RE: My poor Christine, please help
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/17/2005 1:30:30 PM
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Soaring
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Nah, she's getting a new carb.
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/17/2005 1:35:30 PM
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newownerof72
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Hi Everybody...
Got the Chilton and the carb and are in the process of replacing diz cap, rotor, condenser and points. Got the feeler gauge and the timing light and as soon as the hubby gets home we are gonna work on her.
Oh yeah, and we have to fix another leak in the radiator 
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/17/2005 3:48:29 PM
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Soaring
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Good. Set those points to right at 0.017 and the timing at 8-10 degrees BTDC.
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/19/2005 6:12:15 PM
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newownerof72
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The manual and instructions for the timing light say we have to set the RPM at 500 before we can set the timing. So we are looking for a tach now, the hubby was going to buy the biggest one he could find just to aggravate me, but I think I talked him outta that. Anyhow, we have tried it at 7 and 10 and the points at .018 but that was a no go. Dad said that .016 may be better than the .018 or 7 even. So I think that all we are waiting on is the tach so we can set the rpm correctly and try 6 BTDC which is what the manual says.
Its been three dang weeks and i am starting to lose my patience, i hope to god this works.
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/19/2005 8:04:15 PM
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Take your radiator to the radiator shop. They will fix any leak, paint it, and clean out the inside.
for $50
You can take it to a shop if you have one you can trust. I personally would rather get a new one. Around here the new one has a better warranty than a rebuilt or patched one. It may cost a bit more up front but it sounds like you have a pretty bad radiator.
Soaring was right on with the points at .017. You can also safely set the timing further to around 8 degrees BTDC without any problems. If you get any engine ping, back it back down to 7 or 6 then.
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/20/2005 2:23:57 AM
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KBunny
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So I take it the carb didnt fix it?
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/20/2005 2:45:12 AM
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Soaring
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ORIGINAL: newownerof72
The manual and instructions for the timing light say we have to set the RPM at 500 before we can set the timing. So we are looking for a tach now, the hubby was going to buy the biggest one he could find just to aggravate me, but I think I talked him outta that. Anyhow, we have tried it at 7 and 10 and the points at .018 but that was a no go. Dad said that .016 may be better than the .018 or 7 even. So I think that all we are waiting on is the tach so we can set the rpm correctly and try 6 BTDC which is what the manual says.
Its been three dang weeks and i am starting to lose my patience, i hope to god this works.
The best timing light in the world is your ears.  Set it close to about 8, then take it out on the road and see if it pings. Tweak it from there. Be sure you plug the vacuum line with a screw or something while you are timing it. Timing also has to do with the quality of gas you have in it. Are you running 91-93 octane? If not, then you should.
< Message edited by Soaring -- 9/20/2005 2:47:34 AM >
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/20/2005 5:08:22 PM
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newownerof72
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ok, we are about to lose our patience. We can't set the timing correctly w/o a tach, and Glen, my dad said the same thing about the ear. Either we have really bad hearing or we don't know what the heck we are doing. We keep getting a popping from the passenger side exhaust pipe, which to us means that it is not firing in correct time. We have tried it idled all the way down and on 6 and it dies. All the way down and 7-10 it won't stall but the popping gets worse. And when we drive it down the road, it backfires. OK, now what?
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/20/2005 5:41:31 PM
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Soaring
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Nah, don't loseyour patience. It now sounds like you may have a firing order problem. The firing order for that engine is 15426378. The numbr one piston is on the passenger side at the front of the engine. From there you go 1234 on that bank, then 5678 on the driver's side bank.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/28738/index3.html
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/20/2005 5:48:30 PM
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Nah, don't loseyour patience. It now sounds like you may have a firing order problem. The firing order for that engine is 15426378. The numbr one piston is on the passenger side at the front of the engine. From there you go 1234 on that bank, then 5678 on the driver's side bank.
http://www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/28738/index3.html
I was told it was 1357 on one side and 2468 on the other but that was for a chevy 350, are the 289s different?
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/20/2005 5:52:53 PM
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newownerof72
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Thanks Glen, we'll check that before we start messing with the distributor again, since we changed the diz cap we might have crossed a wire.
It's a 302, not a 289 Kbunny.
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/20/2005 6:14:39 PM
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KBunny
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So then ford and chevy are different by how they number the cylinders, ok.
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/20/2005 6:21:16 PM
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newownerof72
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Yeah, some of the things on the car have been great as far as self explanatory or common sense, others have been a royal pain. It didn't help that I tried to do some stuff by myself and had to start over when I had help....lol
then again the hubby keeps insisting that he isn't a mechanic so what choice do I have except for trying to do it myself, right? 
Does anyone know a mechanic that makes house calls? I don't...
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RE: My poor Christine, please help - 9/21/2005 4:46:21 AM
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Soaring
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The 289 and the 302 have the same firing order. Yes, a Ford 289 is different from a Chevy 350 in how they number the cylinders. 91-93 octane gas is premium. 87 octane is regular.
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