OOHH yeah, thats with a stock midpipe, stock exhaust manifolds, stock engine (upgraded blower), stock tranny, & stock clutch. Once I get the equal mid lengths and X pipe on then I will easily make 675. Then the Methanol will put me at or about 750. Come back when you know what a Cobra will do to you.
JD owns you. Ok, I tried being nice about this but it seems you can't take nice. Now will you please get the hell out of here. You have no business in here doing what your doing. All your doing is stirring up trouble and theres no point to have us defend ourselfs on our own site. When I'm done with my car I'll give you a call and we can see if you will be able to take this "little GT" Untill that time next time you see a cobra race him. I bet with just a pulley swap and maybe an exhaust he'll put a car on you.
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Mazda? Lol not even close. Looks more like the old 360 modena if anything. Atleast you don't see a C6 every time you turn the corner.
Actually, where I live, all I see are C5's and C6's and a few 70s 'vettes. Lots more than Mustangs, at least.
I never see Cobras, though. In fact, aren't 'vettes produced in far more mass quantities than Cobras?
And considering 'vettes cost more than a Cobra, a Cobra shouldn't even be competition towards a 'vette.. kinda like how everyone here thinks Camaros and Mustang GTs are "equal", even though the f-bodies cost a lot more (MSRP when they were still produced, and even now a few thousand more in the used car market). But, as was stated before, 03/04 Cobras are about equal to corvettes, and, most likely, the new GT500 will smoke all but the new z06/king kong corvette.
So, like, why are you here again?
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BTW, you have a totally wrong look on racing. It should be for fun, your making it way way bigger then it has to be. I still don't know why you didn't race a car you could "handle so easy". If I were you I would have fun racing him and putting a car on him. I would have fun even if I lost. It's not all about who wins it's also about how your car compares to the others and what you have to do to get it up to par with others. You have the wrong look on all of this.
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Hey, I am not bashing the stang. I just think that you should race cars that are in your league. That would be like a C6 owner racing an Enzo.
Actually, you are bashing the stang. Lets take a good look at the cars for a second. The last year cobra was 2004. The Corresponding Vette of that year.
The Vette coupe had 350 bhp and weighed 3214 ...hp/weight ratio .1089 The Cobra coupe has 390 bhp and weighed 3665 ...hp/weight ratio .1064
That's not alot of difference.
If the Vette had an automatic tranny it would be a no-contest win for the Cobra. Not to mention the Cobra's interior is, hands down, better than the C5. It's not even a competition. My friend's biggest complaint about his Vette was the fact that it's interior rattled and generally wasn't put together well. The cobra's suede 6-way power adjustable seats are much more comfortable.
When it comes to speed, you still lose in the long run. No modification you could possibly make to your car is gonna give you as much bang for buck as a supercharger pulley swap on the cobra. One $75 part put on the car (with a shorter belt and a tune) will turn that 04 cobra into a car that will hands down beat your car and even any manual C6 that is modded with the same budget. Not to mention, it'll even take an 04 Z06.
You can talk about the upcoming Z06 but that's nearly twice the price of your car and the LS7 motor is much more impressive than yours.
The corresponding cobra to your car isn't being released until 2007. It's the new body-style mustang but it starts off at 475 hp and it'll most likely beat your car every time, stock. It also has a supercharger that can get sick amounts of power with a pulley swap which means on the same modding budget, you don't even have a prayer.
You wanna impress somebody, go take your vette to lingenfelter because otherwise, your stock automatic vette is just snake food for any cobra owner with a wrench and a close match for a stock Cobra.
Poor-man's sports car? Bullsh*t For the record, a mustang is a pony car (modern day version of a muscle car), not a sports car but it's still fast enough to run with and many(most) times beat your car. To be honest, there is nothing sporty about your stock automatic. (cobra's only come in 6-speed) Learn how to drive stick or atleast get a shift kit.
As far as your other comment goes, the Vette is much closer to the Cobra than it is to the Enzo in performance, exclusivity, price, and well just about everything. Don't kid yourself.
And for all your generalizing of Cobra owners, and all of your ignorant comments, you've shown us what type of people some Vette owners are. If a person has to be a big-headed, ignorant, conceited, condescending prick to drive one, myself and most other members on here will pass.
Enjoy your car, snakefood.
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1st - This guys wasn't bashing Mustang at first, he just suggested you guys take it to the track, which is a pretty good idea. Then you guys jump on him in the first post. Calling him a dumb ass and everything. How lame...
2nd - Banning him, why, he hasn't done anything that deserves a ban. Stop waiving the ban stick.
3rd - stock for stock, C6 would take any Cobra.
4th - You guys ask him what his point was to post. He actually had one. Now I ask this question, what was you all's point of posting the same thing that the person above you said, over and over again? Or when someone posted "no one cares". If you didn't care, you obviously should not post.
5th - He didn't get rude with you guys, until you all got rude with him.
6th - Bringing in comments about his family, and arguing about things, he never intended to argue about, until you brought it up? come on, please
7th - Don't tell him he is scared cause he didn't race the guy. He was the SMART one, who decided not to illegally street race. On yeah, and did you even happen to read what he said? It was a very busy street. It would have been stupid.
8th - Why do you guys continue to post, argue and bash him after he clearly is not coming back?
BTW, 01stangGT, try using the edit button, instead of double posting like a crazy pigeon. Also, try not being such an ass, and maybe people won't be an ass to you.
mysticsvtcobra96 - The SRT-10 Ram could not have been stock, and that is what the Vette guy was talking about all along.
Fallstar - If you want to do a lb-hp ratio, do it right. Also, this guy is talking about his car, not a 2004 coupe. But I'll go ahead and use the 2004 Z06, it's exactly equal to BlueVette's.
2004 Corvette Z06: 405 hp V8, 3116 - weight per hp: 7.693 (your way hp per lb- .1299)
2004 Mustang Cobra: 390 hp V8, 3665 - weight per hp: 9.397 (your way hp per lb - .1064)
Either way , the Corvette has a MUCH better edge on the Cobra.
Overall, nothing personally against anybody. It's just you guys were being asses.... so why would he not be an ass back?
Feel free to bash me, because I know it will happen... I won't be listening....
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OOHH yeah, thats with a stock midpipe, stock exhaust manifolds, stock engine (upgraded blower), stock tranny, & stock clutch. Once I get the equal mid lengths and X pipe on then I will easily make 675. Then the Methanol will put me at or about 750. Come back when you know what a Cobra will do to you.
Looks like you better study up some JD before making that much power. There's TONS of guys burning pistons up in these things.
Besides, you're comparing a forged internal block, which most of the forged parts aren't even Ford parts, to a non forged block. If you want to compare that, just forge the LS2. Even at such a high compression, it'd make well over 700rwhp w/o much trouble.
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On a very busy street a white Cobra pulls up next to my C6 vette (we are both doing about 40 or so) he downshifts and starts reving his engine and such. I look over and start laughing at him then he floors it and almost crashes into a highway entrence ramp baracade. What is with Mustang driver's trying to street race all the time? Take it to the track if you want to race and stop trying to race cars that you will get smoked by.
Why dont you come to Bowling Green Kentucky? Since your such a Vette guy, I'm sure your familiar with it here. I could set you up with about 8 Stangs that would just love to run that C6 .
Also, the NMRA World Finals are comming up on the 1st and 2nd of October. If your such a cocky hardass about it, I'm sure you wont have a second thought about comming over here then either.
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1st - This guys wasn't bashing Mustang at first, he just suggested you guys take it to the track, which is a pretty good idea. Then you guys jump on him in the first post. Calling him a dumb ass and everything. How lame...
2nd - Banning him, why, he hasn't done anything that deserves a ban. Stop waiving the ban stick.
3rd - stock for stock, C6 would take any Cobra.
4th - You guys ask him what his point was to post. He actually had one. Now I ask this question, what was you all's point of posting the same thing that the person above you said, over and over again? Or when someone posted "no one cares". If you didn't care, you obviously should not post.
5th - He didn't get rude with you guys, until you all got rude with him.
6th - Bringing in comments about his family, and arguing about things, he never intended to argue about, until you brought it up? come on, please
7th - Don't tell him he is scared cause he didn't race the guy. He was the SMART one, who decided not to illegally street race. On yeah, and did you even happen to read what he said? It was a very busy street. It would have been stupid.
8th - Why do you guys continue to post, argue and bash him after he clearly is not coming back?
BTW, 01stangGT, try using the edit button, instead of double posting like a crazy pigeon. Also, try not being such an ass, and maybe people won't be an ass to you.
mysticsvtcobra96 - The SRT-10 Ram could not have been stock, and that is what the Vette guy was talking about all along.
Fallstar - If you want to do a lb-hp ratio, do it right. Also, this guy is talking about his car, not a 2004 coupe. But I'll go ahead and use the 2004 Z06, it's exactly equal to BlueVette's.
2004 Corvette Z06: 405 hp V8, 3116 - weight per hp: 7.693 (your way hp per lb- .1299)
2004 Mustang Cobra: 390 hp V8, 3665 - weight per hp: 9.397 (your way hp per lb - .1064)
Either way , the Corvette has a MUCH better edge on the Cobra.
Overall, nothing personally against anybody. It's just you guys were being asses.... so why would he not be an ass back?
Feel free to bash me, because I know it will happen... I won't be listening....
This is very true also. Out of over 10,000 active members on this board, I think only four or five of us own Cobras. LOL
ME, Hiss, Dan, Who else?
Me and 94Cbra.... or do we not count because they aren't 03/4s
Sorry, buddy. I wasnt purposly not including you... but I was thinking of the Cobras that compare to the new Vettes.
Double post but who cares.
Pshaw Pshaw Jdan! Our cars were built in 1994! Kina putting apples and oranges together when comparing a new Vette to an almost 12 year old Cobra! How about I "modernize" my Snake to even the playing field? CHP has some pretty 'modern' 347 Turbo ready Stroker motors, and since the new Snakes have S/C's (and my car is paid for in full ) FI seems pretty common at this time, so a turbo would fit nicely on a 347. I forsee an easy 700rwhp + on pump gas in this Snakes future. Now we're with even highly modded Vettes. See how things are so subjective?
Sorry Jdan, this is gonna be a playful "I lub you" jab but.... With just a 125-150 shot and some tires ill be running in the low 12's too!
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OOHH yeah, thats with a stock midpipe, stock exhaust manifolds, stock engine (upgraded blower), stock tranny, & stock clutch. Once I get the equal mid lengths and X pipe on then I will easily make 675. Then the Methanol will put me at or about 750. Come back when you know what a Cobra will do to you.
Looks like you better study up some JD before making that much power. There's TONS of guys burning pistons up in these things.
Besides, you're comparing a forged internal block, which most of the forged parts aren't even Ford parts, to a non forged block. If you want to compare that, just forge the LS2. Even at such a high compression, it'd make well over 700rwhp w/o much trouble.
Yeah, I know. Ive done a lot of reading on our stockers and I know that they do melt easy. But as you can see in the video of my dyno, I have t running really rich on purpose to kinda keep it cooler. Im hoping I can make it through the summer and into the winter so I can swap these ones out with a brand new set of CP's.
Also... You really cant blame Ford for building a great engine. If GM really wanted to keep up then they would have copied Ford. Stock for stock the Cobra motor will always handle more power than the LS1, LS2, LS6 or the LS7.
This is very true also. Out of over 10,000 active members on this board, I think only four or five of us own Cobras. LOL
ME, Hiss, Dan, Who else?
Me and 94Cbra.... or do we not count because they aren't 03/4s
Sorry, buddy. I wasnt purposly not including you... but I was thinking of the Cobras that compare to the new Vettes.
Double post but who cares.
Pshaw Pshaw Jdan! Our cars were built in 1994! Kina putting apples and oranges together when comparing a new Vette to an almost 12 year old Cobra! How about I "modernize" my Snake to even the playing field? CHP has some pretty 'modern' 347 Turbo ready Stroker motors, and since the new Snakes have S/C's (and my car is paid for in full ) FI seems pretty common at this time, so a turbo would fit nicely on a 347. I forsee an easy 700rwhp + on pump gas in this Snakes future. Now we're with even highly modded Vettes. See how things are so subjective?
Sorry Jdan, this is gonna be a playful "I lub you" jab but.... With just a 125-150 shot and some tires ill be running in the low 12's too!
IRS OWNZ YOU FOO!
HAHA! I know I know. Thats all you have to do is moderinize it though and you will be up with the rest of us. No pun intended earlier when I left the older models out.
1st - This guys wasn't bashing Mustang at first, he just suggested you guys take it to the track, which is a pretty good idea. Then you guys jump on him in the first post. Calling him a dumb ass and everything. How lame...
So this wasnt bashing Mustangs (Cobras in general)?
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ORIGINAL BluevetteC6HOMOLOSER Take it to the track if you want to race and stop trying to race cars that you will get smoked by.
I take it you're a friend of this guy and you have come on here and are defending him... but for what? He asked for it.
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1st - This guys wasn't bashing Mustang at first, he just suggested you guys take it to the track, which is a pretty good idea. Then you guys jump on him in the first post. Calling him a dumb ass and everything. How lame...
So this wasnt bashing Mustangs (Cobras in general)?
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ORIGINAL BluevetteC6HOMOLOSER Take it to the track if you want to race and stop trying to race cars that you will get smoked by.
I take it you're a friend of this guy and you have come on here and are defending him... but for what? He asked for it.
No, I am not a friend of him. As a matter of fact, I HATE Corvettes, because I am a die-hard Viper fan. Also, take a look at the date I joined, and my post count. Both will show you I was here long before this guy decided to post.
All I'm saying, is that ya'll could have just left it alone. But instead, ya'll instigate him more and more for 4 pages. And then even after he is clearly gone, you guys still argue.
Everything I said was the truth. It's like yall were arguing, just to argue. I felt the need to correct a few things. You guys should have not even responded to him at all.
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Also... You really cant blame Ford for building a great engine. If GM really wanted to keep up then they would have copied Ford. Stock for stock the Cobra motor will always handle more power than the LS1, LS2, LS6 or the LS7.
It is a great engine. SVT basically did the work for you guys. The went ahead and added aftermarket stuff inside their "stock" motors. The body it's in, eh, it could use some work though. A stock internalled LSx will make that much power, but not for long. But we both know that it doesn't take LSx cars much over 450rwhp to run 10's.
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