RE: WOOHOO! Drove a Supercharged V6 today!!!
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RE: WOOHOO! Drove a Supercharged V6 today!!! - 10/26/2005 9:04:46 PM
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scrming
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ORIGINAL: FightingIllini
I just put in a ProCharger...Smoked a stock GT... Will get pictures and a video up as soon as I get a new digital Camera...If you guys are going to invest in anything...let me highly suggest the procharger...AMAZING...
Very cool... we'll be interesting to see how well everything holds up.... Do you happen to have any dyno sheets? What PSI is it running? Any chance you'll be taking it to the track?
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RE: WOOHOO! Drove a Supercharged V6 today!!! - 10/27/2005 12:55:06 PM
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cman332001
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I thought the ATI procharger cam with its own CAI, did u need a special tune over and beyond what the kits comes with? That hood is bada$$ btw- when I get the extra cash and upgrade to a blower that is the hood to get...
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RE: WOOHOO! Drove a Supercharged V6 today!!! - 10/28/2005 6:24:23 AM
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FightingIllini
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Thanks Man...Its a California Dreamhood from RKS...The Picture there is the one off the website i don't have a digital Camera Yet... However, I love the hood, The car in the pic is the same color and look so I use it... It's great quality and and looks factory made after installation... To the other question the Procharger does come with a CAI, However with a Predator and a little Reflash trial and error, you can get a great deal more power out of the Brute Force. Plus it just looks so badass ( The Brutal ).
Got a question has anybody seen any decent twin turbo kits out there. Go a buddy who want to twin turbo his???
Next Person to put the Procharger on....get a set of Shorty Headers put in...I don't understand why but it was highly suggested by the company. Typically I would think it would be a ploy to buy more crap from them, but they don't make headers... So just a possible Heads up
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2005 V6 Mustang, Procharger, Dual Evol Exhaust, AEM Brute Force CAI, RKS California Dream Hood, Quarter Window Scoops.
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RE: WOOHOO! Drove a Supercharged V6 today!!! - 10/28/2005 6:50:37 PM
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scrming
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ORIGINAL: FightingIllini
Thanks Man...Its a California Dreamhood from RKS...The Picture there is the one off the website i don't have a digital Camera Yet... However, I love the hood, The car in the pic is the same color and look so I use it... It's great quality and and looks factory made after installation... To the other question the Procharger does come with a CAI, However with a Predator and a little Reflash trial and error, you can get a great deal more power out of the Brute Force. Plus it just looks so badass ( The Brutal ).
Got a question has anybody seen any decent twin turbo kits out there. Go a buddy who want to twin turbo his???
Next Person to put the Procharger on....get a set of Shorty Headers put in...I don't understand why but it was highly suggested by the company. Typically I would think it would be a ploy to buy more crap from them, but they don't make headers... So just a possible Heads up
yep, I think you'll see a twin turbo kit like maybe after the 1st of the year...
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RE: WOOHOO! Drove a Supercharged V6 today!!! - 10/29/2005 8:34:50 AM
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flapjack
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Sorry it took so long to write back. Working nights and having this site blocked from work (USAF) will do that to ya.... :P
Good points. Advice taken. I still feel that the opportunity for disaster is great with squirting than with blowing, heheh (By definition, that was a PUN. Please, PLEASE don't anyone take that the wrong way! You know what the *#$!@ I meant!). This of course, is my opinion and I'm entitled to it.... as you're entitled to yours. To tell you the truth, if I had my way I'd do both!!
As for one of the earlier comments.... I'm curious as to how an aircooled intercooler can possibly cool better than watercooled one. Physics stands against you here. Water has a much higher thermal capacity than air. Whether sitting at idle or doing 100 mph, watercooling beats air cooling any day. ....especially since the water is cooled by the air. Now, if you're worried about another part going bad, I can totally understand that. The watercooled intercooler uses an electric pump, which of course would be subject to failure.
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ORIGINAL: scrming
I have in fact seen a production S/C units take out a motor... justa few weeks ago as a matter of fact...
Doing some research... forced induction seems to have multiple meanings... some consider nitrous FI... some don't.. some would call it "chemcially supercharged".. LOL! I've seen talk about FI being anything that increases cylinder pressure which would include nitrous... LOL!
My fault.. I should have clarified myself... A properly installed nitrous setup with all the latest safety devices, WOT switch, window switch, fuel pressure safety switch, etc. is a pretty safe choice...
And yes, everyone knew the word "stock" was implied... about beating any GT... but that's not what was said... I'm just saying don't be surprise when people respond the way they do when you make those kinds of statements... Just like your generalizations about S/C and nitrous... Your broad statements make it sound like you think that every S/C and Turbo on the market is 100% safe for your car while every nitrous kit will result in melted pistion or bent rods... I'm not trying to put words your mouth... but that is the impression people are left with when you make broad generalizations.. Thank you for taking the time to reply and clearing up my misunderstanding...
The main point is when people make these blanket statements, like the example I had, "V6 = slow" you cannot be surpised if you get a defensive response...I've been guilty of it in the past... I try now to be more aware of it...
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RE: WOOHOO! Drove a Supercharged V6 today!!! - 10/29/2005 8:43:52 AM
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flapjack
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Sorry, I didn't take the time to read your sig. That being said, I'm a V8 guy myself. But after owning a V8 Avalanche since 2002, the GT didn't really make sense to me. We needed a second vehicle, and I knew I could get more power out of it later if I wanted. I agree, the GT guys can be ANIMALS.... but there are definitely some really cool ones out there. The way I see it, there should be no animosity between any Mustang owners. Hell, if it wasn't for the V6 owners, the Mustang would've gone the way of the Camaro (at least they're bringing it back....).
Of course, if a GT owner was willing to do a similar mod, it would always outpace the V6 owner. When it comes right down to it, the person with the most displacement will usually have the most options for making power. That being said, the majority of GT owners are going to stick with normal aspiration.... as will the V6 guys most likely. However, I think it safe to say that with this kit, or any other similar performing SC/TC, a V6 owner will suprise the hell out of the majority of GT owners.
That is of course, until we tangle with a supercharged GT!!!
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ORIGINAL: jthorn9
Allright flapjack, it sounds as if you infering that I have a GT, well read my post, I have a modified 98 "V6," don't talk to me as if I was one of those V8 aholes, now I'm not saying all V8ers are aholes, but some of them can be ruthless and relentless when talking to sixers and vice versa with sixers talking about GTs. Now back to my statment, I ment that a GT can get the same hp gains as a V6 can with less money invested since they have more stock power, now the older 94-98s will basically be a draw in the long run they are toast, the 99-04s have a slight edge, but would be a good match, the 05-06s will always win as long as the car is modified just enough to put out the eqivilent hp, that's all I ment, I didn't say that a modified 6 would just hang with the Gts or just barely win, they would blow them away with a super or turbocharger. And refering to the new nos thing, nos "can" damage or destroy your engine and so can a super or turbo charger, but the odds are fairly low as long as you do engine and transmission matenence regualarly. Now even maintence doesn't gurantee anything, but it does help. Just to let you know I know a guy that had a 99 V6 stang that blew his #3 and 4 cylinders right out of his hood after doing a shot of nos. Now he was a racer, a real one, and he did maintence regularly, but stuff does happen, but for everyday use you should be OK, but like I said stuff happens.
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RE: WOOHOO! Drove a Supercharged V6 today!!! - 10/29/2005 10:58:02 AM
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TJ
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The way I see it, there should be no animosity between any Mustang owners. Hell, if it wasn't for the V6 owners, the Mustang would've gone the way of the Camaro (at least they're bringing it back....).
Of course, if a GT owner was willing to do a similar mod, it would always outpace the V6 owner. When it comes right down to it, the person with the most displacement will usually have the most options for making power. That being said, the majority of GT owners are going to stick with normal aspiration.... as will the V6 guys most likely. However, I think it safe to say that with this kit, or any other similar performing SC/TC, a V6 owner will suprise the hell out of the majority of GT owners.
That is of course, until we tangle with a supercharged GT!!!
What a great post! I couldn't agree more with(everything said) your post.
This post reminds me I always ran BB's cheys HP, TQ & CC's (427 in a 69Z/28/LS-6 454/70Chevelle SS) in my street racing days I wouldn't even consider buying a small block ( I know they can wind up & hold together better) you would have to build a small block just to get the power my engines performed stock and they were not stock. Same analogy (owner was willing to do a similar mod) you posted is the way I looked at with my street cars. There was no animosity between small block guys and big block guys in our city we got along great.
The above post by you is why you can completely understand why most GT guys wouldn't even consider a 6 and I would agree with them.
That being said since my street freinds (all married SUV's) & racing days are over I picked up a six with a stick for kicks and I love the little guy.
I think 99% of the GT guys here have been totaly cool with the V 6 guys from what I have read at least here at Mustang forums.
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RE: WOOHOO! Drove a Supercharged V6 today!!! - 10/29/2005 4:51:10 PM
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scrming
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ORIGINAL: flapjack
Sorry it took so long to write back. Working nights and having this site blocked from work (USAF) will do that to ya.... :P
Good points. Advice taken. I still feel that the opportunity for disaster is great with squirting than with blowing, heheh (By definition, that was a PUN. Please, PLEASE don't anyone take that the wrong way! You know what the *#$!@ I meant!). This of course, is my opinion and I'm entitled to it.... as you're entitled to yours. To tell you the truth, if I had my way I'd do both!!
As for one of the earlier comments.... I'm curious as to how an aircooled intercooler can possibly cool better than watercooled one. Physics stands against you here. Water has a much higher thermal capacity than air. Whether sitting at idle or doing 100 mph, watercooling beats air cooling any day. ....especially since the water is cooled by the air. Now, if you're worried about another part going bad, I can totally understand that. The watercooled intercooler uses an electric pump, which of course would be subject to failure.
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ORIGINAL: scrming
I have in fact seen a production S/C units take out a motor... justa few weeks ago as a matter of fact...
Doing some research... forced induction seems to have multiple meanings... some consider nitrous FI... some don't.. some would call it "chemcially supercharged".. LOL! I've seen talk about FI being anything that increases cylinder pressure which would include nitrous... LOL!
My fault.. I should have clarified myself... A properly installed nitrous setup with all the latest safety devices, WOT switch, window switch, fuel pressure safety switch, etc. is a pretty safe choice...
And yes, everyone knew the word "stock" was implied... about beating any GT... but that's not what was said... I'm just saying don't be surprise when people respond the way they do when you make those kinds of statements... Just like your generalizations about S/C and nitrous... Your broad statements make it sound like you think that every S/C and Turbo on the market is 100% safe for your car while every nitrous kit will result in melted pistion or bent rods... I'm not trying to put words your mouth... but that is the impression people are left with when you make broad generalizations.. Thank you for taking the time to reply and clearing up my misunderstanding...
The main point is when people make these blanket statements, like the example I had, "V6 = slow" you cannot be surpised if you get a defensive response...I've been guilty of it in the past... I try now to be more aware of it...
Was at Alternative Auto today... We double checked my spark plugs just for good measure... after about at least a couple dozen 1/4 mile runs and a bunch of dyno pulls the plugs looked good... no sign of burning or anything... I was kind of concerned since some of the GT guys had burned their plugs up... not my case... Lidio also noted that the V6 seems to be running colder plug stock... So for now I'm feeling pretty good about running the 100HP shot... We also did a couple of pulls on the dyno... With the new tires and spraying a little earlier the car went 384 on the Torque!!! I'll post sheet later...
While I was there we were talking about Lidio's setup... He runs a Vortech in his 05 GT. He added Methanol injection... Lowered his intake temp by 100 degrees!!!
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