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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/16/2006 7:31:25 PM   
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Well ive read the entire thread about the different types of exhausts n systems available, and ive basically decided to attempt the true dual set up, buy some GT cut offs and buy a set of FORCE mufflers from summitracing.com. the only question i have is about the H or X pipe, will i need to buy one on the internet prior to taking my car into the shop for installation, or can i simply take my car, the take off's, and the mufflers into the shop and have them fabricate a custom pipe for me during installation? also im looking to spend less than $300 with system installed.

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/16/2006 11:49:09 PM   
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WELL AS I SAID BEFORE... U CAN GET BOLT ON PIPES N TAKE THE CATS ON N OFF... THATS IF U WANT AN EXTRA 20 HP N A LOUDER CAR... BUT IF U WANNA KEEP IT "LEGAL" THEN GO AHEAD N WASTE UR MONEY.... BUT YEAH U CAN GO AHEAD N DO THAT.... N X OR H PIPES DONT REALLY HELP THAT MUCH UNLESS ITS A V8 BUT U CAN GO AHEAD N WASTE UR MONEY TOO.... I SUGGEST DOING WHAT I SAID IN PAGE 8.... BUT THAT ONLY GOES TO PPL WHO WANT MORE HP N LOUDER SYSTEM....

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/16/2006 11:53:39 PM   
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Dude if you think you got 20 hp, then you're sadly mistaken. You may of gained a maximum of 8 hp, hell GTs only gain 15 or so hp with a really good aftermarket system. Oh, yea, your idea is OK, but my thing is if you're gonna do it, then do it right, x and h pipes do nothing for hp on a V6 but they can drastically modify the sound of your car. Also, there are many more muffler brands out there, some way better than Flows, so don't limit your reccommendations to just one idea or brand, instead you need to learn to offer all ideas availible and let the person doing the mod make up their own mind.

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/16/2006 11:57:49 PM   
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OK.. FIRST OF ALL I'M NOT FORCING ANYONE TO DO IT... N YES.. THOSE R MY RECOMMENDATIONS CUZ THEYRE ASKNG FOR IT.. N THATS ADVICE.. NOW.. THERES TONS OF OTHER OPINONS OUT THERE SO THEY DONT HAVE TO DO WHAT I SAY.... N YES U DONT GET 20 HP BUT ITS CLOSE.. I GOT MINE N IT GAVE ME 17 HP... IT ALL DEPENDS HOW U DO IT... N NOTHING WILL GIVE U A LOUDER SOUND THAN STR8 PIPES... BUT ONCE AGAIN... THATS MY ADVICE... THEYRE ASKING FOR IT N I'M GIVING IT TO THEM.. THEY DONT HAVE TO DO WHAT I SAY CUZ I AINT FORCING NO ONE....

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/17/2006 12:10:29 AM   
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Yea, maybe 17 hp with all of your other mods, but point is, unless you're s/c or t/c, you will not gain any more than 8-10 hp, "AT BEST" with dual exhaust, period. Like I said, GTs only gain 15 hp "AT BEST" but they adverage about 12 hp. I respect your post, but remember, not everybody wants a loud sound, hell, in most cases, loud=rice on n/a v6s, not saying you're rice, but a lot of people just want load, run out there, get the wrong exhaust set up, and then sit back and wonder, what the hell was I thinking. All I'm saying is watch how you reccommend set ups, that's all.

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/17/2006 12:20:18 AM   
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YEAH... THAT IS WHY I SPECIFIED.. IF U DO THAT THAT'LL GIVE U HP N A LOUD SYSTEM... I SPECIFIED WHAT IT'LL DO... BUT YEAH IF THEY WANT A DECENT N GOOD SYSTEM THEN YEAH THEY CAN GO AHEAD AN BUT AN X PIPE N A CAT BACK... BUT I GOT SOME 30 HP N MINE BUT JUST PUTTING A K&N FIPK2 INTAKE, A SMALLER UNDER/DRIVE PULLEY, BBK SHORT HEADERS, N STR8 PIPES WITH DUAL EXHAUST N CUT THEM AFTER THE FLOWMASTER N PUT A PIPE POINTING DOWNWARDS... N IT SOUNDS AS LOUD AS A GT.. N NOT VERY RICIE... SO... THATS WHAT I DID N IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT UR LOOKING FOR.. BUT THIS MODS WILL GIVE U SOME HP N A PRETTY LOUD SYSTEM...

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/17/2006 12:24:03 AM   
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30 hp, you better go set that thing on a dyno and prove it as the pulleys would of freed up about 8 hp at best, the cai, maybe 3 at best, the exhaust 8 at best, the headers, maybe 2 at best for a grand totall of 21 hp "AT BEST" i'd bet around 15 hp.

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/27/2006 12:01:27 AM   
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Im new to the forums and just happen to find then thread when looking for help on mustang exhaust; imagine my luck. :) I ordered the Pypes SFM53 system for my 95 mustang 3.8 per their recommendation and they told me it would fit without trouble; however during installation I noticed that the hangers on the tips seem to be in the wrong direction without any way to mount the hanger supports and there is a hydraulic line that goes from mid passanger side axel to chassis and it appears to rub on the passanger exhaust pipe bend which makes me nervous. Has anyone heard of these problems or happens to know if there is modifications required for the the aforementioned hydraulic line?

Thanks for the help as I am currently stuck without a car. :(

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/28/2006 6:10:53 PM   
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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/28/2006 6:16:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: simio312

OK.. FIRST OF ALL I'M NOT FORCING ANYONE TO DO IT... N YES.. THOSE R MY RECOMMENDATIONS CUZ THEYRE ASKNG FOR IT.. N THATS ADVICE.. NOW.. THERES TONS OF OTHER OPINONS OUT THERE SO THEY DONT HAVE TO DO WHAT I SAY.... N YES U DONT GET 20 HP BUT ITS CLOSE.. I GOT MINE N IT GAVE ME 17 HP... IT ALL DEPENDS HOW U DO IT... N NOTHING WILL GIVE U A LOUDER SOUND THAN STR8 PIPES... BUT ONCE AGAIN... THATS MY ADVICE... THEYRE ASKING FOR IT N I'M GIVING IT TO THEM.. THEY DONT HAVE TO DO WHAT I SAY CUZ I AINT FORCING NO ONE....
Lets see the dyno sheets for before and after. Even then I'm still gonna say
Oh and drop the caps for cripes sake....

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 4/28/2006 6:17:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: simio312

YEAH... THAT IS WHY I SPECIFIED.. IF U DO THAT THAT'LL GIVE U HP N A LOUD SYSTEM... I SPECIFIED WHAT IT'LL DO... BUT YEAH IF THEY WANT A DECENT N GOOD SYSTEM THEN YEAH THEY CAN GO AHEAD AN BUT AN X PIPE N A CAT BACK... BUT I GOT SOME 30 HP N MINE BUT JUST PUTTING A K&N FIPK2 INTAKE, A SMALLER UNDER/DRIVE PULLEY, BBK SHORT HEADERS, N STR8 PIPES WITH DUAL EXHAUST N CUT THEM AFTER THE FLOWMASTER N PUT A PIPE POINTING DOWNWARDS... N IT SOUNDS AS LOUD AS A GT.. N NOT VERY RICIE... SO... THATS WHAT I DID N IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT UR LOOKING FOR.. BUT THIS MODS WILL GIVE U SOME HP N A PRETTY LOUD SYSTEM...
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You aren't MattHockey by chance are you?

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 7/17/2006 1:16:13 AM   
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what would be a best true dual setup for my 02 V6 Mustang??? I'm planing on spending 450 on my exhaust

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 7/17/2006 1:27:29 AM   
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$450 installed? You will never get that unless you buy a used catback and have a POS job of it being installed.
My exhaust costed around $750 installed, all custom bent. I had all new piping done, from headers back. It consisted of: A stright pipe, then a custom x pipe right before the mufflers. I have MAC mufflers, and 3.5 rolled tips, no cats. This is a sick setup and is well worth it. I shelled out the extra money to go with an awesome exhaust shop in my area. It sounds real nice and i have absolutely no complains!

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 7/17/2006 2:15:49 AM   
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yeah i guess if the info you gave me was right i gota save up more money :) , I was planing on buying my own mufflers and let the shop do the rest

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 9/11/2006 7:07:04 PM   
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So I tore out the MAC system, was pissin me off too much. Went to the local muffler shop, had them rip out everything from the headers on back, throw away the CATs, toss in a custom offroad xpipe, some magnaflow mufflers, and I'm set. Absolutely LOVE it. It's got a great low rumble below 3k and after that, it gets LOUD. Not ricey really, just freakin ballsy.

My dad drives a 98 LS1 Vette with a Borla system thrown on; for the record, there's just no replacement for displacement. His car sounds like a fricken thunderstorm at idle. People gotta understand that our "little" 6-bangers wont magically sound good if you don't dump some cash into it; and even still, there's a limit to be reached.

Honestly, I'm in love with my setup. It's perfect for me. But don't make the mistake by going cheap and having it done incorrectly, either!

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 1/4/2007 9:27:19 PM   
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its a ways away but im getting mine in early march and for anyone in the phoenix az area i'm going to B&M mufflers and car repairs they are gonna hook me up with a true dual exhaust with flows and some sick chrome tips all out the door for $425. 

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 6/12/2007 2:34:34 PM   
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bump for being an informative thread

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 7/2/2007 2:06:15 AM   
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Anybody think this pypes violator kit (catted) would sound kool? Check the link. http://www.rpmoutlet.com/musv6ypcb.htm#1

Otherwise Im just gonna throw on a true dual GT bassani catbak with that catted X pype

Im getting sick of my ghetto empty stock cats. ppl tell me they sound like ****.

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 7/2/2007 10:20:16 AM   
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Pypes sounds like crap ass ola. Go with your original plans.

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RE: The One And Only Exhaust Thread - 7/2/2007 11:43:21 AM   
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Anyone have opinions on cherry bomb mufflers? just heard a sound clip that sounded pretty decent. Was wondering what the sound was like on different exhaust set-ups

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