Hey everyone, I was looking on ebay and I found a Bomz racing cold air intake. Are Bomz products any good? I looked at their site and it said it was the leading aftermarket manufacturer(sp). Anyways I wanted to know what you all thought about them before I bought one.
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From their pictures it appears that filter will be located under the hood in the engine compartment. That looks like just a nice looking intake tube and air filter. A functional cold air intake will take air from either fender or bumper. If you see a filter under your hood, then it's just for looks. A filter shield will help some but only if filter breathes fresh outside air.
Also, when buying one you need to watch out where MAF is mounted. If it's mounted right behind the filter it could skew the MAF reading at low speed, due to increased air velosity through the MAF, resulting in lean condition, check engine lights, and poor gas mileage. MAF should be located further up from the conical air filter.
I have a BOMZ CAI and I'm very happy with it. It's cheap, but does the job and I've yet to blow a code or have ANY problems. The air filter mounts in the fender, and everything else is in place as it was stock. Nothing is really out of place and you can hear the "whoosh" of air coming in on startup and when you get on the engine.
ORIGINAL: blueangelfightr Even if it's in the engine compartment its still a CAI.
Only if it's enclosed in an air tight box that takes air from either fender or bumper. If filter is exposed to the air from under the hood then it is a "HAI", hot air intake.
This would be a true cold air intake.
while this is a hot air intake. That filter is sure a sight to be hold when you open that hood, but it sucks hot air from under the hood, and all the benefits of installing a CAI are gone.
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If you say so, I've argued this 1000 times and I don't feel like doing it again.
Im new and curious. Care to repeat once more?
Eh, sure.
There is no such thing as a real CAI, unless you have some sort of an air conditioning vent in front of the filter or take you passanger headlight out. The problem with a CAI that mounts in the engine bay is that they take in warm air from the engine because it produces so much heat. And the problem with a fener mount CAI is that it still takes in warm air (even though it's cooler then the engine mount) but does not take in as much air, due to the fact it's restricted inside the fender with no way to get constant fresh air. Thats why when you go to the track, the guys with the fender mount CAI's usually take out their passanger side headlight (to allow for cool fresh air). But as soon as they put it back on the air flow is restriced again. So yes you will be taking cooler air with a fender mount but you will not be taking in as much, so which is better? I personally have a one that mounts in the engine bay and I never had a problem, the heat shield helps a little. But most guys like fender mount. But the reason I argue that the fender mount is not a real CAI is because it's still taking in warm air, even outside the engine bay. Whatever you like you get. Seriously there's not much difference. In my eyes there is no real CAI unless you have a way of getting fresh air into the filter like when you take the headlight out, but thats illegal for the street.
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And now we sound like a mustang board - if I just supercharge it, it will blow the doors off of anything...
But is the airflow in the fender really that restrictive for it to negate any benefits of the cooler air it takes in?? And doesnt the spinning wheel produce a kind of updraft of air that would shoot straight into the CAI?
Would be cool if you could 1) Record the average temperature difference between the engine bay and the fender. 2) Dyno the car with a similar CAI and both setups 3) See which one produces more HP, and better fuel efficiency.
In terms of price, are the two setups the same?
Are there any websites that did this sort of experiment?
Taking air from anywhere but under the hood produces the most hp. I had experimented tuning ignition maps with hot air and air from the outside. Taking air from under the hood averages a minimum of 4 BTDC retard. That's pretty much same as going from 93 to 89 octane.
All major name tuners, such as Saleen and Kenny Brown, take their cold air from either fender or bumper. MAC makes a nice ram air kit that connects to your stock airbox.
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Kenny brown does suspension. And saleen uses the stock air box not a fender mount, so your wrong. Do you really have any clue what your talking about? Yes, a fender mount does take in cooler air, but where is all of this fresh air coming from? Your best bet would probally be that kit that has an opening that's under the front bumper that takes in cool air. A fender mount and an engine mount are about the same price.
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so a ram air would be most effective since its directly in the front bumper and its completly the coolest air because it taking air from the front before it gets heated up from the engine?
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Well I don't know what Kenny Brown does for Mustang, for panthers he uses Marauder airbox and takes air form the fender. Stock GT air box takes air from the fender also. That MAC ram air kit takes air from the outside and showels it into the air box. Dude, you calling me wrong even though I told you I've tested it during tuning.
well they wouldn't sell heads and cams and intake manifolds and stuff if there was some cure all way to just route the air to dramatically increase horsepower. buy a cai cause it looks good or is cheap or whatever, but you're taking too much consideration here i think, especially 4600cc who started the whole retarded argument that pretty much doesn't even matter.
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Well I don't know what Kenny Brown does for Mustang, for panthers he uses Marauder airbox and takes air form the fender. Stock GT air box takes air from the fender also. That MAC ram air kit takes air from the outside and showels it into the air box. Dude, you calling me wrong even though I told you I've tested it during tuning.
The more you talk the less you seem to know. I personally don't think you know anything about mustangs or cars in general for that matter, you seem to not have a clue what your talking about, like how you make a comment of what kenny brown does but yet you just admitted you don't even know what they do. And you also use saleen as an example and you don't even know they don't put on a CAI. So untill you get me some dyno sheets on this "test" you did, in my eyes you don't know jack.
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And now we sound like a mustang board - if I just supercharge it, it will blow the doors off of anything...
Saleen does have fender pickups on older saleens such as ones that came with vortechs not twin screws...Sorry blue I didnt want to agree with him but some saleens do have cold air pickups such as mineDo you still love me???I do agree thou he has no idea what hes talking about and the more he talks the worse it is!!!
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