then he said basically that I have no hope in hell getting one. So I said right to his face "well you made up my mind then, I will wait until the new challenger comes out and get the SRT-8. It will be something different, and there won't be as many on the road"

Sorry guys I love mustangs, but when the dealerships want to increase the price soo high over MSRP and sell the cars to their employees rather than loyal and return customers, that is just not good PR. mmmmm challenger

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ORIGINAL: antiv6

i cant see spending that much for a gt w/ a stripe and a bigger engine. Id rather have an older viper


Me either. Look at the 65-70 Shelby's. Just Mustangs with stripes and some engine work that are worth nothing more than any other 65-70 Mustang these days...

:eek:



wrong. shelby's now a days are worth WAY more than regular 65-70 mustangs. you wana buy a really nice 67 gt500, better have at least 150k.


I think he was being sarcastic.

I saw on Ebay you can buy a $15,000 contract to garuntee you can get one. I think that is nuts. I would use that $ to mod the hell out of a reg GT. But if you are filthy rich I would do it [&:]