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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:33:02 AM   
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takes alittle work and modifying but i can do it =P heres a website that gives me alittle info on how to make a 400+ horse turbo 2.3L

not 35psi but still i think you get the point. http://www.mustangforums.com/m_542956/mpage_3/tm.htm

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:35:46 AM   
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big oops... http://www.rothfam.com/svo/400hp.htm

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:40:33 AM   
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So are EJ20/25ts and 4g63s, but they will not handle 35 psi on the stock internals. I highly doubt a 19 year old engine with 1970s techonology will outhandle an engine that was engineered and built with 2002+ technology.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:41:23 AM   
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i bet ya it will

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:43:17 AM   
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16-17 psi is FAR FAR from 35. 35 psi is more than double atmospheric pressure.

A stock Escort GT engine will handle 14 psi on stock internals, and will put down 350 hp.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:46:27 AM   
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doesnt mean the Escort GT will keep up. the Ford SOHC 2.3L engine is an amazing engine. as you can see it wouldnt cost me much to hit 400hp which is STI eating material. yes yes i was ****ing about the 35psi thing. just wanted to see what MR honda boy would do =P plus ya gotta think a 1970's car vs a 2000 car in a crash test head on. which one would leave with less dmg. a 70's chevelle vs a 2000 Civic SI.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:48:19 AM   
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Bsing huh? ok. 350 hp in a 2400 lb car will go faster than you think it will.

who cares about crash test ratings? I won't be going through the windshield anytime soon.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:54:22 AM   
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With the right fuel and tune mods, intercooler and whatnot, you can run 35 psi, its been done. Usually with an alky mix; its detonation you have to contend with, I never heard about someone with lower internal probs.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:55:05 AM   
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point is cars were built harder back then. if the 1970's PINTO engine was so bad why did ford use it in the SVO mustang? producing 205hp in its last year. which is the equivalent of 2x's the power out of the 5.0L at the time. and 400hp in a 2800lb car will go faster than you think. my dad has a 5000lb car that ran 12's and your point? all racing is, is power:weight ratio. more power in the lighter car you have = the faster you go. so my car being under 3000lbs will do decent on the track. im building mine not for drag but for turns.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:57:56 AM   
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quote:

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I highly doubt a 19 year old engine with 1970s techonology will outhandle an engine that was engineered and built with 2002+ technology.


Depends on the purpose of the engine build. Were cuts made to save cost? Reliability sacrificed for performance? I'm telling you man, look at the SHO. My brother had one and the cams were famous for coming apart at about 80,000 miles, not to mention that they had those coil packs on the plugs and changing them was huge $$$. I'll take old tech please. lol

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:58:26 AM   
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My point is you don't need 500 hp in a 2400 lb car to get 12s.

But before you threw this off topic with crash test ratings and specific 2.3 talk was that Joe is a tool and the 2.3 won't handle 35 psi on the stock internals. If you can get it tuned with that much compression, it's not going to last long.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:59:51 AM   
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I said something naughty, but Obsol3te Fixed it Right Up For Me!

< Message edited by Obsol3te -- 6/6/2005 6:29:52 PM >


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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 1:59:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 2000Si
I highly doubt a 19 year old engine with 1970s techonology will outhandle an engine that was engineered and built with 2002+ technology.


Depends on the purpose of the engine build. Were cuts made to save cost? Reliability sacrificed for performance? I'm telling you man, look at the SHO. My brother had one and the cams were famous for coming apart at about 80,000 miles, not to mention that they had those coil packs on the plugs and changing them was huge $$$. I'll take old tech please. lol



SHO's were never turbocharged. I'm talking STOCK TURBOCHARGED ENGINES HANDLING XX PSI. I know all about the 3.4 SHO engines, but in this case I could care less about what they do.

Stop throwing this off topic with inane nonsense that has nothing to do with what we were talking about.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 2:00:40 AM   
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yeah im a tool i tighten things and loosen em. like i did your mom before you were born. she can sit on a stool and slide down it now cant she?


no no, not you Joe, Joe99 is a tool. I forgot the 99 in there. lol

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 2:01:23 AM   
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lol ok good. me sorry for that comment then.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 2:01:42 AM   
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So I must be a tool too then, because I've been into the 2.3T for years, have two of them, and I say it could!

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 2:02:18 AM   
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Then do it Mag, I'd like to see how long a completely stock internaled 2.3 handles 35 psi.

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 2:03:51 AM   
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well if it runs and lets you go full throttle for a minute the first time lets just say it can handle it. but if it blows itself to **** the minute you romp on the engine then it cant handle it. whose to say top fuel dragsters cant handle what they are doing. they run for the 1/4 mile and then rebuild the engine =P

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 2:09:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

Stop throwing this off topic with inane nonsense that has nothing to do with what we were talking about.


It certainly does have something to do with it. You were talking about new tech vs old tech.


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ORIGINAL: 2000Si


Then do it Mag, I'd like to see how long a completely stock internaled 2.3 handles 35 psi.


I dont need to do everything myself to know its been done. Isn't there anyone who doesnt cry bs on everything they dont know about? Sheeesh... I suppose you would also disagree that you can make over 400 hp on the stock internals?

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RE: To all those people who say TURBO's are RICE! - 6/2/2005 2:23:14 AM   
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I don't disagree with that, because I believe forged internals can handle 17 psi. But I don't believe 35 psi, and neither of you have yet to show me any proof of a reliable stock internaled 35 psi 2.3.

I don't know everything about the 2.3, but I do know something about living within the realms of reality and simple engine dynamics.

and no, the reliability of a SHO engine has nothing to do with this. That's the inane stuff I was talking about.

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