V6 one wheel does all the work?
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V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 12:16:22 PM
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Stoenr
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Confused about the V6 rear end.
I am confused and always tought that it had power to both rear wheels until one wheel broke traction.
Am I wrong, and the V6 is Right rear wheel drive?
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 12:17:58 PM
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StupidTodd
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The V6 does not have the traction lock (positraction for fords).
All the power goes to the rear passenger wheel.
I have a trac-lok on order for the 7.5 rear end (and I already have my 4.10 gears), just waiting for the trac-lok to show so I can have them installed.
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 12:21:59 PM
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Stoenr
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Yeah I understand that, but I thought traction lock only locked in when traction was lost on one wheel and put power to the other wheel.
Under normal acceleration I find it hard to believe that its only powered by one wheel.
This would cause irratic tire wear.
Guess im stubborn to understand or accept this
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 12:40:37 PM
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StupidTodd
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I was too... I couldn't believe both wheels didn't have power...
So, I backed into a mostly dead spot in my yard, and hit the gas (to find out for sure)... only 1 tire spun. I was ticked, but I ordered my trac-lok the next day.
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 12:47:03 PM
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Stoenr
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ok, heres where your not understanding the question.
I know when you break tracktion only one wheel will spin.
Im talking about normal accelration. Both wheels are powered. correct? or no
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 12:48:01 PM
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Badash
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where did you order the trac-lok from?
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 12:58:04 PM
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StupidTodd
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quote:
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ok, heres where your not understanding the question.
I know when you break tracktion only one wheel will spin.
Im talking about normal accelration. Both wheels are powered. correct? or no
I don't think they are, but I'm not %100 sure on that one....
I ordered the trac-lok from http://www.gefracing.com/ but they are backordered until the end of July
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 1:06:03 PM
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Stoenr
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yes both wheels are accelerating the car under acceleration (when not peeling out).
One wheel accel would cause erratic tire wear.
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 2:14:43 PM
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ChristopherCamel
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one wheel powers it...if you want to know for sure lay under your car..pull the cover off the differential and see which way teh gears go...should be towards the rear passenger wheel..same as old mustangs
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 2:15:05 PM
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ChristopherCamel
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one tire..two tires..doesnt matter to me how it is pushed as long as it works
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 3:48:45 PM
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Stoenr
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quote:
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one tire..two tires..doesnt matter to me how it is pushed as long as it works
lol, I guess.
But just dont go around telling anyone you got a Right Rear wheel drive car, they might laugh.
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 3:56:03 PM
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I'm gonna jack my car up today and put an end to this stupid argument.... :)
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 4:42:53 PM
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Stoenr
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Lol.
Why even put an Axle on the LR if all the wheel does is free roll.
Go cart Style mustang! one wheel drive!
< Message edited by Stoenr -- 7/7/2005 4:43:41 PM >
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 5:04:19 PM
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Despoiler
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OMFG guys, this is like high school remedial autoshop in here.
BOTH tires get power evenly until one begins to have MORE resistant force applied to it and then MORE power is applied to the wheel that has the least resistance. IE why the wheel off the ground goes round and round while the one on the ground does almost nothing.
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 5:27:47 PM
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Stoenr
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quote:
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OMFG guys, this is like high school remedial autoshop in here.
BOTH tires get power evenly until one begins to have MORE resistant force applied to it and then MORE power is applied to the wheel that has the least resistance. IE why the wheel off the ground goes round and round while the one on the ground does almost nothing.
Thank you!
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 6:35:32 PM
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flapjack
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Yeah, what he said. It's a limited slip differential, right?
It just applies power to the wheel which has traction.
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ORIGINAL: Despoiler
OMFG guys, this is like high school remedial autoshop in here.
BOTH tires get power evenly until one begins to have MORE resistant force applied to it and then MORE power is applied to the wheel that has the least resistance. IE why the wheel off the ground goes round and round while the one on the ground does almost nothing.
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RE: V6 one wheel does all the work? - 7/7/2005 7:49:25 PM
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Despoiler
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quote:
ORIGINAL: flapjack
Yeah, what he said. It's a limited slip differential, right?
It just applies power to the wheel which has traction.
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ORIGINAL: Despoiler
OMFG guys, this is like high school remedial autoshop in here.
BOTH tires get power evenly until one begins to have MORE resistant force applied to it and then MORE power is applied to the wheel that has the least resistance. IE why the wheel off the ground goes round and round while the one on the ground does almost nothing.
The V6 has an open differential unless a ford racing T-lock has been installed.
A LSD (on the GT's standard) attempts to supply equal power to both wheels. Clutch style LSD's have all of the same components as an open differential, but it adds a spring pack and a set of clutches. Some have a cone clutch that is just like the synchronizers in a transmission. The spring pack pushes the side gears against the clutches, which are attached to the cage. Both side gears spin with the cage when both wheels are moving at the same speed, and the clutches aren't really needed -- the only time the clutches step in is when something happens to make one wheel spin faster than the other, as in a turn. The clutches fight this behavior, wanting both wheels to go the same speed. If one wheel wants to spin faster than the other, it must first overpower the clutch. The stiffness of the springs combined with the friction of the clutch determine how much torque it takes to overpower it.
Getting back to the situation in which one drive wheel up in the air and the other one has good traction. With limited slip differential, even though the wheel in the air is not able to transmit torque to the ground, the other wheel will still get the torque it needs to move. The torque supplied to the wheel not in the air is equal to the amount of torque it takes to overpower the clutches. The result is that you can move forward, although still not with the full power of your car.
Which is why you can do a one wheel burn out in a GT around corners.
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