I find this hard to believe..I have a Rf900rr,which is not the fastest bike.I have stage 3 jet kit,3 and 5 degree ignition advancer,Vance&Hines ss2r and geared 2 teeth up in the rear.I kill 2003 cobras all day long,I have been riding for 20 years,but no direspect to the stang, a Busa is just plain nasty....You could watch the video and see that guy on the bike was clueless Point 1.Never seen the front of the bike lift very much from the slower stars.2.He used the clutch,anyone who races bikes never uses a clutch.Just drop the rpm a hair and bang her into the next,less wear and tear on clutch and much quicker back into the power....
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You guys find it so hard to believe but you have a GSXR 1000 rider two posts above this one that said a Cobra almost clipped his FRONT END at 155 mph. Obvisously he was in front of the bike... meaning he was pulling. No disrespect to you, FastToysForLife. Just explained it that way. Most of you guys that "find it hard to believe" or dont believe it at all has evidently NEVER been in a fast car. Anyhoo... I guess I will have to make a video of my own.
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You guys find it so hard to believe but you have a GSXR 1000 rider two posts above this one that said a Cobra almost clipped his FRONT END at 155 mph. Obvisously he was in front of the bike... meaning he was pulling. No disrespect to you, FastToysForLife. Just explained it that way. Most of you guys that "find it hard to believe" or dont believe it at all has evidently NEVER been in a fast car. Anyhoo... I guess I will have to make a video of my own.
Please do so...because i would love to see what your car is all about. If its as fast as you say it is, its gonna be a monster. Since your friend has the R1, you should put out a video of your car vs the R1.....I think everyone agree with me on this one. JD Right now i could only see it to believe it. ??????
Again, depends on rider skill (a new R1 can wheelie at 120 mph, so a bad rider would be too chicken to give it full throttle at lower speeds, say 70 mph, especailly on a Busa).
The most well know car vs bike video floating around is a supercharged 833 rwhp Viper against a bunch of Busas and a ZX-12r. The Viper could tie a dead stock Busa, but gets walked by everthing else. The Busa on spray made the Viper look like a Kia.
With no info on how much hp that Mustang had, we really can't say. But to beat a Busa with a good rider you'll need to trap atleast 150 mph, or very high 140's. Even the new Gixxer 1000 can hit 125 mph in 7.5 seconds, so they're definetly tough to beat.
you say you're zx10 can run 10's in the quarter... but can you?? why do i ask? yamaha sponsered an event at atco where anyone with a yamaha gets in for free. my gf's dad has a vmax so we went. stock vmax's making 10 second passes were destroying the r1's all day long. very few r1's made it in the 10's....since nobody could keep the front end down. you can't go on times made from a professional driver. by the way... a 72 year old man on a vmax had the quickest pass with a mid-high 9. i've never raced a busa... but i've never had a problem with a bike in my stang....yet
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650HP and you stay side by side with an R1!? i figure you would walk all over it with that kind of power... maybe you have 650HP peak. but not consistent?
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that was not real, That bike wasnt even trying. it was a 1300
Why was it not real? My car has 650 hp and will stay side by side with a R1! Im sure the fox is a million lbs lighter, so it wouldnt surprise me at all to get rolled out on by one with a turbo.
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ugh......Lets just say cool vid and get it over with. There are too many variables for any of us to know what really happened unless the author is on this site. Don't know the rider skill and we don't know what is in the car. Could be staged or not, the bike is fast the car is fast. I hate it when forums turn into a pissing contest... Later.
dude its a TURBOMUSTANG, do you understand what that means? thats serious power, ive seen a few videos of single turbo supras spranking busa's, ive seen a few mustangs sprank busa's but its happens. These are turbo torque monsters, u just dont **** with them on the highway so until you can show yourselves (bike racers) beating a fully built turbo set up mustang on the highway then dont talk. No disrespect by the way, bikes are awesome.
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650HP and you stay side by side with an R1!? i figure you would walk all over it with that kind of power... maybe you have 650HP peak. but not consistent?
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that was not real, That bike wasnt even trying. it was a 1300
Why was it not real? My car has 650 hp and will stay side by side with a R1! Im sure the fox is a million lbs lighter, so it wouldnt surprise me at all to get rolled out on by one with a turbo.
ill go get my friend michael shcumacer's F1 car and beat you all. for this topic about cars being faster than bikes... they are faster. Honda Motorsports (HoMo) put on a show on speed tv where they took a honda cbr1000rr , BAR honda F1 car, and a honda powered boat to see hoo was faster. of course the boat didnt hardley move. the bike beat the F1 car off the line and when the car caught traction it beat it by 3-4 lengths in the 1320. the bike was a formula race series bike.
ill go get my friend michael shcumacer's F1 car and beat you all. for this topic about cars being faster than bikes... they are faster. Honda Motorsports (HoMo) put on a show on speed tv where they took a honda cbr1000rr , BAR honda F1 car, and a honda powered boat to see hoo was faster. of course the boat didnt hardley move. the bike beat the F1 car off the line and when the car caught traction it beat it by 3-4 lengths in the 1320. the bike was a formula race series bike.
Ok, since when did we start comparing F1 cars?
Those things are unbeatable by anything on a track (the turning type). Their top end is unbelieveable. R&T got a Jaguar F1 to go 0 to 160 mph in 6.6 seconds!
They do the 1/4 mile at 9.3s trapping 181 mph. Some Lingenfelters will hang in the 1/4 mile, but gets dusted by the trap.
Well because I own both bikes I will make a comment. I have a 2004 R1 and a 2005 Busa. The Busa walks all over the R1 like it was standing still. The R1 has no torque at all, 1st gear is hard to use because once you hit around 7500 rpm's the front end starts to go towards the sky and becomes useless, then you have to short shift into second. The Busa can be launched hard and run all the way through 1st gear with no problems.
With my buddy riding my R1 and Me riding the Busa in all the races we tried....The Busa walks all over the R1.
It takes a lot more than 650 HP in a car to take out a BUSA that is actually trying. Hell On New years day I destroyed a Stock Viper GTS from a 40 mph roll like he was standing still.
Now if you are talking about older R1's or older street bikes that are running carbs with no fuel injection, then it is possible that 650 HP might get it done. But no way is it going to get it done for any Stock Busa that is actually rying to race.
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It takes a lot more than 650 HP in a car to take out a BUSA that is actually trying. Hell On New years day I destroyed a Stock Viper GTS from a 40 mph roll like he was standing still.
you're comparing a 3000lbs fox with 650rwhp to a 3700lbs car with 450 crank hp... HUGE difference. that viper would need almost double its power to keep up with that fox. i've seen plenty of mustang vids keeping up and beating busas, i've even seen a couple at the track too... a busa is what low 10s ? there are some street driven stangs in the low 9s ~ high 8s ...they're rare but they do exist.
Another staged vid of a bike vs car kill. I have a literbike and I can tell you that I'd have to be on that bike getting beat by the car before I'd believe it. I've raced a few 03/04 cobras with KB and whipple swaps in the 600hp range from a dig and all kinds of rolls and they NEVER had a shot. I got a almost completely stock zx10. Its funny to see these vids. If we raced from a 100+ roll would be the only way a car like that would be able to pull on a modern liter bike. But, this is a car forum and i'll probably get flamed. I should get a couple of vids of me spanking some cars like that, than maybe it will show you peeps that think cars like that and those turds called supras are even close to a match of a new liter bike.
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i agree, a busa should be about 6-6.5 secs (stock) to 100 with a decent rider, the thing will do 85 in first gear. IF this guys is running 9s then that is going to be mighty close. I think it is funny when car guys think they can stomp everything including a bike, it is just physics. A well set up liter bike is probably pushing 180+rwhp with less than 600 lbs (assuming not a tub of a rider.) power to weight, little over 3. 600rwhp car, 3000 lbs (light car) is 5 to 1. equal qualified drivers, physically impossible, bike will walk everytime.
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