wow is all i can say.
http://www.turbomustangs.com/vids/turbomustangvsbusa.wmv

Still amazes when I see a bike get beat by a car.

that was not real, That bike wasnt even trying. it was a 1300

ORIGINAL: blk98stng

wow is all i can say.
http://www.turbomustangs.com/vids/turbomustangvsbusa.wmv

That is one fast turbo Stang...I still dont know if it was computer generated, but it's still a cool video [ Nice post ] [sm=bounceybounce.gif]

ORIGINAL: 89stanglx

that was not real, That bike wasnt even trying. it was a 1300



Why was it not real? My car has 650 hp and will stay side by side with a R1! Im sure the fox is a million lbs lighter, so it wouldnt surprise me at all to get rolled out on by one with a turbo.

The Guy that own that mustang has a couple of vids out there some at the track where I do believe that he runs 9's so no matter what bike its going to be close or exactly what happened in this video.


IF you think it Computer Generated then your just RETARDED!

^^^^^^thanx for the name calling.....It was just my opinion, it could be wrong or right. I have a friend with a twin turbo fox and he could walk all over a R1 but cant get close to a Busa. Maybe this guy just got a better setup.

that's real... there's a few videos of that car on turbomustangs.com

It's not that I was name calling is that every time I watch a video of a mustang or any car for that matter racing a bike everyone assumes that its computer generated. There is no logic to computer generate videos like that. Apologize if it offended anyone.

I believe the vid, but i hear what people are saying, because the bike rider didn't really look like he was on it all the way, even though he likely was.

Another staged vid of a bike vs car kill. I have a literbike and I can tell you that I'd have to be on that bike getting beat by the car before I'd believe it. I've raced a few 03/04 cobras with KB and whipple swaps in the 600hp range from a dig and all kinds of rolls and they NEVER had a shot. I got a almost completely stock zx10. Its funny to see these vids. If we raced from a 100+ roll would be the only way a car like that would be able to pull on a modern liter bike. But, this is a car forum and i'll probably get flamed. I should get a couple of vids of me spanking some cars like that, than maybe it will show you peeps that think cars like that and those turds called supras are even close to a match of a new liter bike.

Brian

hmmmmm. I find it hard to believe as well. I own a busa and well, lets just say fast fast fast. But I am not too sure that this is staged. In the Vid it doesn't even look like the rider was in a lower gear to get rpms up. I think I saw him shift once!!! He was probably being a baby and not wanting to redline his bike. If that was the case then there ya go, I think the busa would have been on top. But the busa is capable of running 9's bone stock, if that fox is able to run 9's well then from the get go, or stand still the busa would be in trouble. Who knows.....cool vid though

ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

Another staged vid of a bike vs car kill. I have a literbike and I can tell you that I'd have to be on that bike getting beat by the car before I'd believe it. I've raced a few 03/04 cobras with KB and whipple swaps in the 600hp range from a dig and all kinds of rolls and they NEVER had a shot. I got a almost completely stock zx10. Its funny to see these vids. If we raced from a 100+ roll would be the only way a car like that would be able to pull on a modern liter bike. But, this is a car forum and i'll probably get flamed. I should get a couple of vids of me spanking some cars like that, than maybe it will show you peeps that think cars like that and those turds called supras are even close to a match of a new liter bike.

Brian


There are TTFox bodies that will run these times (in the link) and be street legal, if this is the same car that has other vids and track runs to back it up, I believe he runs in these time frames and could beat that bike. You're just as bad as some people that can't handle that there is ALWAYS something faster out there. Bike or Car.

http://www.qsl.net/n5mya/testdata.html

not staged. bikes are not invincible contrary to what most people think. nice find

ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

Another staged vid of a bike vs car kill. I have a literbike and I can tell you that I'd have to be on that bike getting beat by the car before I'd believe it. I've raced a few 03/04 cobras with KB and whipple swaps in the 600hp range from a dig and all kinds of rolls and they NEVER had a shot. I got a almost completely stock zx10. Its funny to see these vids. If we raced from a 100+ roll would be the only way a car like that would be able to pull on a modern liter bike. But, this is a car forum and i'll probably get flamed. I should get a couple of vids of me spanking some cars like that, than maybe it will show you peeps that think cars like that and those turds called supras are even close to a match of a new liter bike.

Brian



What have you done to your bike? Ive raced a fully modded 750 (a friend) and pull away from him easily in third and he is in my rearview in fourth. Ive raced a 636 and that was no challange. I had a T5 tranny in the back of my car and a 200 lb passanger and I still beat him after giving him a car length jump on me. My other friend has an R1 slightly modded and we raced and stayed side by side with me ever so slightly pulling on him up to 160-170 mph.

Maybe you need to ride a little more? [sm=smiley20.gif]

Maybe your buddy needs to learn how to ride that R1. A fully modded 750 is a 600 with a slightly bored out motor. Not impressed. You got a bike with 130 hp, what about a liter bike with 160 hp with more torque and a few lbs lighter. You guys are so ****ed up. Bikes are not invincable, but I can get one from the dealer bone stock for $10k and spank vipers with it. Your KB cobra has been beaten. I got a buddy with a 2.2l kb with a bunch of supporting mods and he can beat 600 from a roll. From a dig hes spanked. He cannot beat me from any roll. I can go 0-160 in about 12-13 sec. Can U? nope. I can go 80 - 100 in about 2.5 sec....can u??? NOPE. I can run the quarter in 10 flat.....u cant do that. Oh, and Im stock. With bikes, you can maybe get an extra 15 horse from a "fully modded" bike. I love cobras, and they love to spank my GT. BUT, when they get mouthy like you JD, I pull out the bike show them what fast is. Like what was just posted, somebody is always faster than me......maybe if that have a turbo zx10 that is....!!! I still have not met a street legal car in my town that could put the smack down on a literbike. Thats Chicago.... GO SOX!!

:D

ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

Maybe your buddy needs to learn how to ride that R1. A fully modded 750 is a 600 with a slightly bored out motor. Not impressed. You got a bike with 130 hp, what about a liter bike with 160 hp with more torque and a few lbs lighter. You guys are so ****ed up. Bikes are not invincable, but I can get one from the dealer bone stock for $10k and spank vipers with it. Your KB cobra has been beaten. I got a buddy with a 2.2l kb with a bunch of supporting mods and he can beat 600 from a roll. From a dig hes spanked. He cannot beat me from any roll. I can go 0-160 in about 12-13 sec. Can U? nope. I can go 80 - 100 in about 2.5 sec....can u??? NOPE. I can run the quarter in 10 flat.....u cant do that. Oh, and Im stock. With bikes, you can maybe get an extra 15 horse from a "fully modded" bike. I love cobras, and they love to spank my GT. BUT, when they get mouthy like you JD, I pull out the bike show them what fast is. Like what was just posted, somebody is always faster than me......maybe if that have a turbo zx10 that is....!!! I still have not met a street legal car in my town that could put the smack down on a literbike. Thats Chicago.... GO SOX!!

:D



I can guarentee that my friend has rode longer than you... had more bikes than you and can out ride you any day of the week... so I HIGHLY doubt he needs any more experience. Anyhoo... I know what I have raced and I know what my car compares to. A modified R1 is the highest Ive been and I hung with him. I couldnt care less if you believe it. Denial is what it sounds to me. LOL

ORIGINAL: jdaniel


ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

Maybe your buddy needs to learn how to ride that R1. A fully modded 750 is a 600 with a slightly bored out motor. Not impressed. You got a bike with 130 hp, what about a liter bike with 160 hp with more torque and a few lbs lighter. You guys are so ****ed up. Bikes are not invincable, but I can get one from the dealer bone stock for $10k and spank vipers with it. Your KB cobra has been beaten. I got a buddy with a 2.2l kb with a bunch of supporting mods and he can beat 600 from a roll. From a dig hes spanked. He cannot beat me from any roll. I can go 0-160 in about 12-13 sec. Can U? nope. I can go 80 - 100 in about 2.5 sec....can u??? NOPE. I can run the quarter in 10 flat.....u cant do that. Oh, and Im stock. With bikes, you can maybe get an extra 15 horse from a "fully modded" bike. I love cobras, and they love to spank my GT. BUT, when they get mouthy like you JD, I pull out the bike show them what fast is. Like what was just posted, somebody is always faster than me......maybe if that have a turbo zx10 that is....!!! I still have not met a street legal car in my town that could put the smack down on a literbike. Thats Chicago.... GO SOX!!

:D



I can guarentee that my friend has rode longer than you... had more bikes than you and can out ride you any day of the week... so I HIGHLY doubt he needs any more experience. Anyhoo... I know what I have raced and I know what my car compares to. A modified R1 is the highest Ive been and I hung with him. I couldnt care less if you believe it. Denial is what it sounds to me. LOL


Works for me. I feel the same as you on this subject and all I can say is we agree to disagree. Besides, how do you know how many bikes I have had and my riding skill? You dont, and odds are you never will. All I can say is I do admire those cobras and I do wish I had one...however, I would never give up the bike to get one.

Go SOX!

aight kids play nice or everyone is going to timeout

yeah I've raced someone in a 03/04 cobra before. Saw him on the highway and I toyed with him a bit. We both got off at the next exit and I told him I'd give him three races. one 60 roll one 85 roll and one 100 (what he wanted) well anyways the a**hole switched lanes and cut me off at about 155 and almost clipped my front end. Needless to say, I didn't race him anymore...

I find this hard to believe..I have a Rf900rr,which is not the fastest bike.I have stage 3 jet kit,3 and 5 degree ignition advancer,Vance&Hines ss2r and geared 2 teeth up in the rear.I kill 2003 cobras all day long,I have been riding for 20 years,but no direspect to the stang, a Busa is just plain nasty....You could watch the video and see that guy on the bike was clueless Point 1.Never seen the front of the bike lift very much from the slower stars.2.He used the clutch,anyone who races bikes never uses a clutch.Just drop the rpm a hair and bang her into the next,less wear and tear on clutch and much quicker back into the power....

yeah that's a little hard to believe I'd figure that bike would woop the help out of the car. WTF?

You guys find it so hard to believe but you have a GSXR 1000 rider two posts above this one that said a Cobra almost clipped his FRONT END at 155 mph. Obvisously he was in front of the bike... meaning he was pulling. No disrespect to you, FastToysForLife. Just explained it that way. Most of you guys that "find it hard to believe" or dont believe it at all has evidently NEVER been in a fast car. Anyhoo... I guess I will have to make a video of my own.

ORIGINAL: jdaniel

You guys find it so hard to believe but you have a GSXR 1000 rider two posts above this one that said a Cobra almost clipped his FRONT END at 155 mph. Obvisously he was in front of the bike... meaning he was pulling. No disrespect to you, FastToysForLife. Just explained it that way. Most of you guys that "find it hard to believe" or dont believe it at all has evidently NEVER been in a fast car. Anyhoo... I guess I will have to make a video of my own.




Please do so...because i would love to see what your car is all about. If its as fast as you say it is, its gonna be a monster. Since your friend has the R1, you should put out a video of your car vs the R1.....I think everyone agree with me on this one. JD Right now i could only see it to believe it. [sm=goodidea.gif]??????

Again, depends on rider skill (a new R1 can wheelie at 120 mph, so a bad rider would be too chicken to give it full throttle at lower speeds, say 70 mph, especailly on a Busa).

The most well know car vs bike video floating around is a supercharged 833 rwhp Viper against a bunch of Busas and a ZX-12r. The Viper could tie a dead stock Busa, but gets walked by everthing else. The Busa on spray made the Viper look like a Kia.

With no info on how much hp that Mustang had, we really can't say. But to beat a Busa with a good rider you'll need to trap atleast 150 mph, or very high 140's. Even the new Gixxer 1000 can hit 125 mph in 7.5 seconds, so they're definetly tough to beat.

the biker is not afraid of falling... just with a T shirt[&:]

great battle ;)

Click here to watch tmvsrob900 (http://media.putfile.com/tmvsrob900)

you say you're zx10 can run 10's in the quarter... but can you?? why do i ask? yamaha sponsered an event at atco where anyone with a yamaha gets in for free. my gf's dad has a vmax so we went. stock vmax's making 10 second passes were destroying the r1's all day long. very few r1's made it in the 10's....since nobody could keep the front end down. you can't go on times made from a professional driver. by the way... a 72 year old man on a vmax had the quickest pass with a mid-high 9. i've never raced a busa... but i've never had a problem with a bike in my stang....yet;)

i agree with jdan. most of you have never been in a REALLY fast car. therefore i understand why you call bs

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650HP and you stay side by side with an R1!? i figure you would walk all over it with that kind of power... maybe you have 650HP peak. but not consistent?
ORIGINAL: jdaniel


ORIGINAL: 89stanglx

that was not real, That bike wasnt even trying. it was a 1300



Why was it not real? My car has 650 hp and will stay side by side with a R1! Im sure the fox is a million lbs lighter, so it wouldnt surprise me at all to get rolled out on by one with a turbo.

ugh......Lets just say cool vid and get it over with. There are too many variables for any of us to know what really happened unless the author is on this site. Don't know the rider skill and we don't know what is in the car. Could be staged or not, the bike is fast the car is fast. I hate it when forums turn into a pissing contest...[sm=bicker.gif] Later.

dude its a TURBOMUSTANG, do you understand what that means? thats serious power, ive seen a few videos of single turbo supras spranking busa's, ive seen a few mustangs sprank busa's but its happens. These are turbo torque monsters, u just dont **** with them on the highway so until you can show yourselves (bike racers) beating a fully built turbo set up mustang on the highway then dont talk. No disrespect by the way, bikes are awesome.

ORIGINAL: Syndicate

650HP and you stay side by side with an R1!? i figure you would walk all over it with that kind of power... maybe you have 650HP peak. but not consistent?
ORIGINAL: jdaniel


ORIGINAL: 89stanglx

that was not real, That bike wasnt even trying. it was a 1300



Why was it not real? My car has 650 hp and will stay side by side with a R1! Im sure the fox is a million lbs lighter, so it wouldnt surprise me at all to get rolled out on by one with a turbo.





Please remember... im in a 3900 lb car! LOL

ill go get my friend michael shcumacer's F1 car and beat you all. for this topic about cars being faster than bikes... they are faster. Honda Motorsports (HoMo) put on a show on speed tv where they took a honda cbr1000rr , BAR honda F1 car, and a honda powered boat to see hoo was faster. of course the boat didnt hardley move. the bike beat the F1 car off the line and when the car caught traction it beat it by 3-4 lengths in the 1320. the bike was a formula race series bike.

ORIGINAL: nailman28

ill go get my friend michael shcumacer's F1 car and beat you all. for this topic about cars being faster than bikes... they are faster. Honda Motorsports (HoMo) put on a show on speed tv where they took a honda cbr1000rr , BAR honda F1 car, and a honda powered boat to see hoo was faster. of course the boat didnt hardley move. the bike beat the F1 car off the line and when the car caught traction it beat it by 3-4 lengths in the 1320. the bike was a formula race series bike.


Ok, since when did we start comparing F1 cars?

Those things are unbeatable by anything on a track (the turning type). Their top end is unbelieveable. R&T got a Jaguar F1 to go 0 to 160 mph in 6.6 seconds!

They do the 1/4 mile at 9.3s trapping 181 mph. Some Lingenfelters will hang in the 1/4 mile, but gets dusted by the trap.

Well because I own both bikes I will make a comment.
I have a 2004 R1 and a 2005 Busa. The Busa walks all over the R1 like it was standing still. The R1 has no torque at all, 1st gear is hard to use because once you hit around 7500 rpm's the front end starts to go towards the sky and becomes useless, then you have to short shift into second. The Busa can be launched hard and run all the way through 1st gear with no problems.

With my buddy riding my R1 and Me riding the Busa in all the races we tried....The Busa walks all over the R1.

It takes a lot more than 650 HP in a car to take out a BUSA that is actually trying. Hell On New years day I destroyed a Stock Viper GTS from a 40 mph roll like he was standing still.

Now if you are talking about older R1's or older street bikes that are running carbs with no fuel injection, then it is possible that 650 HP might get it done. But no way is it going to get it done for any Stock Busa that is actually rying to race.

ORIGINAL: 1badsc

It takes a lot more than 650 HP in a car to take out a BUSA that is actually trying. Hell On New years day I destroyed a Stock Viper GTS from a 40 mph roll like he was standing still.



you're comparing a 3000lbs fox with 650rwhp to a 3700lbs car with 450 crank hp... HUGE difference. that viper would need almost double its power to keep up with that fox. i've seen plenty of mustang vids keeping up and beating busas, i've even seen a couple at the track too... a busa is what low 10s ? there are some street driven stangs in the low 9s ~ high 8s ...they're rare but they do exist.

I got buddies with stock busas that run 9.80's, and ones with stretched swingarms and a few mods that run 9.60s.

ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

Another staged vid of a bike vs car kill. I have a literbike and I can tell you that I'd have to be on that bike getting beat by the car before I'd believe it. I've raced a few 03/04 cobras with KB and whipple swaps in the 600hp range from a dig and all kinds of rolls and they NEVER had a shot. I got a almost completely stock zx10. Its funny to see these vids. If we raced from a 100+ roll would be the only way a car like that would be able to pull on a modern liter bike. But, this is a car forum and i'll probably get flamed. I should get a couple of vids of me spanking some cars like that, than maybe it will show you peeps that think cars like that and those turds called supras are even close to a match of a new liter bike.

Brian

i agree, a busa should be about 6-6.5 secs (stock) to 100 with a decent rider, the thing will do 85 in first gear. IF this guys is running 9s then that is going to be mighty close. I think it is funny when car guys think they can stomp everything including a bike, it is just physics. A well set up liter bike is probably pushing 180+rwhp with less than 600 lbs (assuming not a tub of a rider.) power to weight, little over 3. 600rwhp car, 3000 lbs (light car) is 5 to 1. equal qualified drivers, physically impossible, bike will walk everytime.

agreed power to weight ratio is big, but they are also other factors;
acceleration would be determined by a combo of torque and hp, not just hp
also gearing
and aerodynamics- etc.

but more or less I agree with you

The only downside to being on a liter bike in a race with a super HP car, is that the bike will be limited to around 180 mph because of the drag. If you had a literbike with a turbo and the right gearing you are in the 200mph club easy. BUT, a $10K bike with a $5k turbo kit is hard to find among the younger riding group that financed their new GSXr1K for 60 months. If you are in a 650HP turbo fox capable of 190mph, you will eventually walk past the bike. Now, on the otherside, you would need one badass car with more traction than you hav ever had to beat a literbike 0-150mph. I know there are cars that will run nines in the quater mile, and those are about as scarse as a turbo literbike. I dont know anyone with a streetlegal 9 sec car in my area... or a turbo sportbike for that matter.

i will pst a vid of the turbo verson of the hayabusa

ORIGINAL: LvGordo

I think it is funny when car guys think they can stomp everything including a bike


i think it's funny when a guy doesn't understand that 8.5 sec is faster than 10 (or 9.6)[8D]

Is it me, or doesn't the lack of weight not only contribute to a higher power to weight ratio, but also a lower traction coefficient? Most "fast" bikes I've seen are slow off the line (well, slower than a car...), that is except for drag bikes with a wheelie bar.....

No, not too many traction issues. But, wheelies are the ugly sister to lost traction and thats the number one killer of launches. Thats why you want to lower the bike and stretch it. I'd rather have the tire break loose at the launch than ride a wheelie through the 60'. And realize that you can find bikes at any givin local hangout that are capable of low 10's/high 9's. But, find me that 8.5 sec stang out on the street. And, also realize that a new busa can be had for $11K give or take and it will run those times with the right rider.

Well first off, all the Bikes from like 1998 and up are limited to 186 - 189 mph. The busa is also the most areodynamic bike made today and will reach 150 mph in around 10 seconds and continue to pull like mad all the way to the speed limiter. Now go try to find a car that has enough power and gear to beat the bike in the 1/4 and on top speed. When racing a bike you will generally have two options. THe car will have enough power and very agressive gearing to be 1/4 winner. That same car that just ran a 10 through the 1/4 is not going to have the gearing to run 190mph without pushing 1000+ HP.

I have a 2002 Busa (Silver & Grey) with an electric shifter and a 2002 Mustang GT (very few mods). My Busa would take a GT hands down any time. I'm not the best on start as the bike has a tendency to lift but once the back wheel grabs that thing flies.

ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

find me that 8.5 sec stang out on the street.


i didn't say they were on every street corner, obviously. but dang dude they are some out there, maybe that video was just one of them. i'm not arguing that busas are slow, they're hella fast, i'm just saying that there are some cars out there that can beat em' ...it took me like 2 minutes of googling to find a street car that runs 8s... on top of it, it was a stang, does it on drag radials (not slicks) and is driven by a 24 year old girl

http://www.hardcore50.com/racer_profiles/EricaOrtiz-Lugo.htm

what more would you want.

ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

No, not too many traction issues. But, wheelies are the ugly sister to lost traction and thats the number one killer of launches. Thats why you want to lower the bike and stretch it. I'd rather have the tire break loose at the launch than ride a wheelie through the 60'. And realize that you can find bikes at any givin local hangout that are capable of low 10's/high 9's. But, find me that 8.5 sec stang out on the street. And, also realize that a new busa can be had for $11K give or take and it will run those times with the right rider.



Find you and 8.5 sec. mustang on the street...How many u want....There are an ass load of 8&9 sec mustangs out on the street...As far as beating a "Busa" with a car..Gee ya that's not realistic...Dude..Bike will normally beat a run of the mull car..But I have been in cars that have beaten "big" bikes such as Busas and other models...Cities such as San Antonio,Tampa,Orland,Detroit,Phoenix,and an a** load of other places have some sick a** cars that love to beat up on bikes...

Will your 8 sec mustang go 190 mph? probably not, so in a real street race it would probably get walked if the race lasted more than a quater mile. I know of a few 8 sec mustangs, and they are far from streetable.

Brian

Well here is a Supra beating on a ZX10
http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Bikes+%5e%5e+ATV/1/345F3BE1-3C26-4177-985C-3438FC0EAD47.htm

Here's a Vette beating a Busa
http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Bikes+%5e%5e+ATV/3/586EB300-91BF-43EA-9D3B-A3AEE843146A.htm

Here's an Fbody doing a bike
http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Bikes+%5e%5e+ATV/5/7AF43F99-71C9-4C22-AF44-3A6A726A472E.htm

ORIGINAL: turbostang21

i agree with jdan. most of you have never been in a REALLY fast car. therefore i understand why you call bs


I would have to see it to beleive it. I have ridden for years and have yet to see a car run with a bike. That being said, your point is true, i have never ridden in a REALLY fast car. I did the Petty racing experience once and when that dude hit the gas outta the pits, the only think i thought of was, this is bike-like acceleration, so i guess it is possible. but when a busa can run 0-100 in like 6 secs, that is hard to beat no matter what you drivin'.

Or the busa could throw a turbo on and teh conversation is over.

ORIGINAL: delk racer

Well here is a Supra beating on a ZX10
http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Bikes+%5e%5e+ATV/1/345F3BE1-3C26-4177-985C-3438FC0EAD47.htm

Here's a Vette beating a Busa
http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Bikes+%5e%5e+ATV/3/586EB300-91BF-43EA-9D3B-A3AEE843146A.htm

Here's an Fbody doing a bike
http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Bikes+%5e%5e+ATV/5/7AF43F99-71C9-4C22-AF44-3A6A726A472E.htm


Sorry Delk but the Vette and that F-body vid are very very questionable, In the F-body vid the bike rode a wheelie for 25% of the race lol and the Vette vid the Busa was walking him but seemed like he let off(but know that i think about it if that was a Ling Vette anything possible). But in the Supra vid that guy won IMO hands down. But great post [sm=smiley20.gif]

ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

Will your 8 sec mustang go 190 mph? probably not, so in a real street race it would probably get walked if the race lasted more than a quater mile. I know of a few 8 sec mustangs, and they are far from streetable.

Brian


they go 160+mph in the 1320...think about it. i know these cars are few and far between, but they are there and in some areas there's a bunch of them. i haven't ran a busa, but have ran away from a r1 so i think i could at least hang with one. judging by the reactions to any bike i have raced its obvious they were as suprised as you are skeptical

I have beaten bikes with my car...And my car is nothing special...As far as beating bikes,I just don't see why it's so hard to believe..I mean sure the majority of bikes will beat the majority of cars..But it is not impossible it happens all the time it's a fact....Some of you guys that ride bikes should go to some NMRA races or some Fun Ford events,and even some NMCA events...And just hang around for the weekend and see how many cars you will get beat by..Those guys out there that still street race(I don't anymore) love beating up on bikes...Hell Orlando and Bradenton Florida will be loaded with some sick ass mustangs for the next couple of weeks..Go down there and see if a car can beat a bike.....;)

ORIGINAL: delk racer

I have beaten bikes with my car...And my car is nothing special...As far as beating bikes,I just don't see why it's so hard to believe..I mean sure the majority of bikes will beat the majority of cars..But it is not impossible it happens all the time it's a fact....Some of you guys that ride bikes should go to some NMRA races or some Fun Ford events,and even some NMCA events...And just hang around for the weekend and see how many cars you will get beat by..Those guys out there that still street race(I don't anymore) love beating up on bikes...Hell Orlando and Bradenton Florida will be loaded with some sick ass mustangs for the next couple of weeks..Go down there and see if a car can beat a bike.....;)


haha yeah right:D

This is just a handful of cars from The NMRA Finals last year...These are very streetable cars....Sure not the kinda car you just wanna have as a daily driver...But streetable.......There are many more cars that are more streetable and almost as quick withe better gearing for higher speeds that hang around these events and the streets in many parts of the counrty..If you are so eager to find out how true this is I can make this happen for you , so that you can have a real life encounter wit a bike killer...




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Frank Provenza 8.201@173.09
Phillip Clemmons 8.276@169.19
Dave Hopper 8.359@170.47
Mauro Vitale 8.457@167.93
John Kolivas 8.591@166.68
Tim Johnson 8.607@168.56
Chris Tuten 8.640@166.68
Chris Evans 8.712@162.47

Oh ya on Radial Tires.......

Are you trying to set some people up for failure???....:D
ORIGINAL: turbostang21


ORIGINAL: delk racer

I have beaten bikes with my car...And my car is nothing special...As far as beating bikes,I just don't see why it's so hard to believe..I mean sure the majority of bikes will beat the majority of cars..But it is not impossible it happens all the time it's a fact....Some of you guys that ride bikes should go to some NMRA races or some Fun Ford events,and even some NMCA events...And just hang around for the weekend and see how many cars you will get beat by..Those guys out there that still street race(I don't anymore) love beating up on bikes...Hell Orlando and Bradenton Florida will be loaded with some sick ass mustangs for the next couple of weeks..Go down there and see if a car can beat a bike.....;)


haha yeah right:D

ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE


ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

find me that 8.5 sec stang out on the street.


i didn't say they were on every street corner, obviously. but dang dude they are some out there, maybe that video was just one of them. i'm not arguing that busas are slow, they're hella fast, i'm just saying that there are some cars out there that can beat em' ...it took me like 2 minutes of googling to find a street car that runs 8s... on top of it, it was a stang, does it on drag radials (not slicks) and is driven by a 24 year old girl

http://www.hardcore50.com/racer_profiles/EricaOrtiz-Lugo.htm

what more would you want.



Congrats on searching the world to find a drag car that can beat one. Dont run into many drags cars in traffic. Not sure why car guys are so hurt that there is something faster than their car out there that cost a fraction as much. :eek: And how many of these 8-9 sec cars are dd? less than 1% would be my guess.

ORIGINAL: LvGordo


ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE


ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

find me that 8.5 sec stang out on the street.


i didn't say they were on every street corner, obviously. but dang dude they are some out there, maybe that video was just one of them. i'm not arguing that busas are slow, they're hella fast, i'm just saying that there are some cars out there that can beat em' ...it took me like 2 minutes of googling to find a street car that runs 8s... on top of it, it was a stang, does it on drag radials (not slicks) and is driven by a 24 year old girl

http://www.hardcore50.com/racer_profiles/EricaOrtiz-Lugo.htm

what more would you want.



Congrats on searching the world to find a drag car that can beat one. Dont run into many drags cars in traffic. Not sure why car guys are so hurt that there is something faster than their car out there that cost a fraction as much. :eek: And how many of these 8-9 sec cars are dd? less than 1% would be my guess.



Exactly, and if you are giving that supra in the vid a ton of boost more than stock, give the zx10 a turbo setup. And like what was said above, this conversation is over. Remember, a stock ZX10 is around 155hp and 400Lbs, give it an extra 75-100 hp and its pretty much untouchable on the street...roll or dig.

ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One


ORIGINAL: LvGordo


ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE


ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

find me that 8.5 sec stang out on the street.


i didn't say they were on every street corner, obviously. but dang dude they are some out there, maybe that video was just one of them. i'm not arguing that busas are slow, they're hella fast, i'm just saying that there are some cars out there that can beat em' ...it took me like 2 minutes of googling to find a street car that runs 8s... on top of it, it was a stang, does it on drag radials (not slicks) and is driven by a 24 year old girl

http://www.hardcore50.com/racer_profiles/EricaOrtiz-Lugo.htm

what more would you want.



Congrats on searching the world to find a drag car that can beat one. Dont run into many drags cars in traffic. Not sure why car guys are so hurt that there is something faster than their car out there that cost a fraction as much. :eek: And how many of these 8-9 sec cars are dd? less than 1% would be my guess.



Exactly, and if you are giving that supra in the vid a ton of boost more than stock, give the zx10 a turbo setup. And like what was said above, this conversation is over. Remember, a stock ZX10 is around 155hp and 400Lbs, give it an extra 75-100 hp and its pretty much untouchable on the street...roll or dig.



you guys are rediculous:eek:waaa put a turbo on the busa and game over!!! that's not the point. the point is that you guys called bs on a car beating a busa, and you are wrong. it can and does happen....end of story. nobody said a bike isn't crazy fast off the showroom floor. btw there is a video on this site of a black tt viper killing a stock busa and then beating both a turbo and a nitrous busa on some crazy long straight road somewhere in the desert if you care to look for it

http://www.streetcarforums.com/videos/JUDGEMENT%20DAY%202HR.wmv
TT viper racing bikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you guys are rediculous:eek:waaa put a turbo on the busa and game over!!! that's not the point. the point is that you guys called bs on a car beating a busa, and you are wrong. it can and does happen....end of story. nobody said a bike isn't crazy fast off the showroom floor. btw there is a video on this site of a black tt viper killing a stock busa and then beating both a turbo and a nitrous busa on some crazy long straight road somewhere in the desert if you care to look for it
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Yes, i would want to see that as well. I would just have to see it to beleive it. i would hope a $100K viper can take most things on the street (turbo busa? please) How many people here or out there have those cars? Few and faaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr between. I just call BS on these people with a Cobra with exhaust and pullies claiming they are stomping all modern liter and above bikes. If we are going with basically a full race car beating a street bike, then lets get Matt Hines on his Harley (!) and stomp everything. Any car that could take a bike of that caliber is going to be nursed back into it's garage where the keys will hang til the next weekend or so. This is going on so long, i am even forgetting the point we are arguing about :D

:D hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now? [8D]

ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE

:D hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now? [8D]


:D:D

ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE

:D hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now? [8D]


go back and read idiot, that is not my point.

ORIGINAL: LvGordo


ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE

:D hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now? [8D]


go back and read idiot, that is not my point.


woah name calling...that always gets your point across:D if you're point is the whole pullied cobras running with liter bikes (jdan) his cobra is far from just a pulley and exhaust...kb for starters;)

ORIGINAL: LvGordo


ORIGINAL: HC_CrAzYHoRsE

:D hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now? [8D]


go back and read idiot, that is not my point.


i read it all, and i have come to the conclusion that you have no interesting argument .. just alot of [sm=icon_blah.gif] and [sm=boohoo.gif]

Well I am a service manager of a Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Victory dealership, and a ZX10, and R1 only run in the 10s stock. A car can easily take either of those. Same with the busa, high 9's low 10s. If there is a bike you should be happy about beating, it's the Victory Hammer, or the Yamaha V-max, those are the two fastest bikes on our showroom. The zx10, R1, and busa are no match for those two sport tour models in the 1/4... Top speed, yes, but in the 1/4 no match.

^^^ Personally, I would rather have a V-Max than a crotch rocket any day. The whole thing is, it takes a little work and a lot of skill to get most cars into the 10's and 9's in the 1/4. The fact that alot of these sport bikes can do that right off the show room floor is exactly why they are so dangerous. And please don't give me that whole "the bike isn't dangerous, it's the person riding it that's dangerous" crap. That may be true, but tell me what's the logic behind having a bike that can do 190mph? Where and why would anyone, other than on a track, need to go that fast?
So I will say to all you who are arguing on behalf of the "liter" bikes... congrats. You have a fast bike. WOW! Quite an accomplishment!

sorry i didn't read through the whole post but so this might have been said

all right i ride street bikes i have an 01 gsxr 600 that is making 108 horse at the wheel i take most 03 and older 750s in the 1/4 and stay right behind them top speed i have beaten a quite afew liter bikes in the 1/4 beacuse you can't launch the bike
now before you start saying oh it is only a 600 most 600s around the track here that are not straped or lowerd can barrely turn a high 12, i'm at 11.75 750s are at low12s it's all about the launch and 1ks are turing mid to low 11s
it is not hard to beat a bike if you have a ****ty rider or even a great rider will loose a race to to high power car also bikes have very ****ty aerodamincs example if you have a vette and a bike with the same power to weight the vette will take it top end.

i love my bike and i love my cars i love high horsepower cars beacuse you get slamed back in the seat i just love it, i love bikes beacuse well there just damn fun to ride i hope this helps out.

um bikes are def beatable..... ive been in my dads car when we spanked an r1, rc51, and gsxr1000.... and it was always from a dig..... it all depends on how well ur car hooks up..... i gaurantee u when the 300 shot is put on the car this summer the nova will absolutley rape a hyabusa.... i dont care if ur a professional bike racer i know what those bikes run in the quarter and they will get spanked.... and btw he payed 8 grand for the nova and will have about 3500 in it this summer..... which equals out to $11,500.... what would u rather have? a toy u can take ur freind for a ride without lookin gay or go out drivin by urself? or u could put another gy on the back of ur bike and look like a peter puffer, its up to u i guess.
ORIGINAL: Jiggy_One

Maybe your buddy needs to learn how to ride that R1. A fully modded 750 is a 600 with a slightly bored out motor. Not impressed. You got a bike with 130 hp, what about a liter bike with 160 hp with more torque and a few lbs lighter. You guys are so ****ed up. Bikes are not invincable, but I can get one from the dealer bone stock for $10k and spank vipers with it. Your KB cobra has been beaten. I got a buddy with a 2.2l kb with a bunch of supporting mods and he can beat 600 from a roll. From a dig hes spanked. He cannot beat me from any roll. I can go 0-160 in about 12-13 sec. Can U? nope. I can go 80 - 100 in about 2.5 sec....can u??? NOPE. I can run the quarter in 10 flat.....u cant do that. Oh, and Im stock. With bikes, you can maybe get an extra 15 horse from a "fully modded" bike. I love cobras, and they love to spank my GT. BUT, when they get mouthy like you JD, I pull out the bike show them what fast is. Like what was just posted, somebody is always faster than me......maybe if that have a turbo zx10 that is....!!! I still have not met a street legal car in my town that could put the smack down on a literbike. Thats Chicago.... GO SOX!!

:D

dont even bring up the petty experience thing cause thats the dumbest thing u could have said considering those cars are very good at accelerating like a streetable drag car is built to do..... nascar cars are no where near bike acceleration

Ok....I have to get in on this..lol.

I can see a car beating a bike no prob...After your are done dumping a whole pile of money into anything, you can beat a bike. I have seen a souped up pinto at a track kill an R1. That was hilarious to see. I don't see what everybody is arguing about, yeah sure bikes are fast as @#$@ off the showroom floor, but if you are up against a modded up race car, or low 9s car, game over for ya bud. Hell I got a busa and will testify to that (though I haven't been beaten yet [8D]).

Bang for your buck the bike is where its at. 11k for a busa and you are running 9's stock (as long as you know how to ride) however, buying an 03-04 Cobra, then the KB, then exhaust yadda yadda yadda big time $$$$ to run 9's.

I think this thread should get locked soon, because all it is getting is people arguing and fighting with eachother. AND FOR ALL US BIKE GUYS, you have to realize there are gonna be faster cars than your bike out there, get over it.

Just to stir the pot a little bit........:D

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/hayabusa/0/79B3E168-C4C3-410A-950C-E8B5BAE31AC9.htm