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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/14/2005 9:59:49 PM   
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Right now I am in Michigan racing, but when I get home I will pm you my phone # and we can chat. Ever go out to Firebird?

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/15/2005 9:44:39 AM   
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There musta hve been something wrong withthat 04 cobra if you pulled that hard on him.He should have had no problem beating you.IMO

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/15/2005 6:06:25 PM   
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Before I reply, keep in mind I like the Cobra (I almost bought one).

My car is the 05 LS2 rated @ 400HP/400TQ not the '04 LS1 GTO rated @ 350HP/365TQ: see attached STOCK Dyno comparison

Here is what the magazines say (I know they can't drive and times are different with driver and car, but this is a good general idea)

----------------2004 Cobra--------------------------2005 GTO
0-60-----------5.0 (C&D 2004)---------------------4.8 (AutoWeek)
1/4 Mile-------13.4 @ 107 (C&D 2004)------------13.3@107 (AutoWeek)
Weight---------3,690--------------------------------3,725 (only a 35lb difference)

So a pretty close comparison according to them.

Plus I have driven both cars (HARD), and I can tell you the GTO is a beast on the highway and flat out go's. IMO the Cobra is more of a "race" car and is better designed for cornering and coming hard off the twisties.

Here are some things about the GTO you may or may not know:

1.) Car has traction control which prevents it from spinning tires (slower 1/4 mile times, and no fun) when I turn off traction control I can spin the tires at will even in third.

2.) Shifter on GTO flat out SUCKS, I have never had more mis-shifts on any vehicle before. (that will be changed soon)

3.) Stock tires on GTO suck too. (I run a nice set of 245/40ZR18 Azini's, it made a huge difference)

4.) 2004 GTO has serious wheel hop issues, that has been corrected in 2005 (huge difference) but still some squat.

All in all both are great cars, I like the GTO and it is nicing having something everyone else doesn't.

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/15/2005 7:02:22 PM   
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I wouldn't take that 13.4 for the Cobra to heart....

Stock for stock, I don't see a GTO beating a Cobra with equal drivers. Most guys have no problem hitting 12's with bone stock Cobra's. They're quite potent.

You need a dry kit.

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/16/2005 12:11:55 AM   
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It's hard to tell.... I know the Cobra's are supposedly under-rated, and they would have to be to pull 12's stock. Most people with the bone stock LS2 GTO's I've seen are pulling 12.9 - 13.3.

Are there any bone stock Cobra's out there ???? Most every Cobra owner I have talked to has the "need for speed" and has modded it one way or the other.

That is the nice thing about them is the after market.

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/16/2005 12:49:51 AM   
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It's very hard to compare cars just on numbers, my STi that I just sold did 13.3 stock and 12.7 with a downpipe and ECU tune. It would also get spanked from a role by either the GTO or Cobra with or with out mods. It's stregth was putting down power on the street with no fuss and was easy to drive at 10/10ths. I sold it because the mid priced sedan class is to big and very expensive for the One Lap of America, but less $30,000 Gt with over 3.8 liters is almost empty and was won by a stock 05 stang with minor suspension mods. It is also insanely expensive to break 500whp in a STi, upwards of $10-15k. Seems much cheaper in LS1 or 4.6. Everyone test drive all the cool cars and buy what you like and can afford, just stop bickering like a bunch of hormonal 13 girls.

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/16/2005 9:56:49 AM   
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You got that right!

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/16/2005 11:30:33 AM   
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Cobras are the same with tons of wheel hop and traction control(I believe) my 99 saleen has it but its disconnected but the cobra will run 12s easy stock if you can drive.Dont get me wrong the GTOs are very fast but the cobra is faster.I hate magazine specs they dont mean crap and usually are wrong especially C/D.Either way Good kill

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 4:26:18 AM   
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I'm calling a fake, maybe it was a ripoff cobra, a gt possibly, I dunno, i'm bonestock and I don't think i'd have any problem with a gto, most gto owners and the cts owners agree i'd stripe them...byt he way the cobra mishifts constantly when your running, bad wheel hop also....Cobra is 0-60 4.5 seconds and stock 12.9 1/4. GTO can't compare...

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 2:14:08 PM   
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quote:

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I'm calling a fake, maybe it was a ripoff cobra, a gt possibly, I dunno, i'm bonestock and I don't think i'd have any problem with a gto, most gto owners and the cts owners agree i'd stripe them...byt he way the cobra mishifts constantly when your running, bad wheel hop also....Cobra is 0-60 4.5 seconds and stock 12.9 1/4. GTO can't compare...


you need to check a few things..... you are probably speaking to LS1 GTO owners, which definately will not hang with a cobra. As for the CTS-V that is an LS-6 and yes is still slower than the LS2 GTO.

As for the specs... No where does it state that the 04' Cobra does 0-60 in 4.5 or 12.9 in 1/4 mile.... but I know that it will, likewise I also know the 05' LS2 GTO stock is pulling 12.9 1/4 miles too. If that is the case then how can you say they can't compare???

Plus, have you even driven these other cars? I would guess not, what are you 18 or something?

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 5:21:21 PM   
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A stock cobra will run 13.0-12.9 stock I have seen them do it out at the track over and over. There stock 0-60 is 4.5.

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 6:15:11 PM   
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A stock cobra will run 13.0-12.9 stock I have seen them do it out at the track over and over. There stock 0-60 is 4.5.


I know that... Did I ever say it couldn't??

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 6:19:57 PM   
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Listen joker, im sorry your car is not as fast as a cobra.
Go run a stock gt and feel better about yourself...

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 6:28:36 PM   
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Listen joker, im sorry your car is not as fast as a cobra.
Go run a stock gt and feel better about yourself...



I wouldn't expect any less of a reply from you.... LOL You Tool

Besides you asked the question... i'm just a messenger.

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 6:44:03 PM   
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Well you suck as a messenger so I suggest you investyour time in another job...

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 7:12:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LS2_GTO

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hisss04Cobra

I'm calling a fake, maybe it was a ripoff cobra, a gt possibly, I dunno, i'm bonestock and I don't think i'd have any problem with a gto, most gto owners and the cts owners agree i'd stripe them...byt he way the cobra mishifts constantly when your running, bad wheel hop also....Cobra is 0-60 4.5 seconds and stock 12.9 1/4. GTO can't compare...


you need to check a few things..... you are probably speaking to LS1 GTO owners, which definately will not hang with a cobra. As for the CTS-V that is an LS-6 and yes is still slower than the LS2 GTO.

As for the specs... No where does it state that the 04' Cobra does 0-60 in 4.5 or 12.9 in 1/4 mile.... but I know that it will, likewise I also know the 05' LS2 GTO stock is pulling 12.9 1/4 miles too. If that is the case then how can you say they can't compare???

Plus, have you even driven these other cars? I would guess not, what are you 18 or something?

Don't bother arguing with these guys, you won't get anyware

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 8:34:47 PM   
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Yea, its pointless. Not like arguing on Corralnet, or LS1tech, where people are acutally educated, not just brand blind. "OMG, it's a Chevy, no way it can be fast!." I realize the grammar in that sentence far exceeds most of the users here, so it's not really accurate.

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 10:03:47 PM   
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Damn this was a funny thread. Finally got done reading it all. Just go race a damn cobra, or if you have a cobra go race a GTO. That'll settle it for you (not speaking to anyone directly). I think the goat will do well and possibly win, really a drivers race I think.

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/17/2005 10:15:10 PM   
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my guess is a drivers race.

set up a race to c. o yah btw make sure u tape it

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RE: 04 Cobra vs 05 GTO? - 7/18/2005 12:27:22 AM   
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Listen joker, im sorry your car is not as fast as a cobra.
Go run a stock gt and feel better about yourself...

Not trying to start sh*t but damn your cocky for having a stock car

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