the thought of running 35psi on a turbo is great and eveyrthing but number one 35psi is useless, if you dont have anything to back it up, you wont be making any power at 35psi, more boost does not mean more power...not even to mention that not every turbo is capable of running 35psi....alot of turbos, The very hi-tech ones aside, have a compressor surge at anything more than 30 (not saying all turbo's or the one on "your buddy's car" or the the one thats one "this guy you know" or "this guy who owns this shop").....and deisels come stock with anywhere from 15-20psi of boosy anything and the dealer woouldnt be ableto issue a warranty for the vehicles....****s breaks when you raise boost to astronomical level.
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Bsing huh? ok. 350 hp in a 2400 lb car will go faster than you think it will.
who cares about crash test ratings? I won't be going through the windshield anytime soon.
Indeed. I've seen 2250 pound Civic's with barely over 200 fwhp run high 12's. Stock LS blocked cars (1.8) with an SC61 and not much else make close to 400 fwhp. Built, sleeved 1.8's make 500+ horsepower, 1.8 blocks bored and sleeved to 2.0 make close to 700 horsepower at 38 psi.
A friends Civic with a 1.6 liter b16 runs 11 psi daily and made 372 front wheel horsepower. Not to mention AWD talon/eclipses that are DAMN near stock and run 22-23 psi and can run high 11's and such.
There's plenty of ways to turbocharge a car, and in regards to "anyone can turbocharge a Civic" .. anyone could do the same to a 2.3L Mustang. How much power and reliability you plan to have is based on how much you're willing to spend. Want to hit 11's real quick? Buy a turbo car, such as a supercoupe Mustang, turbo 4 clyinder and pump up the boost, or build a cheap boosted LS Honda.
Both could be made MUCH more reliable with more money and time and knowledge.
Speed, Reliability, Cheapness. Pick 2 of the 3, because that's all you're gonna get.
Yes I know that. What I'm saying is 35 psi is 2.4 times earths atmosphere. I have never seen a stock engine ever handle that without putting a rod or a headgasket out of commission.
RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 8/23/2005 6:29:53 PM
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Yes I know that. What I'm saying is 35 psi is 2.4 times earths atmosphere. I have never seen a stock engine ever handle that without putting a rod or a headgasket out of commission.
Diesil dude.
It's diesel. and we were talking about a 2.3L 4 cyl Turbo Mustang... not a diesel truck.
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i wonder what would win. That twin turbo stang, or the black cobra that was at the same shop on a dif vid? I think the cobra had a kenne bell but not sure.
Saleen 351.... Your deffinitly naive. You should just say "no one should turbo charge a four cylinder" but you cant say that because that would make you a hypocrite. An internal combustion engine, basicly works the same no matter what size the displacement. A form of turbo charging just increases the power output. Sure you can take a 350 and turbo charge that, but you can also take a small four cylinder which weights probably 1/3 the weight and make over 400hp and up. Then you can put that motor in a lotus, or s2000. keeping the weight down and the weight ratio close to 50/50. Instead of having a nose heaving chevy. Sometimes bigger isnt better. theres a reason champ cars use. turbocharged 2.6 liter v-8 motors instead of a turbocharged 5.8 liter v-8.
Thiss may have been said already but the reason most formula and other types of race cars use 2.6 and smaller 4 and 6 cylinder engines is because the sport they are in limits the displacement on the engines they run.
sure alot of ricers use turbos to keep up with us. but when we go Forced they have to think and thats hard for them. *theres no replacement for displacement*
Now see i dont know why you have to come out and make fun of Imports, Dont hate becuz im 3.0 Liters smaller then most of you guys im all motor and i can Beat / Rape the **** outa most your cars " FWD BABY ", i mean i got nuttin wrong with Muscle i own a Camaro, but whats worse with you guys is you Own PONY'S what do you expect to do with them things?, i thought them things went out in the 80's early 90's?? dont make me hit up footlooker and go get me a pair of Pony's
BTW you guys can keep all that HP and Tq in the long run your gunna need it
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yea i did, i hate how you guys Swear to God you have Big balls or something.. just wait till you get a Real Import Driver to pull next to you, these Ricers give us a bad name. just like the Pony drivers that Add neons to 4or 6 cyl stangs!!
to have any sort of reliability when putting in a turbo or even supercharging your car, you are going to have to basically rebuild the bottom end or else the engine will basically blow up. ive put a lot of money into my car already (motor pulled out and gone over, new cnc H beam rods, forged 2618 alloy pistons, gapless moly rings,stock crank was polished, new arp bolts,new bearings, new ported and polished patriot stage 1 heads, ported polished stock upper intake,cold air intake,king cobra clutch put in a year ago, new u joints, the rear was rebuilt with stock 3.27 gears, new summit adjustable clutch quadrant & firewall adjuster,new SLP catback ,new tinted headlights,new clear foglights, cobra brakes on front and rear.) and now it is finally ready to run a turbo, NOS, or a supercharger. Go ahead, buy a turbo and put it on your stock engine, see how long that engine lasts.
yea i did, i hate how you guys Swear to God you have Big balls or something.. just wait till you get a Real Import Driver to pull next to you, these Ricers give us a bad name. just like the Pony drivers that Add neons to 4or 6 cyl stangs!!
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Dont hate becuz im 3.0 Liters smaller then most of you guys im all motor and i can Beat / Rape the **** outa most your cars
Dont sing it bring it....Little ricer boy.....Please let this TOPIC DIE
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A newbie signs on to post on a topic that ended on 6/22 to have every other newbie to post there 2 cents as to why we bust on ricers??????Cause its a mustang forum!!!!WHY WHY WHY LET IT DIE DIE DIE........ PLEASE ITS TIME................................
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A newbie signs on to post on a topic that ended on 6/22 to have every other newbie to post there 2 cents to??????WHY WHY WHY LET IT DIE DIE DIE PLEASE ITS TIME................................
A newbie signs on to post on a topic that ended on 6/22 to have every other newbie to post there 2 cents to??????WHY WHY WHY LET IT DIE DIE DIE PLEASE ITS TIME................................
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to have any sort of reliability when putting in a turbo or even supercharging your car, you are going to have to basically rebuild the bottom end or else the engine will basically blow up. ive put a lot of money into my car already (motor pulled out and gone over, new cnc H beam rods, forged 2618 alloy pistons, gapless moly rings,stock crank was polished, new arp bolts,new bearings, new ported and polished patriot stage 1 heads, ported polished stock upper intake,cold air intake,king cobra clutch put in a year ago, new u joints, the rear was rebuilt with stock 3.27 gears, new summit adjustable clutch quadrant & firewall adjuster,new SLP catback ,new tinted headlights,new clear foglights, cobra brakes on front and rear.) and now it is finally ready to run a turbo, NOS, or a supercharger. Go ahead, buy a turbo and put it on your stock engine, see how long that engine lasts.
haha...i'll let ya know
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Own PONY'S what do you expect to do with them things?, i thought them things went out in the 90's?
Sorry guy but that was the Camaro's that went out in the 90's not STANGS.
well i was Talking about the Shoes, and yea imo Camaros were out in the 70's after the 67-68 and 69 body styles they killed it,
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Dont hate becuz im 3.0 Liters smaller then most of you guys im all motor and i can Beat / Rape the **** outa most your cars
Dont sing it bring it....Little ricer boy.....Please let this TOPIC DIE
like it says i got 2.0 liters and ill whoop your ass. no doubt mustangs got power but just becuz most do doesnt make them all, believe me i had a mustang driver almost wreck his car tryna catch me but you dont see me making fun of him, yea i eat rice so what, just one word of advise Dont sleep on Hondas... you got alot that are all show no go but then you get the serious ones
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like it says i got 2.0 liters and ill whoop your ass. no doubt mustangs got power but just becuz most do doesnt make them all, believe me i had a mustang driver almost wreck his car tryna catch me but you dont see me making fun of him, yea i eat rice so what, just one word of advise Dont sleep on Hondas... you got alot that are all show no go but then you get the serious ones
interpreter please.
and the fact that you come in and claim to be able to whoop everyone proves a lot about you and your silly "2.0L"
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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 8/26/2005 6:45:14 PM
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like it says i got 2.0 liters and ill whoop your ass. no doubt mustangs got power but just becuz most do doesnt make them all, believe me i had a mustang driver almost wreck his car tryna catch me but you dont see me making fun of him, yea i eat rice so what, just one word of advise Dont sleep on Hondas... you got alot that are all show no go but then you get the serious ones
bahahahahhahaaha
Ok, I'm an import guy myself here. But I implore you to search and look for 351s track times before you tell him you'll whoop his ass.
and please, stop talking like you'll own everyone here until you actually give us a build, dyno sheet and a scanned track time of 11.2s or faster... you're just making me look bad here, and I really don't appreciate it.
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