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yep a pro charger on a cobra, been done a lot here in the south. i will get a copy of his slip as far as easy to say i can assure you what i say is true as i have no reason to lie, hell its not my car believe me i would not brag on any of my cars cause none of them are fast, maybe quick but none of them are fast, my ws6 is a low 14 and my 91 verte is probably going to hit low 12's? maybe car hasnt been run yet. my boy john also has a 87 ta running a 396 i think that is in the 9's but then again john has been racing for 22 years./
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just swapped out the blower its still bolt on is it not, not much diff than adding a cam heads exhaust. after selling the eaton and fac. intake i think hes got about 2400 in the procharger. i will get him to email me some picks and slips when he gets off the boat, has 14 days left out on the water
I would imagine he'd need a whole new fuel system for a Procharger. P&P heads and full bolt-ons ain't cheap. Haveing several hundred spare half shafts laying around probably ain't cheap either. Simply tuning a car with that much hp would cost major $ and lots of dyno time.
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still has the original rear end, car is fast for sure, never drove it, but john has been building and racing as long or longer than 3/4 of us have had licenses. with both gm and ford. he didnt like the eaton and wanted a diff. route than a kb. md whats up man, long time
new injectors, but i believe its the stock fuel system with a boost a pump.
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what do 600-800 hp supras and cobras have in common? 12 second time slips
If you think a 600 RWHP cobra is gonna run 12 you are stupid.
ummm, it already has...
With a 2.0 60' sure. I would guess even you would have a hard time running anything but high 12s with a freaking 2.0. I don't even want to think about what my car would run with a 2.0 60', I would be too depressed. It has already been proven that the IRS with minimal work and slicks can cut 1.5/1.6 60' times. 650 HP and a 1.5 60' is one fast freaking car, even at 3700 pounds.
BTW, doing the math here (with no drivers in either car):
Cobra: 3800pnds/650RWHP: 5.84 pnd/HP (figuring high on the wieght I think) MD GT: 3300pnd/410 RWHP: 8.04 Pnd/HP. (And I am being VERY optimistic about a GTs weight)
If a IRS can cut a 1.5 60' on slicks, why exactly cannot he run much faster than your car? You know I don't have a problem with ya MD, but everyone on here that doesn't own a cobra suddenly has a hard on for hating on them (or maybe just because they don't like JD).
I realise he has been a prick (well ya have JD) since he got the cobra, but lets just forget the personal stuff and talk cars here. And 98, everything I have ever heard from you is that LS1s need to get a rear axle change around 11s (as the "10 bolt" I think?) is weak. So how do you have a problem with needing to swap out an axle, not that he needs to (or a trans for that matter....)
I am seriously thinking of ditching the GT for a cobra. 380 RWHP stock, 470 RWHP with a few bolt ons, and 650 with a simple blower change.
BTW, about the procharger issue, why would you need anything more than a KB kit would? The only difference the procharger makes is that it is able to make the power higher in the RPM band, where you need it more. I have seen several procharger swaps on cobras in magazines, and none of em mentioned having to do anything special (more than a KB kit anyway, just fuel pump etc).
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There's nothing wrong with my automatic....my computer in my car is messed up. It keeps throwing a TPS sensor, which is ****ing my tranny up. I can go 10's on the stock tranny/stock rearend with the automatic. A manual is another story. You pre-load the auto, thusly absorbing much of the shock to the rear end, vs dumping the clutch with a manual and hitting the rear with a ton of torque.
I went 1.66 short time with BONE stock suspension on Nitto's. Hell, I don't even have a shift kit.
The only reason I want a manual is so I can street race more, from any speed. It'll also dyno over 400rwhp on motor and a ton on nitrous. In some ways, I want a dyno queen...for now. Once the 12 bolt goes in and some slicks go on, 10's will NOT be a problem.
If you want to run 11's, a Cobra is not a bad option, if you can get by the $25k price tag for a used one. If you want to run lower than that, it cost some dough. I've found this out from experience. I'm not ragging on Cobra's, JD is just too cocky for a 12 second ride.
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There's nothing wrong with my automatic....my computer in my car is messed up. It keeps throwing a TPS sensor, which is ****ing my tranny up. I can go 10's on the stock tranny/stock rearend with the automatic. A manual is another story. You pre-load the auto, thusly absorbing much of the shock to the rear end, vs dumping the clutch with a manual and hitting the rear with a ton of torque.
I went 1.66 short time with BONE stock suspension on Nitto's. Hell, I don't even have a shift kit.
The only reason I want a manual is so I can street race more, from any speed. It'll also dyno over 400rwhp on motor and a ton on nitrous. In some ways, I want a dyno queen...for now. Once the 12 bolt goes in and some slicks go on, 10's will NOT be a problem.
If you want to run 11's, a Cobra is not a bad option, if you can get by the $25k price tag for a used one. If you want to run lower than that, it cost some dough. I've found this out from experience. I'm not ragging on Cobra's, JD is just too cocky for a 12 second ride.
Bah I had a huge post but I just said **** it and deleted it. Its not worth arguing over. If you really want to beileve that his car, even as it sits with no axle work and street tires, is only capable of a 12 second 1/4 go right ahead.
Maybe he cannot get traction like he says, maybe he just sucks at driving, maybe his track sucks, but the car is much faster than a mid/low 12 second machine. As I said before, simply do the math.
I sure would give 351r a real spanking in my lil ole 67 nova.. I run low 10's thur the exahuast and can be driven with no problem on a 100 degree day
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There's nothing wrong with my automatic....my computer in my car is messed up. It keeps throwing a TPS sensor, which is ****ing my tranny up. I can go 10's on the stock tranny/stock rearend with the automatic. A manual is another story. You pre-load the auto, thusly absorbing much of the shock to the rear end, vs dumping the clutch with a manual and hitting the rear with a ton of torque.
I went 1.66 short time with BONE stock suspension on Nitto's. Hell, I don't even have a shift kit.
The only reason I want a manual is so I can street race more, from any speed. It'll also dyno over 400rwhp on motor and a ton on nitrous. In some ways, I want a dyno queen...for now. Once the 12 bolt goes in and some slicks go on, 10's will NOT be a problem.
If you want to run 11's, a Cobra is not a bad option, if you can get by the $25k price tag for a used one. If you want to run lower than that, it cost some dough. I've found this out from experience. I'm not ragging on Cobra's, JD is just too cocky for a 12 second ride.
Bah I had a huge post but I just said **** it and deleted it. Its not worth arguing over. If you really want to beileve that his car, even as it sits with no axle work and street tires, is only capable of a 12 second 1/4 go right ahead.
Maybe he cannot get traction like he says, maybe he just sucks at driving, maybe his track sucks, but the car is much faster than a mid/low 12 second machine. As I said before, simply do the math.
Do all the math you want. But my SLOWWWWWWWWWWW 12.0x car will still beat your much faster 12.5x (but capable of much better) car. Excuses, excuses. What else is expected from a bunch of kids.
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There's nothing wrong with my automatic....my computer in my car is messed up. It keeps throwing a TPS sensor, which is ****ing my tranny up. I can go 10's on the stock tranny/stock rearend with the automatic. A manual is another story. You pre-load the auto, thusly absorbing much of the shock to the rear end, vs dumping the clutch with a manual and hitting the rear with a ton of torque.
I went 1.66 short time with BONE stock suspension on Nitto's. Hell, I don't even have a shift kit.
The only reason I want a manual is so I can street race more, from any speed. It'll also dyno over 400rwhp on motor and a ton on nitrous. In some ways, I want a dyno queen...for now. Once the 12 bolt goes in and some slicks go on, 10's will NOT be a problem.
If you want to run 11's, a Cobra is not a bad option, if you can get by the $25k price tag for a used one. If you want to run lower than that, it cost some dough. I've found this out from experience. I'm not ragging on Cobra's, JD is just too cocky for a 12 second ride.
Bah I had a huge post but I just said **** it and deleted it. Its not worth arguing over. If you really want to beileve that his car, even as it sits with no axle work and street tires, is only capable of a 12 second 1/4 go right ahead.
Maybe he cannot get traction like he says, maybe he just sucks at driving, maybe his track sucks, but the car is much faster than a mid/low 12 second machine. As I said before, simply do the math.
Do all the math you want. But my SLOWWWWWWWWWWW 12.0x car will still beat your 12.5x (but capable of much better) car. Excuses, excuses. What else is expected from a bunch of kids.
Do you honestly think that with drag tires and different springs that im only gonna run 12's? If so then you are out of your mind.
There's nothing wrong with my automatic....my computer in my car is messed up. It keeps throwing a TPS sensor, which is ****ing my tranny up. I can go 10's on the stock tranny/stock rearend with the automatic. A manual is another story. You pre-load the auto, thusly absorbing much of the shock to the rear end, vs dumping the clutch with a manual and hitting the rear with a ton of torque.
I went 1.66 short time with BONE stock suspension on Nitto's. Hell, I don't even have a shift kit.
The only reason I want a manual is so I can street race more, from any speed. It'll also dyno over 400rwhp on motor and a ton on nitrous. In some ways, I want a dyno queen...for now. Once the 12 bolt goes in and some slicks go on, 10's will NOT be a problem.
If you want to run 11's, a Cobra is not a bad option, if you can get by the $25k price tag for a used one. If you want to run lower than that, it cost some dough. I've found this out from experience. I'm not ragging on Cobra's, JD is just too cocky for a 12 second ride.
Bah I had a huge post but I just said **** it and deleted it. Its not worth arguing over. If you really want to beileve that his car, even as it sits with no axle work and street tires, is only capable of a 12 second 1/4 go right ahead.
Maybe he cannot get traction like he says, maybe he just sucks at driving, maybe his track sucks, but the car is much faster than a mid/low 12 second machine. As I said before, simply do the math.
Do all the math you want. But my SLOWWWWWWWWWWW 12.0x car will still beat your 12.5x (but capable of much better) car. Excuses, excuses. What else is expected from a bunch of kids.
Do you honestly think that with drag tires and different springs that im only gonna run 12's? If so then you are out of your mind.
Thats not what I meant. I meant the way the car is NOW. My SLOWER car is FASTER!!!!!
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There's nothing wrong with my automatic....my computer in my car is messed up. It keeps throwing a TPS sensor, which is ****ing my tranny up. I can go 10's on the stock tranny/stock rearend with the automatic. A manual is another story. You pre-load the auto, thusly absorbing much of the shock to the rear end, vs dumping the clutch with a manual and hitting the rear with a ton of torque.
I went 1.66 short time with BONE stock suspension on Nitto's. Hell, I don't even have a shift kit.
The only reason I want a manual is so I can street race more, from any speed. It'll also dyno over 400rwhp on motor and a ton on nitrous. In some ways, I want a dyno queen...for now. Once the 12 bolt goes in and some slicks go on, 10's will NOT be a problem.
If you want to run 11's, a Cobra is not a bad option, if you can get by the $25k price tag for a used one. If you want to run lower than that, it cost some dough. I've found this out from experience. I'm not ragging on Cobra's, JD is just too cocky for a 12 second ride.
Bah I had a huge post but I just said **** it and deleted it. Its not worth arguing over. If you really want to beileve that his car, even as it sits with no axle work and street tires, is only capable of a 12 second 1/4 go right ahead.
Maybe he cannot get traction like he says, maybe he just sucks at driving, maybe his track sucks, but the car is much faster than a mid/low 12 second machine. As I said before, simply do the math.
Do all the math you want. But my SLOWWWWWWWWWWW 12.0x car will still beat your 12.5x (but capable of much better) car. Excuses, excuses. What else is expected from a bunch of kids.
Do you honestly think that with drag tires and different springs that im only gonna run 12's? If so then you are out of your mind.
So you think from Drag radials and springs you gonna pick up 2 seconds and over 10mph??????Can you get me some of those springs and tires my car will run 9s on D/R.The mph is all thats getting me the 351s run 117 stock.No matter how long I spin my tires for I always run the same mph(within 1 or 2 mph)Again I know your car is fast ,they all are but I just think somethings up if you cant run 11,s on pump gas or alteast 12s at over 125 but either way you'll get it straightend out and it will rip!I still have faith in the mighty cobra
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