donteventry....I said dam vette cause thats all you talk about in chevys line up.I have brought up the shelby cobra,cobra and ford gt and even mach 1 but all i hear from you is well this vette is coming and this one too.Thats fine because thats what we were talking about in the first place but when you say oh ford only has one car and wont hurt gm.When i said ford has the edge in performance i was not trying to say gm is going to loose alot of money or anything just that we have the bragging right as of right now.You talk about me being brand loyal and unable to believe ford doesnt make the best,well this whole time you have defended the vette with all you could so please you have shown just as much devotion as me.

wouldnt you agree?

own3dbyyou...The ford gt is a 2005 car that a fact,i will go on sail this year i do not think the same can be said about your z06 can it?

own3dbyyou...The ford gt is a 2005 car that a fact,i will go on sail this year i do not think the same can be said about your z06 can it?

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It'll be out in 06. Superior cars take longer to engineer.

[QUOTE=mach368]Own3dbyyou....by the way we are talking about brand new cars not old productions if we were we could bring up the 2000 cobra r and others.The camaro was a nice car but its gone now,so lets stay on cars that are acually still being produced.[/QUOTE]

wtf? I was talking about brand new cars and he cried foul on it. Now we can't even talk about cars that have already been produced and are in fact prowling the streets? Stop crying about every detail and just realize that I'm right.

[QUOTE=95LT1]'03 Cobra < '03 ZO6

'03 Mach 1 = '02 TA/Z28

'04 GT <<<<<<<< '02 TA/Z28

Shelby Concept < XV16 Vette Concept

Ford GT(yet to be produced) < '06 ZO6(yet to be produced)

That addresses all of your cars and concerns. Please tell me what the argument is again and how GM is losing some type of battle? [/QUOTE]

You forgot one comparison:

04 GT <<<<<< 02 WS6/SS

And when i said lets talk about cars that are still being produced that was the nice way of saying that for how ever good that camaro was it couldnt sell enough to make a real profet for gm.Besides all your numbers about the 04's dont really do they?September 29 the new ones go on sale,300hp gt's and that official and its this year not next year like your zo6 and theres still no real word as when we we ever see a camaro again.So please take your beaton down gm's the best comments and shut up,maby gm was the best a couple of years ago but this post and topic not to mention forum section is for the new breed of cars not your old camaros.You can circle around it all you like with your smug comments about the ford gt and your z06 coming the fact is as of this year you guys are second rung to ford.Oh and own3dbyyou..you forgot about the mach 1 when you made your comments about the 02 camaro,so that shows you really where not thinking when you wrote that post.So if your not thinking than your just trying to talk sh**t and if your just talking sh**t than save it.At least donteventry makes an argument,you jump in with your wise ass comments witch dont mean a dam thing.

I dont doubt there will be a new z06 but the number you know hp tq and others are not official.Calling names now?must have hit a nerve.This thread was mainly between me and donteventry,we were discussing witch campany has the edge but i can see how something like that would be a bit much for man like you,you know men known as

dumb asses!

And when i said lets talk about cars that are still being produced that was the nice way of saying that for how ever good that camaro was it couldnt sell enough to make a real profet for gm.[/QUOTE]

Not the buyers fault GM killed the Camaro. Buyers were buying the Camaro, they were just buying more of the Corvette. So whatever.

[QUOTE=mach368]Besides all your numbers about the 04's dont really do they?September 29 the new ones go on sale,300hp gt's and that official and its this year not next year like your zo6 and theres still no real word as when we we ever see a camaro again.[/QUOTE]

My numbers don't really what? I wasn't thinking? s**t you forgot to type in the whole point of that sentence. 300 hp GTs oh wow I'm impressed! GM put that much power into the Camaro in 1998, and now Ford is finally catching up...good for them, but they're still 6 years late.

[QUOTE=mach368]So please take your beaton down gm's the best comments and shut up,maby gm was the best a couple of years ago but this post and topic not to mention forum section is for the new breed of cars not your old camaros.[/QUOTE]

New Breed of cars? Wow that's fascinating because the Mustang is 40 years old. Last I knew it almost died off in 89 until Ford got off their lazy ass and built the SN95 platform which saved the company. Why'd it save the company? because Ford based their market around the Mustang instead of more than one performance car like Chevrolet. I've explained this once elsewhere but you don't pay attention so I didn't think you'd know what took place.

[QUOTE=mach368]You can circle around it all you like with your smug comments about the ford gt and your z06 coming the fact is as of this year you guys are second rung to ford.[/QUOTE]

Whatever mang...the C5 6 speed Vettes are still far superior to that of the 03 Cobra.

[QUOTE=mach368]Oh and own3dbyyou..you forgot about the mach 1 when you made your comments about the 02 camaro,so that shows you really where not thinking when you wrote that post.So if your not thinking than your just trying to talk sh**t and if your just talking sh**t than save it.At least donteventry makes an argument,you jump in with your wise ass comments witch dont mean a dam thing.[/QUOTE]

Sorry...

Mach I >>> Z28/SS

Mach I <<< C5 Corvette

I was thinking, but seeing as how the Mach I is some sort of limited edition run it hadn't crossed my mind. whoopty doo for you. Where was I talking s**t? I was stating facts. You my friend...are the one talking s**t thinking Ford is the top dawg and it owns all. Not me. I just feel GM has a superior product that is the Corvette, and the 03 Cobra was aimed at trying to take the title of best sports car from the Vette, but it failed. Now who do you claim is trying to play catch up?

LOL...just so you know you f***ing idiot the vette almost died to but ford came out with a new thunderbird in the 50's so chevy kept it around so they wouldnt look bad.How old are you?cause you talk out of your ass alot.

and if the camaro was selling and turning a profit and gm killed it any way than gm is one hell of a dumb ass company,or maby its easier to believe you are full of it like normal.

Yes i forgot to type the rest of the one sentence,sorry for that dumb asses like you make me angry.

Yes the mustang has finally cought up and fords smarter than gm cause we managed to keep the mustang around unlike your camaro.

Again i never said fords owns all but you gm guys think yourselfs and gm are(all) because i said ford beat gm this year and you take that as i said ford beats all?wow you guys really are delusional.

I NEVER SAID GM HAD TO PLAY CATCH UP TO COBRA YOU DUMBASS.Your current vette isnt s**t compared to the gt witch is why ford has you beat.

yeh. I think this'll be my last post. You simply do not listen to anything I have said. GM killed it because teh Corvette was out selling the Camaro, the Camaro was still selling...just not as much as the Corvette was. Get the point? Probably not. I know that I'm older than you because I have a High school diploma and I know how to spell. Ford kept the mustang because it's the only damn performance car it has. GM had the oppportunity to take away the Camaro and still have a performance car for the masses. You don't see that either? I don't care.

Oh well. It was funny while it lasted.

[QUOTE=mach368]Poor boy,i took buisness as my major and if a car company has a car thats selling and making a profet than they dont get rid of it.If you think thats talking s**t ask anyone who knows about buisness.I know gm sold camaros but just not enough.[/QUOTE]

Cool beans you took the most pointless course any College has to offer as a major. business... haha "you give me money, I give you product." Well s**t...thats what I was doing wrong. lol

I majored in network administration... "poor boy"