i didn't say they were on every street corner, obviously. but dang dude they are some out there, maybe that video was just one of them. i'm not arguing that busas are slow, they're hella fast, i'm just saying that there are some cars out there that can beat em' ...it took me like 2 minutes of googling to find a street car that runs 8s... on top of it, it was a stang, does it on drag radials (not slicks) and is driven by a 24 year old girl
Congrats on searching the world to find a drag car that can beat one. Dont run into many drags cars in traffic. Not sure why car guys are so hurt that there is something faster than their car out there that cost a fraction as much. And how many of these 8-9 sec cars are dd? less than 1% would be my guess.
Exactly, and if you are giving that supra in the vid a ton of boost more than stock, give the zx10 a turbo setup. And like what was said above, this conversation is over. Remember, a stock ZX10 is around 155hp and 400Lbs, give it an extra 75-100 hp and its pretty much untouchable on the street...roll or dig.
i didn't say they were on every street corner, obviously. but dang dude they are some out there, maybe that video was just one of them. i'm not arguing that busas are slow, they're hella fast, i'm just saying that there are some cars out there that can beat em' ...it took me like 2 minutes of googling to find a street car that runs 8s... on top of it, it was a stang, does it on drag radials (not slicks) and is driven by a 24 year old girl
Congrats on searching the world to find a drag car that can beat one. Dont run into many drags cars in traffic. Not sure why car guys are so hurt that there is something faster than their car out there that cost a fraction as much. And how many of these 8-9 sec cars are dd? less than 1% would be my guess.
Exactly, and if you are giving that supra in the vid a ton of boost more than stock, give the zx10 a turbo setup. And like what was said above, this conversation is over. Remember, a stock ZX10 is around 155hp and 400Lbs, give it an extra 75-100 hp and its pretty much untouchable on the street...roll or dig.
you guys are rediculouswaaa put a turbo on the busa and game over!!! that's not the point. the point is that you guys called bs on a car beating a busa, and you are wrong. it can and does happen....end of story. nobody said a bike isn't crazy fast off the showroom floor. btw there is a video on this site of a black tt viper killing a stock busa and then beating both a turbo and a nitrous busa on some crazy long straight road somewhere in the desert if you care to look for it
you guys are rediculouswaaa put a turbo on the busa and game over!!! that's not the point. the point is that you guys called bs on a car beating a busa, and you are wrong. it can and does happen....end of story. nobody said a bike isn't crazy fast off the showroom floor. btw there is a video on this site of a black tt viper killing a stock busa and then beating both a turbo and a nitrous busa on some crazy long straight road somewhere in the desert if you care to look for it [/quote]
Yes, i would want to see that as well. I would just have to see it to beleive it. i would hope a $100K viper can take most things on the street (turbo busa? please) How many people here or out there have those cars? Few and faaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr between. I just call BS on these people with a Cobra with exhaust and pullies claiming they are stomping all modern liter and above bikes. If we are going with basically a full race car beating a street bike, then lets get Matt Hines on his Harley (!) and stomp everything. Any car that could take a bike of that caliber is going to be nursed back into it's garage where the keys will hang til the next weekend or so. This is going on so long, i am even forgetting the point we are arguing about
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hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now?
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hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now?
hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now?
hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now?
go back and read idiot, that is not my point.
woah name calling...that always gets your point across if you're point is the whole pullied cobras running with liter bikes (jdan) his cobra is far from just a pulley and exhaust...kb for starters
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hahaha gotta love the bike guys, you givr them vids, links, timeslips, names, basically all the proof in the world and they still have an argument... allrighty then, you win, buying a busa will make you the fastest person in the street... no car can ever beat you, happy now?
go back and read idiot, that is not my point.
i read it all, and i have come to the conclusion that you have no interesting argument .. just alot of and
Well I am a service manager of a Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Victory dealership, and a ZX10, and R1 only run in the 10s stock. A car can easily take either of those. Same with the busa, high 9's low 10s. If there is a bike you should be happy about beating, it's the Victory Hammer, or the Yamaha V-max, those are the two fastest bikes on our showroom. The zx10, R1, and busa are no match for those two sport tour models in the 1/4... Top speed, yes, but in the 1/4 no match.
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^^^ Personally, I would rather have a V-Max than a crotch rocket any day. The whole thing is, it takes a little work and a lot of skill to get most cars into the 10's and 9's in the 1/4. The fact that alot of these sport bikes can do that right off the show room floor is exactly why they are so dangerous. And please don't give me that whole "the bike isn't dangerous, it's the person riding it that's dangerous" crap. That may be true, but tell me what's the logic behind having a bike that can do 190mph? Where and why would anyone, other than on a track, need to go that fast? So I will say to all you who are arguing on behalf of the "liter" bikes... congrats. You have a fast bike. WOW! Quite an accomplishment!
sorry i didn't read through the whole post but so this might have been said
all right i ride street bikes i have an 01 gsxr 600 that is making 108 horse at the wheel i take most 03 and older 750s in the 1/4 and stay right behind them top speed i have beaten a quite afew liter bikes in the 1/4 beacuse you can't launch the bike now before you start saying oh it is only a 600 most 600s around the track here that are not straped or lowerd can barrely turn a high 12, i'm at 11.75 750s are at low12s it's all about the launch and 1ks are turing mid to low 11s it is not hard to beat a bike if you have a ****ty rider or even a great rider will loose a race to to high power car also bikes have very ****ty aerodamincs example if you have a vette and a bike with the same power to weight the vette will take it top end.
i love my bike and i love my cars i love high horsepower cars beacuse you get slamed back in the seat i just love it, i love bikes beacuse well there just damn fun to ride i hope this helps out.
um bikes are def beatable..... ive been in my dads car when we spanked an r1, rc51, and gsxr1000.... and it was always from a dig..... it all depends on how well ur car hooks up..... i gaurantee u when the 300 shot is put on the car this summer the nova will absolutley rape a hyabusa.... i dont care if ur a professional bike racer i know what those bikes run in the quarter and they will get spanked.... and btw he payed 8 grand for the nova and will have about 3500 in it this summer..... which equals out to $11,500.... what would u rather have? a toy u can take ur freind for a ride without lookin gay or go out drivin by urself? or u could put another gy on the back of ur bike and look like a peter puffer, its up to u i guess.
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Maybe your buddy needs to learn how to ride that R1. A fully modded 750 is a 600 with a slightly bored out motor. Not impressed. You got a bike with 130 hp, what about a liter bike with 160 hp with more torque and a few lbs lighter. You guys are so ****ed up. Bikes are not invincable, but I can get one from the dealer bone stock for $10k and spank vipers with it. Your KB cobra has been beaten. I got a buddy with a 2.2l kb with a bunch of supporting mods and he can beat 600 from a roll. From a dig hes spanked. He cannot beat me from any roll. I can go 0-160 in about 12-13 sec. Can U? nope. I can go 80 - 100 in about 2.5 sec....can u??? NOPE. I can run the quarter in 10 flat.....u cant do that. Oh, and Im stock. With bikes, you can maybe get an extra 15 horse from a "fully modded" bike. I love cobras, and they love to spank my GT. BUT, when they get mouthy like you JD, I pull out the bike show them what fast is. Like what was just posted, somebody is always faster than me......maybe if that have a turbo zx10 that is....!!! I still have not met a street legal car in my town that could put the smack down on a literbike. Thats Chicago.... GO SOX!!
dont even bring up the petty experience thing cause thats the dumbest thing u could have said considering those cars are very good at accelerating like a streetable drag car is built to do..... nascar cars are no where near bike acceleration
I can see a car beating a bike no prob...After your are done dumping a whole pile of money into anything, you can beat a bike. I have seen a souped up pinto at a track kill an R1. That was hilarious to see. I don't see what everybody is arguing about, yeah sure bikes are fast as @#$@ off the showroom floor, but if you are up against a modded up race car, or low 9s car, game over for ya bud. Hell I got a busa and will testify to that (though I haven't been beaten yet ).
Bang for your buck the bike is where its at. 11k for a busa and you are running 9's stock (as long as you know how to ride) however, buying an 03-04 Cobra, then the KB, then exhaust yadda yadda yadda big time $$$$ to run 9's.
I think this thread should get locked soon, because all it is getting is people arguing and fighting with eachother. AND FOR ALL US BIKE GUYS, you have to realize there are gonna be faster cars than your bike out there, get over it.