Is the new Corvette actually faster than the new Viper SRT-10, cause that just dont seem right to me.

Yes the ZO6 is but it's close, and it's faster than alot of cars that cost twice as much. It's a totaly different car than a regular Vette, it just looks the same.

but the normal vette isnt as fast

I just dont get it though. Why not just forge a regular C5 or C6 and throw a turbo on it. Pocket costs would be around $10,000 at the most and you would probably walk a new Z06. Well... until that new Z06 found a turbo kit. LOL

yeah, the new Z06 is a lil faster in all categories by like .2/.3. its not much, but its enuff. itd come down to driver.

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I just dont get it though. Why not just forge a regular C5 or C6 and throw a turbo on it. Pocket costs would be around $10,000 at the most and you would probably walk a new Z06. Well... until that new Z06 found a turbo kit. LOL

You still won't have the stiffer chassis, bigger brakes,lighter weight. Plus when you buy the ZO6 you get a nice factory warrenty and a car that can literally be drivin anywhere. Yes turbo on a forged C5/C6 might be faster but the point of the new Z06 is to have well rounded car.

[sm=exactly.gif] the warranty for the zo6 is the kicker...if you do all that to a stock c6, you can kiss that warranty goodbye...especially by adding a turbo kit

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I just dont get it though. Why not just forge a regular C5 or C6 and throw a turbo on it. Pocket costs would be around $10,000 at the most and you would probably walk a new Z06. Well... until that new Z06 found a turbo kit. LOL

You still won't have the stiffer chassis, bigger brakes,lighter weight. Plus when you buy the ZO6 you get a nice factory warrenty and a car that can literally be drivin anywhere. Yes turbo on a forged C5/C6 might be faster but the point of the new Z06 is to have well rounded car.



Good points and not to be arguative but it just seems like you can do all you want to a C5 or C6 suspension and power wise and still have a better car for under the price tag of a new Z06... and obvisously if you have the money to build such a car or even buy a new Z06 then the warranty doesnt mean crap anyhoo. Know what I mean?

you still don't have the technology and frame of the z06 no matter what you put on a c5. not to mention that the whole point is you can get that from the z06 right off the showroom floor with no changes, no warrenty issues and no inspection trouble.

It's kind of like saying why by an Enzo when you can biuld a C5 that runs as fast for a lot less..... because at the end of the day it's still not an enzo

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you still don't have the technology and frame of the z06 no matter what you put on a c5. not to mention that the whole point is you can get that from the z06 right off the showroom floor with no changes, no warrenty issues and no inspection trouble.

It's kind of like saying why by an Enzo when you can biuld a C5 that runs as fast for a lot less..... because at the end of the day it's still not an enzo



But thats like comparing apples to turds. A C6 and Z06 is basically the same car just with a few upgrades. A bigger engine with a lottle more power and this and that. I just cant believe that the price of a Vette is gonna be up there with the prices of Vipers and so on. I very seriously doubt that Ford will charge half of $75,000 for the Shelby Cobra. I be it doesnt go for more than $40,000 after taxes... and those are suppose to be a pully change and a tune away from 700 rwhp.

If you belive that the C6 and the Z06 are the same car then you have a little growing and a lot of learning to do.


In your world, the GT is nothing more then a mustang GT with more power and a different body right?

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If you belive that the C6 and the Z06 are the same car then you have a little growing and a lot of learning to do.


In your world, the GT is nothing more then a mustang GT with more power and a different body right?



No, but we can say that the Mustang GT is nothing more than a Mustang V6 with an engine and interior upgrade just as the Z06 is a C6 with the same. Know what im saying? Im not trying to argue or start a fight here. Just explaining my thoughts... so I would appreciate it if you kept your childesh remarks to yourself. ;)

There's a lot more into making a Z06 out of a C6 than making a V6 into a GT.

engine, transmission, suspension, the body itself, rims, brakes.

First off, isn't the Z06 made from a stiffer, closed top body? where as the C6 can come in convertible and removable glass tops? I know that was how C5s and C5 Z06s were built.

Jdan you missed the point, the entire chassis on the C6 Z06 is different. It's made from a laminate of aluminum,carbon fiber and beleive it or not the floor is a laminate of balsa wood and carbon fiber, you don't get this on the regular C6. I am not trying to fight either, and I know you don't like GM's but you gotta give credit where it's due. You will not find another car for under $80,000 that will run with the C6 Z06, most cars will need to cost nearly double to compete. Remeber that in order for the car to be produced, it needs to meet all the requirments of the Gov't, emissions noise regs and so on. Yes you could build a faster car out of a Cobra/Camaro/C5/Pinto/Gremlin for less than the Z06, but it will not have all the same comforts, get decente milage and all around performance. Plain and simple the Z06 is at the top of it's class for balaced performance. You can go run 11's in the morning and then go to Road America in the afternoon and not change a thing on the car and still have a stout performer.

Oh, and you also won't pay a gas guzzler tax with the new Z06. Unlike the 1000 in tax you had to pay on the 03 cobras, and the extra grand on the base price for the 04s. Not to mention the 3000 dollar gas tax on the 06 SRT10s.

Chevy has done some amazing **** with the Corvette.

You will not find another car for under $80,000 that will run with the C6 Z06, most cars will need to cost nearly double to compete.
I got my $ on the 06 S281E. And it should cost less than the vette.;)

Well we will just have to wait and see, but remember the Saleens are not made as a regular prodution car from Ford, a more even comparison might be a Lingenfelter prepped Z06. In the mean time some cool links.
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/
Check out the dry sump oiling system and the titainum rods, forged crank and pistons also (hello boost?)
http://www.sea6.com/
Just more facts and few vids.

ORIGINAL: JD1969]Lingenfelter prepped Z06

hhmm,... I think Ill take one of those & a side order of 2 turbos please

haha. Lingenfelters are sick, but, how bout the Hennessey 1000...hehe. 0-60 in 1.85. thats impressive, but, back to the thread. i agree, im not a chevy guy per say, but, gotta give credit where its due, and chevy did a HELLUVA job with the new Z06. i cant wait to see one person. the C5 Z06's were fast enuff, i wanna see what the new ones can do. and what they sound like. i love the sound of the C5 Z06's with aftermarket exhaust. just sounds like its gonna tear something a new a$$hole ;)

aside from the fact that he doesn't understand that the Zo6 shares nothing with the C6 other then some base looks. Thats still not the point one bit. No matter what car you have running fast weather it be a C5, a WS6, and 04 cobra, an STI, or a yugo, the fact remains that it's still not a Z06, and it's still not a mid-high 11 second car off the showrrom floor with a warrenty. Leave all your other thoughts aside because your totaly missing the point. Just because your against GM doesn't mean that any car thats as fast as it's ew flagship for cheeper is = to it in any respect. Thats why I used the enzo example, use what ever car you want, it doesn't matter what it is.

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Oh, and you also won't pay a gas guzzler tax with the new Z06. Unlike the 1000 in tax you had to pay on the 03 cobras, and the extra grand on the base price for the 04s. Not to mention the 3000 dollar gas tax on the 06 SRT10s.

Chevy has done some amazing **** with the Corvette.


It was $1300 on the GTO...:(

ORIGINAL: 96SilverLT1

aside from the fact that he doesn't understand that the Zo6 shares nothing with the C6 other then some base looks. Thats still not the point one bit. No matter what car you have running fast weather it be a C5, a WS6, and 04 cobra, an STI, or a yugo, the fact remains that it's still not a Z06, and it's still not a mid-high 11 second car off the showrrom floor with a warrenty. Leave all your other thoughts aside because your totaly missing the point. Just because your against GM doesn't mean that any car thats as fast as it's ew flagship for cheeper is = to it in any respect. Thats why I used the enzo example, use what ever car you want, it doesn't matter what it is.


you gettin on my case ?? i agree that a c6 and a Z06 have nothing in common. ive read quite a few new Z06 articles. they completely redesigned the Z06 from the regular vette. it doesnt matter if i like chevy or not, i give props to whomever deserves it, and i did !!!! so id appreciate if you eased up off my back about it !

He was talking to Jdan I think

well i saw where it said "in reply to grn n gry 5oh"......thats why i was wondering. everybody on this site knows i give props to whoever deserves it, whether be domestic, import, ford, chevy, dodge, it doesnt matter. whoever deserves it, i give it to 'em rightly so.

ORIGINAL: JD1969

Well we will just have to wait and see, but remember the Saleens are not made as a regular prodution car from Ford, a more even comparison might be a Lingenfelter prepped Z06. In the mean time some cool links.
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/
Check out the dry sump oiling system and the titainum rods, forged crank and pistons also (hello boost?)
http://www.sea6.com/
Just more facts and few vids.




According to birdie, the saleen is a production company since you can goto a dealership and buy them; which I think its a legit arguement, however I disagree since they do not actually build the car itself. The only car saleen can not be considered a tuner for is the s7.

JD, the z06 is not even close to a c6. Every aspect of the car is different (the looks are similar). And yeah you could build any car to have it go faster in a straight line. However you could not spend xxxxx$ on your cobra, my gt, a ws6, or whatever to make it handle and perform better other than straight line accel.

ORIGINAL: JD1969

Well we will just have to wait and see, but remember the Saleens are not made as a regular prodution car from Ford, a more even comparison might be a Lingenfelter prepped Z06. In the mean time some cool links.
http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/
Check out the dry sump oiling system and the titainum rods, forged crank and pistons also (hello boost?)
http://www.sea6.com/
Just more facts and few vids.

Ive already tried to explain that here before but I was told in different words that I didn't know what i was talking about. Good luck getting that one thru. ;)

Check this ride out. Too much $$$ for me.http://www.lingenfelter.com/documents/CF427TT_eprint.pdf

Yes, I was responding to Jdanial, I just saved time and hit teh fast reply instead of quoting him from teh 1st page..

Someone mentioned the S7.....

Can I please just say that this is probably my all time favorite car. I think I would literally kill a man, literally, to own one of these. They made the newest ones TWICE as good by adding TWO more turbos it had before! (previously 0 =p).

And seriously, what other cars are out there that you could theoretically drive upside down at speeds above 135 mph?!? That is some serious downforce!

http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/aceacademy/students/hs/Student_Folders/Wellburn_Jonathan/tb_saleen-lg.jpg

Sorry for the thread jack, but I'm seriously in love with that car.

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Yes, I was responding to Jdanial, I just saved time and hit teh fast reply instead of quoting him from teh 1st page..


ok. sorry man. i apologize.

and wrx....nice car. i like it. and the S7 is in a whole 'nother league than the Z06 and the Viper.

Thanks Grn N Gry ^_^ What do you drive bro?

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ok. sorry man. i apologize.




No problem... I'm not one to go flying off the handle over a missunderstanding... Then again, that sounds like fun :)

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Thanks Grn N Gry ^_^ What do you drive bro?


just a reg run of the mill '92 GT. stock for now. but, hopefully when i get the new motor im looking at, ill be @ 310-320whp. heheh. from a dig though, i dont wanna mess w/ you...........roll though, now that might be a diff story, but, i HATE racing from a roll. oh well. nice car though. i like the subtle looks of it.

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ORIGINAL: Grn N Gry 5OH


ok. sorry man. i apologize.




No problem... I'm not one to go flying off the handle over a missunderstanding... Then again, that sounds like fun :)



yeah, and like i said, i just saw where it said "in reply to grn n gry 5oh". thats why i got kinda edgy. i knew you had seen posts of mine where i was giving props to things other than a ford.....thats all. again, sorry man. and glad youre back

hey bro, how did ya fair through the storm?

Hey man, long time... I evacuated to baton rouge. After being there for ever they opened up Kenner on labor day. We left at 2 AM sunday and finaly got to the checkpoint at about 4:30 AM. We waited untill 6 AM when they let everyone in. Got to my APT and made teh choice to take as much as I could and go. My roof was collapsed a little bit and the apt that I shared a wall with was even worse. The apt under that one next to be was totaly missing the ceeling. I still ahve yet to hear from the APT but I bet they are still repairing that biudling not to mention the mold problems. So after having all my stuff out I was able to get back up to NC and am now staying with my mother. I'm going to be here from now on it would seem. Finaly last night I had a voicemail from my boss to call him. I'm sure that he is pissed but oh well, you gota do what you have to in order to servive, even if that means leaving. So for now I'm just gonna start looking for work around here and maybe do some work for people out of my mothers garage (anyone around charlotte area who needs car work done lemme know) ;)

Hope you got through everything alright, it's probably good that you left Jeff parish. They had no idea what to do to start rebiulding.





/hijack

Sorry about that guys. back on to arguing about the vette and talking about the mushy feeling in our pants.

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Hey man, long time... I evacuated to baton rouge. After being there for ever they opened up Kenner on labor day. We left at 2 AM sunday and finaly got to the checkpoint at about 4:30 AM. We waited untill 6 AM when they let everyone in. Got to my APT and made teh choice to take as much as I could and go. My roof was collapsed a little bit and the apt that I shared a wall with was even worse. The apt under that one next to be was totaly missing the ceeling. I still ahve yet to hear from the APT but I bet they are still repairing that biudling not to mention the mold problems. So after having all my stuff out I was able to get back up to NC and am now staying with my mother. I'm going to be here from now on it would seem. Finaly last night I had a voicemail from my boss to call him. I'm sure that he is pissed but oh well, you gota do what you have to in order to servive, even if that means leaving. So for now I'm just gonna start looking for work around here and maybe do some work for people out of my mothers garage (anyone around charlotte area who needs car work done lemme know) ;)

Hope you got through everything alright, it's probably good that you left Jeff parish. They had no idea what to do to start rebiulding.





/hijack

Sorry about that guys. back on to arguing about the vette and talking about the mushy feeling in our pants.


that's a good story. glad you were OK.

Where were we?

You can go down to a dealership and buy a Saleen I have one about an hour away from me. I can see where he says that the Z06 and the C6 are close to the same car. You guys are getting too close minded with saying that the frame is different. Its still a Corvette no matter what they put on it or do to it. I can see your argument with the warranty thing but common now you are just nit picking. The new Z06 is a nice car but I like the new E car from Saleen like Birdieman.

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You can go down to a dealership and buy a Saleen I have one about an hour away from me. I can see where he says that the Z06 and the C6 are close to the same car. You guys are getting too close minded with saying that the frame is different. Its still a Corvette no matter what they put on it or do to it. I can see your argument with the warranty thing but common now you are just nit picking. The new Z06 is a nice car but I like the new E car from Saleen like Birdieman.

The point is the frame,engine and suspension are completly different, carbon fiber floors and front clip, hydro formed frame, magnisium engine cradle, and so on. You do not get these things on a regular C6. No offence to the Cobra guys but it's not the same as Ford just putting a biger motor and IRS in a Stang and calling it a Cobra. The Z06 has more in common with the C6R than it does the regular C6.

What are you doing back here? I thought this place was a joke and you couldn't stand it?