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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:13:57 PM
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jdaniel
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No, you're right. 117 is more than likely a mid 11 pass. But remember you're going to trap a little higher spinning street tires.
Even so. I think you need to spend some time working on the suspension. Theres no reason to be shooting for 11's with 600 hp to the tire. That time should start with a 10. So before you start getting crazy, set the car up the right way.
Yeah... thats what the guys at Strictly Performance said. Its going into storage for a year while im in Iraq and as soon as I get back I will tear into the suspension. 
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:16:14 PM
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I didn't jump to any conclusion or say your times sucked for street tires. I am saying your MPH doesn't match your HP. Wether you missed a shift, spun to the 1/8 mile. If your floor on the top end your MPH will still be close. What was the mPH on all your passes? I bet they were all 116-118. Any car making 592 RWHP should be traping well over 125mph even if its 3900 pounds and has a 3.0 60 ft
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:23:47 PM
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66chevyIISS
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I am not trying to be a dick, maybe you have a fuel problem?? Do you have a fuel pressure guage? maybe you are losing fuel pressure on the top end. Running on a dyno and running with a load on the car is different.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:25:22 PM
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JD1969
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592 RWHP and mid 12's hehe you gotta hang out with the Supra crowd now!!
but 117 mph seems WAY WAY low for 592rwhp. something doesn't seem right. Your only picking up 7mph with 200 more HP then stock?
Like I said in the beginning... Im not getting on it till im in third or I will break loose. If I power shift it into third I will break loose. Most of you guys here have yet to drive anything with 450+ hp and dont know what its like. So jumping to conclusions and saying that mid 12's @ 117 mph on street tires isnt right obvisously have no clue.
Actually JDanial he is correct, spinning will have little effect on your mph. I bet I have drivin plenty cars over 450 hp and have the track time to back up any statement that I make. So even spinning in 1st and 2nd the mph is still going to be close. Look at it this way I used to run 11.4 @118 mph in my Nova, and that car would hook on any track, and I only put about 425-430 to the wheels, yes the car was lighter (3500 lbs with driver) so just for comparisons sake going by the numbers you used if you can hook the car I see it going mid 11's. Now if you can get your 60' time to come around you will ET alot better. FWIW that 2.0 60' is pretty good for a street tire, the car must have lost traction at the top of 1st and bottom of 2nd.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:28:25 PM
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Ok... let me spell this out for you because obvisously you have selective memory problems and dont want to realize the fact of what I said...
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DONT
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FULLY
INTO
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TILL
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HIT
THIRD
GEAR!!!
Now... Do you understand that im not at wide open throttle from start to finish and if I do I will spin? I have tried feathering the gas and clutch an its useless on street tires. Im not trying to be a dick either and I understand that you are trying to get to the point that I dont have 592 to the wheels. But as soon as that is brought up, I will show the dyno video and make the non believers look like idiots.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:32:37 PM
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66chevyIISS
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nevermind, post up the mph from your other slips though
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:37:10 PM
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I only ran three times and both runs were like 117 and 118 mph and the ET was 12.7 on both of them. I dont have the slips though because they blew out the window when I let them down at the end of the quarter. LOL They wasnt that good anyways.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:39:21 PM
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Damn dude....even going WOT in 3rd I was expecting a 120+ trap. 2.0 short time ain't great, but it's not the worst. Hell, I usually have my highest traps when I spin, as you're supposed to.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:39:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: jdaniel
Ok... let me spell this out for you because obvisously you have selective memory problems and dont want to realize the fact of what I said...
I
DONT
GET
FULLY
INTO
IT
TILL
I
HIT
THIRD
GEAR!!!
Now... Do you understand that im not at wide open throttle from start to finish and if I do I will spin? I have tried feathering the gas and clutch an its useless on street tires. Im not trying to be a dick either and I understand that you are trying to get to the point that I dont have 592 to the wheels. But as soon as that is brought up, I will show the dyno video and make the non believers look like idiots.
What you're missing is that even if you roll out easy, then run out 3rd and 4th, you're still going to mph around the same number. Thats all he was trying to say. You've been to the track enough to know that.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:46:24 PM
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JD1969
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ORIGINAL: jdaniel
Ok... let me spell this out for you because obvisously you have selective memory problems and dont want to realize the fact of what I said...
I
DONT
GET
FULLY
INTO
IT
TILL
I
HIT
THIRD
GEAR!!!
Now... Do you understand that im not at wide open throttle from start to finish and if I do I will spin? I have tried feathering the gas and clutch an its useless on street tires. Im not trying to be a dick either and I understand that you are trying to get to the point that I dont have 592 to the wheels. But as soon as that is brought up, I will show the dyno video and make the non believers look like idiots.
I really hope you are not directing that comment my way. Listen man I know what I am talking about, an I understand that you are not getting into the gas fully untill third gear, but it will still have little to do with your MPH. If you don't beleive me, try this next time you go to the track. Start out normal in first gear and wait till you get to the 60' mark now hammer the gas and make a pass, on your next run launch like you have been doing, make a full pass. Now compare the MPH of both runs and tell me what you see.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:48:12 PM
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jdaniel
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ORIGINAL: jdaniel
Ok... let me spell this out for you because obvisously you have selective memory problems and dont want to realize the fact of what I said...
I
DONT
GET
FULLY
INTO
IT
TILL
I
HIT
THIRD
GEAR!!!
Now... Do you understand that im not at wide open throttle from start to finish and if I do I will spin? I have tried feathering the gas and clutch an its useless on street tires. Im not trying to be a dick either and I understand that you are trying to get to the point that I dont have 592 to the wheels. But as soon as that is brought up, I will show the dyno video and make the non believers look like idiots.
I really hope you are not directing that comment my way. Listen man I know what I am talking about, an I understand that you are not getting into the gas fully untill third gear, but it will still have little to do with your MPH. If you don't beleive me, try this next time you go to the track. Start out normal in first gear and wait till you get to the 60' mark now hammer the gas and make a pass, on your next run launch like you have been doing, compare the MPH of both runs and tell what you see.
No, I was talking to the 66ChevyIISS guy.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 12:57:52 PM
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66chevyIISS
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****, I have time slips that go from 12.47@110 - 15.3@110 all due to traction but my mph is always within 1 or 2 mph.
if it's direct at me then its directed at everyone, they all repeated what I said 
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 1:13:07 PM
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jdaniel
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Congrats on the new ride JD!
And yea, somethings definately wrong. Trap speed indicates horsepower, not traction like a few others already said. Besides, you were well into 3rd gear by the 1/8th mile and you didn't pickup much mph (90 to 117)... thats about average for a 400 hp car, not one with 592. Im sure you werent spinning the tires to 90mph. I think you should get that thing dyno'd for yourself. Was the 592hp with jacked up timing and race gas?
Thanks, Joe. I did get it dyno'd and tuned last Thursday at Strictly performance in Houston. It put down 592. I think im gonna run some 106 octane on my next trip. My timing is set at 22 degrees so I think it will handle it easily. I was running 93 octane also. This is also on the stock clutch and im not sure if its holding the greatest. LOL
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 1:23:17 PM
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wow everyone was on Jdaniels nuts for running awesome times with is GT now that he has a Cobra and has been to the track once and with street tires everyones quick to judge his ride. honestly Jdaniel i think you should just get a VW bug those things are supa fast yo and im sure you'll reel in all the ladies
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 1:38:26 PM
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wow everyone was on Jdaniels nuts for running awesome times with is GT now that he has a Cobra and has been to the track once and with street tires everyones quick to judge his ride. honestly Jdaniel i think you should just get a VW bug those things are supa fast yo and im sure you'll reel in all the ladies
Dude not all of are on his nuts, I am actually pointing out some things that might be usefull. TDI might have been alittle harsh but he did have a point. So you think a full bolt on car running 13.0 is awsome? Don't confuse people trying to help with people who are being a dick, the facts are 117-118 mph from a 600 rwhp car is not right, he should be trapping at 125 mph or better.
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RE: First run at the track for the Cobra... - 6/15/2005 1:38:58 PM
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I am quite certain that with some practice, you could run 11's on street tires. I will say that the mph is a little lower than I thought it might be, with or without spinning. One thing you can do that may help is short shift a little in the lower gears. Did you run it at night? Did you take a decent chunk of air out of the rears?
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