ok, l heard the '03 Cobra can run door to door with a Vette Z06. And a Z06 can run door to door with a SRT-10, so does that mean the Cobra can run with the SRT-10??? My friend and l got in an argument and l said the Cobra runs with the Viper....lf it does, it'll be sad because the Viper has 500hp.

The cars won't run door to door. The z06 only runs 12.29's, the viper runs 11.77's, and the cobra is around 12.8.

http://www.autofacts.ca/classics/fast.htm

There is a lot of cool info on this page.....
Notice the #'s on the '68 Hemi Cuda. Gotta love that old Mopar performance!!!
Mmmmmm Hemi!

YUCK...mopar...

I would question the 12.2 times for the Z06. Maybe on slicks. The tests I've seen show closer to 12.8/12.6. I think some of these tests they must be using some serious VHT or something. Remember, all the new Cobra guys have to do is change the air filter, add a Lightning pulley and they've got 11's too. For a lot less money.

I have a 2002 Z06, and trust me, it won't run 12.2 stock. Best I've got is a 12.6. And there's no way the vipers run in the 11's. they run low 12's, about 12.2-12.4. Actually, the Vette and Viper run a lot closer than you think. Not door to door, obviously, but if a vette gets a viper off the light, it WILL be door to door at the end of the track! As for the cobra's, they run 12.9-13.1 on average. I could easily get my vette to a 12.4-12.5, with a few more runs. Depends on time of day and humidity as well. Anyways,these cars are great. I don't care much for the viper, for I think it is VERY overpriced. It has 500 HP, yes, but it only runs within a few tenths quicker than the vette and it only gets around 10 MPG as opposed tothe vettes' average20 MPG, which is amazing for such a sports car, don't ya think? I am getting a new cobra, so I willbe in a good position to compare performance in both cars. Justmy $.02.

They get 20 MPG? That's insanity! You'll never see me complaining about chevy...but the Cobra is still very cool. In fact, I'd still take a S/C Cobra over that any day. Anyone know the gas mileage on Cobras?

Oh, and no Saleen? I thought you planned on getting a Saleen, not that I complain of the Cobras.

Ask yourself wich car is the best bang for the buck?In my opinion the cobra.

Oh, of course...but on the subject of bang/buck...might as well get a GT and do some pretty heavy mods and use your own supercharger since i know there's better than what Ford's putting in those Cobras.

plus lower insurance...forgot that!

* Anyone know the gas mileage on Cobras?
l'm guessing 15-17.

gas milage for 2003 cobras are 16 city, 22 hwy. Yeah, I was getting a new saleen until i started looking into the new cobras. The new cobra is definitely the way to go for the money. It's cheaper, and will out run even the supercharged saleens, which is very impressive. And yes, the Z06 does get 20 mpg. and thats an average city driving mpg for me. I've never taken it ona trip, but guys on corvetteforum say they easily get up to 28 mpg allthe time. Not bad at all for chevy, but you guys know, although I like both chevy and ford, chevy has ALWAYS had better gas milage in their cars. For some reason, fords just dont get good gas milage. oh well,great bang for the buck. I love the new cobras... speaking of this, can anyone tell me how I can change my member name??? HAHA!!!<IMG src=smileys/smiley17.gif border="0">

And there's no way the vipers run in the 11's. they run low 12's, about 12.2-12.4. *

According to a great many websites, the viper will run in the 12.0 to the high 11's. And with 500 hp and 525 ft/lb torque, it should. These sites include Car and Driver articles, autoweek, etc.

The Car and Driver I read showed the new Viper running 12.20's. Like any car it depends on how you drive it. If they let me test it for the quarter you better believe I would haze the clutch from the line at 5 grand and never lift between shifts. That will net a killer ET but for sure shorten the life of the hardware. Ah, must be the life as a car tester.

The CandD article I found had it at 12.0. It wasn't an independent test on the Viper itself. I found it doing a search on Yahoooooooooo.<img border="0" src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">

But you are right. The driver can make all the difference as well as where it was run at and the weather.

Very true. Mostly depends on who drives. I just figured that the average person who buys a viper can't get it to the 11's. I just said around 12.2-12.4 because that's probably what most people will end up running.Withtimes laid aside, the bottom line is that the viper is fastest, then the Z06, then the cobra. But, as you all know already I'm sure, buya Z06 for 52,000, buy a supercharger for 6,000, then you will eatmost vipers out there, and they cost... what, 80,000+??? not sure on the price, but you can do the math guys! lol

that so stupid when people bring up who paid more money for there car you think the guy in the viper bought it because it was the fastest thing for his money i dont think so. so dont compare how fast cars are to how much they cost cause anyone buying a exotic car doest but them cause there power to money</P>

theres no way a cobra can hang with a viper stock for stock thats just comon sence do the math power to weight ratio and figureing the drivers are equal</P>

quit coming on here just to try and disprove everyone man. not to mention most people who were discussing this thread havent posted anything on the forumfor a few weeks now...

vipers wont hit 11's stock.. but the bugatti 16-4 veryon will...</P>


W-16 quad turbo.... DRoOOOOOOL</P>

4 turbos?

I dont see how that would work.?

nor do i which is why i asked

that's so friggin rad man. anything similar to that volkswagen W6 engine or whatever?

oh...w8...knew it was something like that

the bugatti 16-4 will be the fastest production car.</P>


1001 HP, 996 ft lbs of torque, from the factory.<IMG src=smileys/smiley3.gif border="0"></P>

l thought it was the mcclaren f1.

Not anymore, the McLaren has a top speed of around 240 mph, while the Bugatti EB 16/4 Veyron has a top speed of more than 252 mph. But actually there is one car that tops all the others, it was built in 1990 and there is only one of them, its the Chevy Corvette Callaway Sledgehammer, the worlds fastest street legal car. Pushing nearly 880 hp the top speed is 254.7 mph. But of your talking about acceleration, the 2000 Chevy Camaro ZL1 running 572 c.i. 770 H.P. 683Lbs.torque shot outfrom 0-60 in just 2.7 seconds.</P>


American Cars all the way BABY</P>


Kyle</P>

i agree with that brotha

not enough cylinders though<IMG src=smileys/smiley17.gif border="0">

i witnessed a supposed bone-stock '03 cobra run an 11.99 @ 132 mph last friday night at edgewated raceway in cincinnatti. the only 'mod' that i saw was drag radials.

132 MPH??? uh, ya know what? It couldnt have been stock. Of this I am sure. The old beater runs 11's at 110-115. 132 mph is down there around 10.3-9.90. To run that MPH he has got to have something else besides the stock engine. That MPH is not something many cars are capable of, espcially on DR's. If its a typo, then all is good. if not, someone isnt being honest. It takes a whole lot more than 320 hp to run 132, especially in something that is about 3200-3500 lbs. </P>


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Oh and BTW, I dont give a rat F*** what Car and Driver say, or any mag for that matter. Its all what each car can do with what it has been given. I have seen cars runn all over the place that are supposed to run this or that. Just cause some goofball at a magazine who writes for a living and doesnt know what happens when you change LSA or dur @.050 doesnt mean that is what all of them will run. Its what he got on that day, a comparable baseline is all it is. What YOU get on the timeslip is what is important to YOU. </P>


$$ to power, I will take an old beater bought for $100-200 and built up huge engies,lightened to run as fast as possible for about $5k. Usually I get them to go 12' and 11's streetable.</P>


Does that sound like an attitude? Not mean to be mean. SMILE!!</P>

The z06 only runs 12.29's

Only 12.29sec...

oh ya, thats no biggie, 12.29 isnt fast at all, i mean ne1 could do that.. j/p damn id want a car that can run 12.29, thats fast heh.

Yeah only a 12.29. Not fast at all by race car standards. Pretty quick as far as daily drivers. If you need a 5000 stall 15 inch wide tires and a second stage of spray to get there, its not to impressive though... ON motor small tires etc, its fun and cool numbers. Way out there bow down to the master for import guys, they just dont like to admit it, do they?

Ive seen a z06 pull hard on a SRT-10.

Who can afford it? A Fox 5.0 with the right mods will smoke a stock viper. And do it pretty cheaply. Get an older car like a Firebird with a 455 in it, add some ported heads a mild cam a 2200 stall and lighten it to about 3400 lbs, leave the 3.08-3.42 gears in it and you will be smoking vipers all day long for less than $5k for everything including the car.


Put a 351C or W in an older car (add some good heads like Victors or AFR's on the windsor) a healthy cam, 3.55-4.11 gears, long tube headers sticky tires, lighten it some and you have mid 11's there too. Easy and best of all Cheap on insurance built price but they will burn some more gas. injection is nice for mileage.


Did you know an LS1 can run 11's get 28-30 mpg highway and do it with a stock engine? Even with highway gears 2.73-3.42 and an automatic!!!

ORIGINAL: 03SVTcobraa

I have a 2002 Z06, and trust me, it won't run 12.2 stock. Best I've got is a 12.6. And there's no way the vipers run in the 11's. they run low 12's, about 12.2-12.4. Actually, the Vette and Viper run a lot closer than you think. Not door to door, obviously, but if a vette gets a viper off the light, it WILL be door to door at the end of the track! As for the cobra's, they run 12.9-13.1 on average. I could easily get my vette to a 12.4-12.5, with a few more runs. Depends on time of day and humidity as well. Anyways,Â*these cars are great. I don't care much for the viper, for I think it is VERY overpriced. It has 500 HP, yes, but it only runs within a few tenths quicker than the vette and it only gets around 10 MPG as opposed toÂ*the vettes' averageÂ*20 MPG, which is amazing for such a sports car, don't ya think? I am getting a new cobra, so I willÂ*be in a good position to compare performance in both cars. JustÂ*my $.02.Â*


Hey man, what do you do for a living? I need a better paying job so i can have neat toys like you!

i did something really dumb last night.................

i revved at a late 90's viper. i mean comeon, i was doing it for a joke, but this guy, turned his car around, in the middle of traffic and pulled up next to me at a light and wanted to race. i mean comeon i wish i had a camera cause this viper was riced out. it has some goofy tribal graphics, some green underbody neons, and a HUGE rice wing, i just looked at him and laughed, but he was pissed and wanted to race, so i just let him take off and race himself. and plus there was a cop up ahead and he didnt know! lol haha dumbass.

(z06 12.6 -12.8 =fast) (viper 12.0-12.2=fast) (cobra 12.7-12.9=fast)
(SALEEN S-281E 12.5=fast) (saleen s-281 sc with 3.55s and series 4 sc 13-13.2= gettin there lol) simple as that!

ORIGINAL: Mysterious

&lt;P&gt;132 MPH???Â* uh, ya know what? It couldnt have been stock. Of this I am sure. The old beater runs 11's at 110-115. 132 mph is down there around 10.3-9.90. To run that MPH he has got to have something else besides the stock engine.Â* That MPH is not something many cars are capable of, espcially on DR's. If its a typo, then all is good. if not, someone isnt being honest.Â* It takes a whole lot more than 320 hp to run 132, especially in something that is about 3200-3500 lbs.



AH, not that im saying it can run that fast, IM NOT

However the 03 cobra doesnt have 320 HP, it has 400. And according to quite a few dynos I have seen it is more like 410 or so, unless ford somehow has the most effiecent drivetrain out there (not)

me and my friend stuart in his 2003 SRT-10 (stock except removed resonators and custom paint). Pulled up next to an 03 cobra with exhaust. Won by a good 5 cars and would have kept pulling.

And if you would have checked viper club of america months back when the SRT-10's first came out you would have seen a black 2003 SRT-10 (stock) run an 11.7 on stock tires. Theres a video too.......