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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/22/2005 5:50:54 PM
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David_K
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daniel contact CCS they have a set of MT and wheels for $550
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/22/2005 7:30:34 PM
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Yeah thats right you will beat that gixxer on the street from a roll. But at the track is a different story you may be able to outrun him still though. But JDaniel's car should be a tough comp for you properly modded with the suspension. I got your back on a lot of things but you were bashing him a little too much for me to sit there and just read. NOthing personal man but I got s to stick up for my mustang guy.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/22/2005 8:24:46 PM
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daniel contact CCS they have a set of MT and wheels for $550
I dont ever want to deal with Jim. I dont like his way of tuning. SO my business goes elsewhere.LOL
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/13/2005 8:51:57 PM
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First was the comment about "Take your drag radials off and then i'll run you"
Then came "As soon as i get my suspension done and some slicks i'll drive across the U.S and whip your ass"
And now we have " But i only paid $28,000 for my car and is still faster then the new ZO6.
Listen to your self you sound like a cry baby?your car is real sweet and should be hella fast, but at this point in time you can't hook up. so don't make excuses like " wait till i get slicks or take off your DR's or but i only paid $28,000" it only make you look bad.
In case you didn't know you drive a Mustang that is why you only paid $28,000
you are nowhere near the level of a standard vette let alone a new ZO6. just because you are faster does not mean your car is a better car!! it just says your car is faster in a straight line.
good luck with your car and i hope to see you in the 10's
P.S. and just because i have a T/A don't assume i'm jealous
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I know with the proper work the car will run better... but everyone here just doesnt believe it. I dont want anyone swinging from my nuts or to act in a jealous way. 98 is just eating it up that I ran a 12 second pass when I was only half throttle through the eighth. No matter how hard I try to explain that I was HALF THROTTLE he thinks he can "drag me down the 1320" in his slush-a-matic. It aint haooening. As soon as I get the suspension done and some slicks, I will be more than happy to drive across the U.S. to drag his ass down the 1320.
I take critism just fine... its stupidity & ignorance that I dont like putting up with.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/13/2005 9:44:30 PM
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First was the comment about "Take your drag radials off and then i'll run you"
Then came "As soon as i get my suspension done and some slicks i'll drive across the U.S and whip your ass"
And now we have " But i only paid $28,000 for my car and is still faster then the new ZO6.
Listen to your self you sound like a cry baby?your car is real sweet and should be hella fast, but at this point in time you can't hook up. so don't make excuses like " wait till i get slicks or take off your DR's or but i only paid $28,000" it only make you look bad.
In case you didn't know you drive a Mustang that is why you only paid $28,000
you are nowhere near the level of a standard vette let alone a new ZO6. just because you are faster does not mean your car is a better car!! it just says your car is faster in a straight line.
good luck with your car and i hope to see you in the 10's
P.S. and just because i have a T/A don't assume i'm jealous
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I know with the proper work the car will run better... but everyone here just doesnt believe it. I dont want anyone swinging from my nuts or to act in a jealous way. 98 is just eating it up that I ran a 12 second pass when I was only half throttle through the eighth. No matter how hard I try to explain that I was HALF THROTTLE he thinks he can "drag me down the 1320" in his slush-a-matic. It aint haooening. As soon as I get the suspension done and some slicks, I will be more than happy to drive across the U.S. to drag his ass down the 1320.
I take critism just fine... its stupidity & ignorance that I dont like putting up with.
Ummm... you're a N00B looking up threads about LS1's? LOL So far I have spanked a modded Z06 with BFG's at the track. You didnt respond to that thread, now did you? OOHH... did I fail to mention that I grinded second gear and he pulled a car on me and I still beat him by a car length? So what happened... did you get kicked off LS1Tech for being a T00L there also? 
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/13/2005 10:53:44 PM
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I know you guys are saying his absurd tire spin wont affect trap speed but, after applying physicis, I'm slightly confused. I'm by no means an expert so I guess I need a little help here.
Once again, I'm not saying anyone is wrong by anymeans at all. This is just a generalized statement.
How can he go fast if he doesnt have the traction? I thought you couldnt accelerate unless the tires were grabbing the ground? If what some were saying is completely true then there would be no need for slicks. If the tires are spinning, that means the power is being lost basically. Top Fuel dragsters dont run a 1.5" wide tire, if they did I'm absolutely positive that they wouldnt trap at 300+ MPH like they do on the fat slicks. I know hes not going to hit 140MPH, but theoretically with traction, his trap speed should increase because that 650hp is actually hitting the ground. This may sound foolish but, I just dont see how you can get the MPH if your spinning your tires all the way down the track. I'm by no means an expert, just taking a theoretical viewpoint based on physics. If anyone can educate me, please do so. 
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/13/2005 11:14:28 PM
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Tire spin usually creates mph in the 1/4.Every time my car spins real hard the mph goes 3 or 4 mph up.If my car hooks it loses about 4 mph but gains 5 or 6 tenths instead.Mostly the more tire spin the higher the mph.I know everyone gonna say WAAAAA how can you gp faster when you spiningWWWWAAAAAA but if you've been to the track for 15 years like myself you start to notice a pattern with cars and thats one
Edit: I ve said this before but here goes again Dyno #s DONT win races just cause it made 900 rwh doesnt mean that it will beat every car!My fiends cobra with an s-trim and a 347 made 587rwh and mine made 524 rwh (at that time) and he got his ass handed to him)sometimes the high horse power number doesnt meen its the fastest it could be,It mostly depends on were your power is and how your gears and every other mod is working with the current power band you have it tuned to.You want your car to have a nice power curve. just cause at 6800rpm it made 900 rwh dont meen crap.This statement isnt directed towards anyone just speaking in general
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/13/2005 11:23:33 PM
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I found this through Google:
For those people without access to a dyno, it is possible to roughly calculate the hp that you are developing by doing a 1/4 run. To be as accurate as possible, you need to know the weight of your car with you aboard. We can use the following formula:
Trap speed in mph, squared, divided by ET in seconds, times car weight in pounds, divided by 1000, divided by 9.1.
As an example, we have a 2800 lb. car which runs a 14.0 at 100 mph. 100 X 100 = 10,000. 10,000 divided by 14 = 714.2. 714.2 X 2.8 = 2000. 2000 divided by 9.1 = 220 hp.
As can be seen above, the ET has a smaller effect on the hp figure. A car with big speed at the end of the quarter even with a poor ET, is making a lot of power. A car with a good ET but low trap speed simply has good traction.
Not quite sure what to make of it though 
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/13/2005 11:25:30 PM
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99saleen351r
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
I found this through Google:
For those people without access to a dyno, it is possible to roughly calculate the hp that you are developing by doing a 1/4 run. To be as accurate as possible, you need to know the weight of your car with you aboard. We can use the following formula:
Trap speed in mph, squared, divided by ET in seconds, times car weight in pounds, divided by 1000, divided by 9.1.
As an example, we have a 2800 lb. car which runs a 14.0 at 100 mph. 100 X 100 = 10,000. 10,000 divided by 14 = 714.2. 714.2 X 2.8 = 2000. 2000 divided by 9.1 = 220 hp.
As can be seen above, the ET has a smaller effect on the hp figure. A car with big speed at the end of the quarter even with a poor ET, is making a lot of power. A car with a good ET but low trap speed simply has good traction.
Not quite sure what to make of it though
On paper....ya maybe but at the track (were it counts) it doesnt work like that
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/13/2005 11:54:12 PM
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94Cbra
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Tire spin usually creates mph in the 1/4.Every time my car spins real hard the mph goes 3 or 4 mph up.If my car hooks it loses about 4 mph but gains 5 or 6 tenths instead.Mostly the more tire spin the higher the mph.I know everyone gonna say WAAAAA how can you gp faster when you spiningWWWWAAAAAA but if you've been to the track for 15 years like myself you start to notice a pattern with cars and thats one
Edit: I ve said this before but here goes again Dyno #s DONT win races just cause it made 900 rwh doesnt mean that it will beat every car!My fiends cobra with an s-trim and a 347 made 587rwh and mine made 524 rwh (at that time) and he got his ass handed to him)sometimes the high horse power number doesnt meen its the fastest it could be,It mostly depends on were your power is and how your gears and every other mod is working with the current power band you have it tuned to.You want your car to have a nice power curve. just cause at 6800rpm it made 900 rwh dont meen crap.This statement isnt directed towards anyone just speaking in general
I see exactly what your saying and I agree. I was just getting a little compfuzzled because some people were making things sound extreme. I dunno?
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/14/2005 12:49:03 AM
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You guys are all slow and I will own you all!.........................JK but I can see this thread turning into about 137 pages long.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/14/2005 12:52:25 AM
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Wow. I just now noticed this thread and I sat and read it all. All 6 pages. I have never been to a track to race, only to watch. But to back up the people on the traction issue: Say you spin hard. Like say from 0-30. When you eventually catch traction, or 100% traction.... you will be moving roughly 20mph. So you have momentum behind you and your car will launch forward. You will lose ET obviously as you sat and spun for x period of time. You will actually gain MPH because of this fact: You are actually starting from a roll with a lot of track left in front of you as you didn't waste much space when you were spinning. (Maybe this doesn't make sense after I typed it, but that is the reason, I assure you.) I think it is sad that no body on here could just say 'Hey man nice run'. If I had half as much HP to the ground as JDan, I'd sit in my car and touch myself. I would also love to be able to go run the 1320. I wouldn't care if I ran 20s, I'd be tickled because I think it would just be something neat to do. JDan, don't let everyone bust your balls. I think your car is pretty sweet, and just like I said, I wish I was putting down those numbers. You'll always have people talkin bad... Just look at Code3GT. He has a mag feature worthy, 11(i think) second all motor car, and there's still people that put down his car. Take it in stride, and keep workin on it. Oh and.... Hey man, nice run! 
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/14/2005 7:34:21 AM
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nanaki
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this thread is neat. people keep bring up the same points over and over again. worded differently of course. i think some other people need to hit the prev button before they post, they can probably answer their own post before even posting it.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/14/2005 8:33:58 AM
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ORIGINAL: 99saleen351r
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
I found this through Google:
For those people without access to a dyno, it is possible to roughly calculate the hp that you are developing by doing a 1/4 run. To be as accurate as possible, you need to know the weight of your car with you aboard. We can use the following formula:
Trap speed in mph, squared, divided by ET in seconds, times car weight in pounds, divided by 1000, divided by 9.1.
As an example, we have a 2800 lb. car which runs a 14.0 at 100 mph. 100 X 100 = 10,000. 10,000 divided by 14 = 714.2. 714.2 X 2.8 = 2000. 2000 divided by 9.1 = 220 hp.
As can be seen above, the ET has a smaller effect on the hp figure. A car with big speed at the end of the quarter even with a poor ET, is making a lot of power. A car with a good ET but low trap speed simply has good traction.
Not quite sure what to make of it though
On paper....ya maybe but at the track (were it counts) it doesnt work like that
Thats exactly how it works at the track. Thats why you see these 700 hp single turbo Supras run 12.30 @ 155 mph. You know?
One more time...Everyone say it with me. The MPH number is in direct relation to the power that the car is putting to the ground. NOT the ET.
< Message edited by Sidewayz6.0 -- 7/14/2005 8:36:30 AM >
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/14/2005 8:37:36 AM
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nanaki
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The MPH number is in direct relation to the power that the car is putting to the ground. NOT the ET.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/14/2005 8:38:38 AM
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Saying it with me? LOL
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 7/14/2005 8:50:35 AM
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Saying it with me? LOL
yeah.. just looking out for ya. 
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