http://srvidz.vidiac.com/player.aspx?fileid=1BF870F3-B471-479B-8E5F-8BCF61D2EB57

Click it.

The Camaro is street legal. It's just no daily driver.

Mmmmm....CamEro! [8D]

Small block btw.

Big cubes + power adder = God.

finally someone beat that friggin thing...and it only took a big nasty camaro ;)

LOL. Watch the Cobra in the start of the film its Grey then later on its shows a drak color one. Then during the race Look at the RPMs on the dash of the Cobra.. 4,000 rpms LOL wonder what gear he was using 6th? I know EVOs can be made fast etc heck even my lawn mower can with enough money but the point is this to much fishy stuff with that EVO and the films. I mean if im wrong im wrong , but cant help point out the strange stuff.

maro ftw.
Thought the cobra woulda had him, oh schwell

A 300 Shot, WTF

Evo woulda had him if he didnt spray

Stinger, that's the same EVO that walked two other 600rwhp Cobra's. This particular Cobra in this vid actually post on SVTPerformance and he said the thing moves the **** out.

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A 300 Shot, WTF

Evo woulda had him if he didnt spray


Haha, what if the EVO had 2 jelly beans and a dollar? I bet he so would have kicked that Camaro's ass. Or if the EVO had 35psi and a nitrous, then he probably would have won! Oh wait...no, he wouldn't.

Go away already, you're a ricer. You have no idea what a fast car is. You're new to the internet. You have yet to learn. Go to a dragstrip on a test n' tune night, watch for yourself. Do something to find out that your precious imports are generally SLOW!

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Stinger, that's the same EVO that walked two other 600rwhp Cobra's. This particular Cobra in this vid actually post on SVTPerformance and he said the thing moves the **** out.

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A 300 Shot, WTF

Evo woulda had him if he didnt spray


Haha, what if the EVO had 2 jelly beans and a dollar? I bet he so would have kicked that Camaro's ass. Or if the EVO had 35psi and a nitrous, then he probably would have won! Oh wait...no, he wouldn't.

Go away already, you're a ricer. You have no idea what a fast car is. You're new to the internet. You have yet to learn. Go to a dragstrip on a test n' tune night, watch for yourself. Do something to find out that your precious imports are generally SLOW!


Did you even watch the vidoe? The camaro was pulling on him, but not by alot, and he had a 300 SHOT, if he didnt spray, the evo would of had him indefinately, even if the evo didnt spray and it was motor for motor, without that 300 shot, that thing woulda been nothing

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Did you even watch the vidoe? The camaro was pulling on him, but not by alot, and he had a 300 SHOT, if he didnt spray, the evo would of had him indefinately, even if the evo didnt spray and it was motor for motor, without that 300 shot, that thing woulda been nothing


And, as the old saying goes, "run what you brung."

I guess you forget all about the stroker motor in the EVO (which adds displacement btw, which again, "no replacement for displacement), the 35psi of boost (which is insane), plus a 55 shot running straight to the intercooler which is adding over double the jet size.

What if....what if you learned something?

Yes a stroker kit that add .3 of a liter, whoopty do, there was a 502 CI Classic Camaro like the one in the vid at the track this friday and it was running 13's, give me a break

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Yes a stroker kit that add .3 of a liter, whoopty do, there was a 502 CI Classic Camaro like the one in the vid at the track this friday and it was running 13's, give me a break


Would you like for me to show you just how much displacement that 35psi adds? Much less with a 55 shot?

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A 300 Shot, WTF

Evo woulda had him if he didnt spray


Ummmm. So the Evo can run a shot and 35 PSI (christ, good luck on that running very long) but the chebby can't run anything but n/a??

The car is obviously setup to run nitrous. Why wouldn't he spray??

BTW, with the slicks the camaro was running he would have ran away from em from a stop. Don't think for a minute that the AWD woulda had a chance against that camaro. Easily would have picked the front tires off the ground a few feet.

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Yes a stroker kit that add .3 of a liter, whoopty do, there was a 502 CI Classic Camaro like the one in the vid at the track this friday and it was running 13's, give me a break


Thats it. You know, I was going to let go with the whole "he would have lost if he didnt spray" thing, but now you officially dont know anything. And, I mean that. I have a 2.4 in my talon...and that extra .4L makes a BIG difference. But you wouldnt know anything about that would you...oh wait. I actually built my motor with my hands. I obviosly know absolutely nothing. This is like trying to explain it to Paul Walker.

And as far as Nitrous goes, you would call it NOS. That Camaro most likely set up his motor for the spray. Plus, trying to beat a fast turbo car from a roll, kind of hard to do. I'll bet you anything, that if that camaro didnt spray and raced that EVO from a stop. It would still take the EVO a long time to catch up...I would know...I have a 2.4, and 60-1 on my Talon....hmmm

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This is like trying to explain it to Paul Walker.


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All I have to say is I love the older, late 60's 'maros and that one was WICKED, no doubt about it!!!

Lets see, a trailered in, stripped down, crazy cam V-8 race car w/ a 300 shot beats a daily driven 4 banger by a few cars.

Never though I'd see the day where that would be news, Was john force not available?:D

I keed I keed, Obviously both cars were moving. Fast is fast. With the tires that baby was sporting going from a stop wouldn't have changed that outcome at all. Well, unless they were racing on a dirt road or something :) Obviously the car was setup for nitrous so saying he would of lost if he didn't spray is a stupid point. The evo was setup up for high boost, what if he wasn't running 30+ psi? Its just as stupid as somebody w/ an aluminum block V-8 saying "well put 35 psi on my engine and it will be faster". Good luck w/ that, apples to oranges.

The stroked 2.3 isn't really to add power persay as much as it is to get a stocklike spool on that motor w/ a huge turbo. The fastest guys still run 2.0L. The ability to rev higher and get the most out of your large turbo up top is the reason why stock displacement is where the fastest guys are at. A 2.3/2.4 is great for a street car though.

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Did you even watch the vidoe? The camaro was pulling on him, but not by alot, and he had a 300 SHOT, if he didnt spray, the evo would of had him indefinately, even if the evo didnt spray and it was motor for motor, without that 300 shot, that thing woulda been nothing


Haha, so 30+psi from a turbo is considered all motor?
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The stroked 2.3 isn't really to add power persay as much as it is to get a stocklike spool on that motor w/ a huge turbo. The fastest guys still run 2.0L. The ability to rev higher and get the most out of your large turbo up top is the reason why stock displacement is where the fastest guys are at. A 2.3/2.4 is great for a street car though.


I agree with everything except for this. It does add power, but more torque is noticed than power. When I did my 2.4, my whp stayed pretty much the same, and I gained almost 100ft/lbs. of torque with the stock turbo. When I put on the 60-1, I get to full boost around 3700rpms....with a stock head, cams, valves, etc. Dont get me wrong, this whole debate with this guy is stupid. I just thought it was funny when he said that .3L difference in displacement doesnt do anything.

Yeah, the fastest DSM guys have 2.0's, and they have to run a big shot to spool up fast enough, and they want really high rpms. Ex.
Sean Glazer - 8.68 et. John Shepherd - 8.71 et. Brent Rau - 7's

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A 300 Shot, WTF

Evo woulda had him if he didnt spray


wow, why is this kid still on this site...someone, please give him the boot. he's obviously here to do nothing but state insignificant comments and flame on every topic containing an import.

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ORIGINAL: Joe99es

A 300 Shot, WTF

Evo woulda had him if he didnt spray


wow, why is this kid still on this site...someone, please give him the boot. he's obviously here to do nothing but state insignificant comments and flame on every topic containing an import.


Nothin like sallys using fake HP right outta the bottle cause they dont wanna take the time and build up there engine the right way

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A 300 Shot, WTF

Evo woulda had him if he didnt spray


wow, why is this kid still on this site...someone, please give him the boot. he's obviously here to do nothing but state insignificant comments and flame on every topic containing an import.


Nothin like sallys using fake HP right outta the bottle cause they dont wanna take the time and build up there engine the right way


So a turbo is fair, but nitrous is not???

do you have any idea what that camaro would be running like with a turbo? Trust me his competition doesn't want that.

All I gotta say is good race I love that Evo it mad me wanna go get one and add it tp my collection, but I am gonna try for a Cobra instead but anyway that Camaro was outrageous the other Camaro it race jump on em but then the boost kicked in on that Evo but not this time, the Camaro won fair

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A 300 Shot, WTF

Evo woulda had him if he didnt spray


wow, why is this kid still on this site...someone, please give him the boot. he's obviously here to do nothing but state insignificant comments and flame on every topic containing an import.


Nothin like sallys using fake HP right outta the bottle cause they dont wanna take the time and build up there engine the right way


So a turbo is fair, but nitrous is not???

do you have any idea what that camaro would be running like with a turbo? Trust me his competition doesn't want that.


No ****en kidden! Finally someone points out the odvious, ummm.... Just how much Money did the EVO guy spend to get his car that fast compared to a car that has absoulutly zero smog requirments, and hell if you wanna add a turbo, why not add two, or three? Cubes will always win in the long haul, so if that maro wanted to build his car with the soul intention of beating the hell out of that evo, ding ding ding! Sorry, old scool displacement always wins.

Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock


Dude, you seriously are the biggest ricer I have ever seen on this forum. You are everything that people hate about ricers. You make points that have no sense to them, blab off about stuff you have no idea about, and generally make ignorant comments.

WTF are you talking about, a 93 GT?? Do what? We are comparing apples to sledgehammers now? (and btw, a 93 gt is pretty far away from "old school displacement" rofl)

Let me break something down for you. Power = Fuel. The more fuel you can compress into the engine while keeping the A/F ratio nominal, the more power you make. It really is that simple. The only think N20, turbos, and blowers are allowing you to do is smash more air in there, so you can spray in more fuel while keeping the ratio the same.

Oh there are other factors than size, such as how well the intake and heads flow, and what the compression ratio is, but it still is all about compressing a large amount of fuel alot while keeping the A/F on the safe side.

Now, which engine is it easyer to burn more fuel in, the larger one, or the smaller one? Which can flow more air both N/A and Boosted?
Which engine is better for making more power?

God, your like arguing with a liberal. No matter what the obvious proof is, no matter how well it is backed up, you still valantly hold on to your "facts" (everyone else calls it your opinion) blindly because whatever you think obivously is correct.

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock


... Are you numb?
Look at all the crap from the 80's all that damn smog crap just starting and trying to work their ways around it.
All the horrid flowing parts on that poor n/a engine.
Not to mention the low compression ratio compared to things of today
With a proper setup you can basically double the power of that stock 302 n/a
Try doing the same thing with that 4banger.

Oh, you can't. Only option is boost.

both cars were badass..but I like the EVO in that vid better...it was a street car as well as a racer where as the camaro had more dragstrip manners...

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Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock

God, your like arguing with a liberal. No matter what the obvious proof is, no matter how well it is backed up, you still valantly hold on to your "facts" (everyone else calls it your opinion) blindly because whatever you think obivously is correct.


HAHAHA!!!!!:D GT, thank you so much. Joe...the funny thing about this whole thread is that you are totally argueing with false premises with all of the V-8 buffs. Here I am, a respectable DSM owner...telling you that you obviously dont have a clue about whats going on. Your comments, rebutles, premises all have absolutely NO validity...this is....perhaps....because you don't have any experience at all with automobile performance. People like myself, 2000GT, 98LS1, obviously have extesive performance mods to our automobiles. The only reason we are telling you to shut the hell up, is because you sound like every other ignorent ricer when you make a comment. Here I am, an import owner...telling you to shut up now and keep at least a little dignity for yourself. Not trying to be a dick, just pointing a ricer to the REAL road of performance...instead of this F&F fantasy world you are living in. Maybe if you would take the time to ask questions instead of pretending you are Paul Walker, you would learn something....maybe.:eek:
My $.02

You're my new DSM buddy....and I heart you.

ORIGINAL: 98LS1

You're my new DSM buddy....and I heart you.


Damn man, you remember my buddy that got spanked by that talon that one night, in front of that one resturant, in that town, in that one Pontiac.......sheeew, that musta sucked for him

why do peolple keep saying the evo is a daily driver? at 35 psi ? good luck drivin that thing back in forth to work everyday.

seriously joe99es

if your gonna come on to the forums to talk smack about american muscle cars then buzz off cuz no one wants your garbage here.

also about you saying an older 93gt putting out 200 horses thats true, but look at a 69 camaro or a older chevelle hell look at an old charger or cuda. look at them, 900-1000hp, alcohol burning machines. now look at your 4 banger and say they can take it. no. they cant. that 67 camaro had alot more weight then that fiberglass evo. dont get me wrong i dont have problems with imports. i just dont like people who come and talk smack about muscle cars. if you wanna go thrive your imports go to honda-tech or what ever. but in the end displacement cant be replaced. v8 > all kthx.

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why do peolple keep saying the evo is a daily driver? at 35 psi ? good luck drivin that thing back in forth to work everyday.


Turbo PSI can be turned down, the EVO is a daily driver... its not some trailer queen like that camaro was, comin in on a trailor with a stripped interior and mammoth slicks

Alright Joe99, if this will make you happy, ive shown this vid to two of my friends up here that would kill to run up against him and are daily drivers, on a 88 Saleen running 9.2 on the quarter and on the street and my good buddy and his 69 "Daily Driven" Camaro that ran 9.2 just last week. If the weathers fair he drives it to work every time, and by the way, its a cheery show car. And odviously you dont have a clue as to why displacement counts but then again you probably think that theres a lawn mower engine powering the quickest cars on the planet. Common man, you cant see why top fuelers have yet to be beat? I love imports, i love making them fast, but when it comes down to it, bigger cubes always win. Geeze... Its not like were talking down about that EVO, were just stating the facts, besides, if all you rely on is stickers to add hp on youre car, youre a ricer;) WTF? NM, Late

ya but then how fast will it be? Your gonna want to turn it down quite a bit if it's a daily driver.

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why do peolple keep saying the evo is a daily driver? at 35 psi ? good luck drivin that thing back in forth to work everyday.


Turbo PSI can be turned down, the EVO is a daily driver... its not some trailer queen like that camaro was, comin in on a trailor with a stripped interior and mammoth slicks


By the way, incase you forgot...or have a lack of knowlege ( I think so), the Evo is AWD. Kinda makes for a better launch...just maybe. The camaro pushing 1000whp is gonna need traction....even the fastest awd cars need slicks...again...use what ya brung...and maybe the reason he trailered it in...was because driving a 1000whp car in the city=trouble, cops, perhaps death?....maybe? I have enough trouble driving my 380whp daily driven talon around. Peace[sm=icon_beat.gif]

I really doubt he had over 800 HP, he pulled on the evo at first, but not very hard.. and then by the end of the race the evo had not started pulling on him, but slowed the rate at which the maro was.. So if it takes a 1000 RWHP 300 Shot camaro to beat a 600 HP Evo, thats sad

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock



yea but how much torque does the new rsx have?

200 or so, its right up there with the HP, i know the ford had more torque, but it also weighed a ton more too

very nice

a ton more, please lets be realistic, a ton is 2000 lbs

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seriously joe99es

if your gonna come on to the forums to talk smack about american muscle cars then buzz off cuz no one wants your garbage here.

also about you saying an older 93gt putting out 200 horses thats true, but look at a 69 camaro or a older chevelle hell look at an old charger or cuda. look at them, 900-1000hp, alcohol burning machines. now look at your 4 banger and say they can take it. no. they cant. that 67 camaro had alot more weight then that fiberglass evo. dont get me wrong i dont have problems with imports. i just dont like people who come and talk smack about muscle cars. if you wanna go thrive your imports go to honda-tech or what ever. but in the end displacement cant be replaced. v8 > all kthx.


Joe do you relize that someone with two posts is already telling you to leave, imagine how all the people who have been here feel!

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ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock



yea but how much torque does the new rsx have?


143 ft lbs. but it's only 2700 lbs. What's a 93 GT weigh?

Oh ok. An RSX-S will spank a stock 93 GT. Sorry.

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I really doubt he had over 800 HP, he pulled on the evo at first, but not very hard.. and then by the end of the race the evo had not started pulling on him, but slowed the rate at which the maro was.. So if it takes a 1000 RWHP 300 Shot camaro to beat a 600 HP Evo, thats sad


Not really hard? I swear. Lets think about how fast they were going when they got on it. Now lets think about how long they were racing for, and then lets throw in the fact that from a roll, the EVO got spanked by 4 cars (about) before they shut em down. You have no f***ing clue about what you are arguing. You are the reason import owners get a bad name. First of all, how much does a old school camaro weigh? Excactly, now, how much does an EVO weigh? About a 1000lbs less than an evo. On the dyno, Ill bet that camaro throws down about 900whp. Maybe a 1000 is a little too high, but think about it. This is common sense, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to understand that it takes more power to make a more heavy car accelerate FASTER than a lighter weight car.....duh. And oh...by the way...who are you to say "thats sad".....I swear....tasers should be legal to use on ingorent people.

And just for the kick in the nuts, the EVO made 600awhp at 30psi. In the last two races he ran between 35-36psi and a 55 shot of nitrous.

ORIGINAL: 98LS1

And just for the kick in the nuts, the EVO made 600awhp at 30psi. In the last two races he ran between 35-36psi and a 55 shot of nitrous.


yah, thats not a 600 whp car in that form, even at 33 psi he was pulling hard on 600+ whp cars. Anybody know what that camaro runs at the track??
A friend of the shop said the evo was getting some more mods done including a GT42R turbo. Don't know why, gotta have some balls to mess with a good thing like that.
Maybe some classes on brake boosting 101 would help so these cars don't jump on him everytime. Seems like the camaro pulled intially and then they stayed even until they hit brakes, it was such a short pull though.

the camaro was sick...to bad the snake couldnt hang with it.

heh the snake... Cobra ends up having a snake logo... man what a ripoff of the viper

Also that is no common Evo it has a stroker kit, it's a 2.3 ltr engine.
With 35 lbs of boost even my fridge with tires can go fast.
I'm not bashing Evo's....they deserve respect for all rally acomplishments but
talking about V8 performance my 1989 GT cost me $2,500 plus $2,000 in mods and my best run was 12.8@118.8 Q/M on radials.

Where I live there are a couple 600+ hp Evo's and they hardly get into the 10 secs.
There will be no replacement for an all american V8, can't wait to see a 1,000 hp 4 cyl import street legal.

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There will be no replacement for an all american V8, can't wait to see a 1,000 hp 4 cyl import street legal.





that prolly wont ever happen, because nobody ever wants to take the chance. I do know there are 500-600 whp b18c's out there. that is absolutely PLENTY to get the car going.

What are you, like six? Mustang cobras have always had a snake logo..... i dont remember seeing a viper in the 60's. Oh sorry, i forgot, you get all youre fictisious info from youre hot wheels, i guess in youre mind shopping carts are the ****. Whatever, hey, you missed the little yellow school bus, kindergardens on the other forum.
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heh the snake... Cobra ends up having a snake logo... man what a ripoff of the viper

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What are you, like six? Mustang cobras have always had a snake logo..... i dont remember seeing a viper in the 60's. Oh sorry, i forgot, you get all youre fictisious info from youre hot wheels, i guess in youre mind shopping carts are the ****. Whatever, hey, you missed the little yellow school bus, kindergardens on the other forum.
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heh the snake... Cobra ends up having a snake logo... man what a ripoff of the viper



Hahahahaha!
He must've been joking or something.
Cobras stole that SNAKE emblem from the viper!
LOL
http://www.cobraaccessories.com/Resources/4p-sku-EMsticker-tn.jpg

nahh dude, he probably wasnt, read all the posts from page one and you should find him to be a total and complete moron with the intelligence of a kindergardner.

Thats what I mean ..there is NO way that guy is serious.
He must be clown having fun or maybe he ate a bozo doll this morning.
All motor vs all motor the Evo is better .....Hahahahahaha, that car is a 17 sec car without the turbo, for anyone who knows about turbos knows that 35 lbs is insane.

How come there is always an Evo wannabe-owner with a lousy honda trying to bash V8's?

I couldn't sit here and read all this crap, so I just wanted to chime in on the first few post. So..... all I can and want to say is Joe is a COMPLETE fool. How do you compare all this crap? Seriously turbo vs NOS are apparently not the same as far as power adders huh? And you're comparing old school with new age cars. With all due respect you need to learn more about power and cars. I give MAD PROPS to the old cars like the camaros, stangs, charger etc., look at what they run(13-14sec?) and new car times now(avg.13s). And that was over 30 years ago compared to now. In my opinion Joe must go! [X(]

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I couldn't sit here and read all this crap, so I just wanted to chime in on the first few post. So..... all I can and want to say is Joe is a COMPLETE fool. How do you compare all this crap? Seriously turbo vs NOS are apparently not the same as far as power adders huh? And you're comparing old school with new age cars. With all due respect you need to learn more about power and cars. I give MAD PROPS to the old cars like the camaros, stangs, charger etc., look at what they run(13-14sec?) and new car times now(avg.13s). And that was over 30 years ago compared to now. In my opinion Joe must go! [X(]


Man.......not all new cars are running 13's and 14's.
If you meant new breed of performance cars maybe.
Cars like wrx's, Srt-4's, Evo's, Wrx STI, are impresive cars and noone complains about that but that's because of new technology. Any car that can pull 0-60 under 5.5 secs deserve respect.
Our cars have a big potential to become monsters easily.
Economy cars like civics arent nowhere near the 14 sec Q/M.

Ban Joe

it's funny how everyone is defending camaro so passionatley. i guess idiot a$%holes like joe make you do wierd things.
p.s. my 89 fifty is nearly stock and i've raped several rsx's several different times.

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it's funny how everyone is defending camaro so passionatley. i guess idiot a$%holes like joe make you do wierd things.
p.s. my 89 fifty is nearly stock and i've raped several rsx's several different times.


Nah.........what's funny is reading dumb posts of kids.
Noone is defending camaro's here, we are just amazed of how big the imagination or ignorance of some people can be.

heh the snake... Cobra ends up having a snake logo... man what a ripoff of the viper

What an idiot,:eek:

for some reason i doubt if he had the money in that 427ci he wouldnt need that 300shot.

This is still going on?

LOL, i know, but i guess one just can never get enough of beating on a ignorant moron.

The only reason you guys are so biased against 4 bangers is because of the applications that they are put in... and there only slow because there FWD... you take a miata / S2000 for example, then build those up with a supercharged / turbo , whatever, and be RWD.. your gonna be kickin ass in those featherweight cars

They sell a supercharger kit for the miata, if you get that.. and afew other little things your good for 350 whp in a featherweight car thats RWD, come on now

Joe, god are you just dim or retarded? NO ONE HERE IS BIASED! God, we all like the evo in that vid, and yes you can build 4 bangers into hp monsters, but how much money would you have to pay to get them to that level, and besides, were primarely drag race fans here and what wins drag races, HP? hell no, torque, and 4bangers equal **** for torque, thats just physics, deal with it! Yes, ther are 4 bangers runnig damn near 6's, but the fastes vehicles in ACCELERATION are V-8's, why do you keep arguing?

Cause he owns a 4 cyl and is trying to earn respect for his 4 Banger. Most 4 cyl ARE SLOW! very few people actually take the time and money to build a plain 4cyl usally its a EVO or WRX . Cause before those cars came around the 4cyl cars was mostly riced out Hondas. With enough money you can make a YUGO fast who cares right? Well Joe care's ! So Joe sitting at Home on his PC and his 145 HP Honda wants to get in his 2 cents in for his group on a Mustang forum cause he wants the Mustang peoples respect. So this is what i say go build your engine like the one i have seen at Beech bend raceway. It was a Honda running 9s in the 1/4 then Joe99 you can film it and start earning respect from the rest of the world. But lets face it your not ever gonna own a 9 sec anything so lets all be nice and never bash a 4 cyl or Mustang ever again :)

Listen, if you cant atleast understand my argument, then dotn call me the igorant one... Torque Wins races right? And the heavier the car, the more torque it takes to move it.. and V8's are like fuqin barges, they NEED all that torque to get moving.. if you build up a miata that weighs 2200 - 2300 pounds you dont need as much TQ to get moving, hence you are generally faster

and Torque aloen dosent win races, if that was the case then diesels would rule the race world

http://www.mustangforums.com/upfiles/2937/asppg_Mj246356183.gif

I have that saved on my computer from along time ago, atleast be original

Ive always loved diesels, and theres 10 second diesel full size pickup trucks out there with 800 hp and 1500 TQ, but 4 bangers are better

Going back a few post, since it doesn't take as much tq to move a lightweight Miata, in your case, then what if you have the v8 in the Miata? What's your argument for that? Would it now be slower?

Youd be faster, but it'd fuq up your weight ratio / distribution and handling, and would not be worth it whatsoever

Not to mention cost a ****load of money, when you could just get a CRX ( 1800 - 1900 ibs ) and convert it to RWD and be even lighter

Or how about this idea... A stock CRX weighs 1800 - 1900 pounds right? and thats with everything from teh factory... If you strip it... takes out the back seats... take out the PS / AC , and completely strip the interior, then put a LS Vtec engine in it and turbo it... it'd weigh like nothing, and be extremely fast

God you're such a tool. I've been on this hur internet for a long time and I've never met as large of a douchbag as yourself. Congratulations.

http://www.mustangforums.com/upfiles/2937/asppg_Fd910671980.jpg

im not a ricer, jesus.. i like V8's as much as anyone else on these boards, i just like other things better

There are ricers that drive v8's. You are a ricer.

EDIT: learn to use the EDIT button! Don't make 3 consecutive post blurting about with some ignorant **** you discovered watching The Slow and the Curious.

ORIGINAL: 98LS1

There are ricers that drive v8's. You are a ricer.

EDIT: learn to use the EDIT button! Don't make 3 consecutive post blurting about with some ignorant **** you discovered watching The Slow and the Curious.


98 we just have to stop responding to this TOOL, i think he gets off on it!Its like talkin to a 5 year old

ORIGINAL: 99saleen351r

98 we just have to stop responding to this TOOL, i think he gets off on it!Its like talkin to a 5 year old


Maybe if we stop, he'll just go away....let's pray that he does anyway.

www.clubsi.com would be a nice home for you Joe. Go there and talk about some mad tizite CAI's and hubcap spinnahs!

Mabey Paul Walker is his dad:D

A ricer is someone that does stupid **** to there cars, i dont do anything to my cars apperance wise, they look OEM completely, im not a ricer

On that clubsi website you showed me, theres some civics running low 13's, i wouldent be complaining

a ricer is also someone who make's stupid ass remarks over the internet,so i guess you can now redem youself a ricer again...............;)

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF??????? man? We are primarely drag racers here, look at 98LS1, do you think his car is set up for handeling? Do you think he cares? And dude, there are such things as all aluminum blocks = light, and last i checed we can gut the hell out of our cars to. You must be a ricer cause last i checed DRAG RACING didnt involve jumping over bridges and going around corners, so who gives a **** about handeling? And in drag races, Torque + Gearing = win, plain and simple, it aint like the track is 3 miles long. Youre a ****ing IGNORANT moron who needs to seriously go bother another forum cause around here were V-8 fans, i dont know, did the "MUSTANG FORUMS" confuse you? Go get other ****head ricers to agree with you on a rice site. God im actually pissed now.

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Youd be faster, but it'd fuq up your weight ratio / distribution and handling, and would not be worth it whatsoever

torque + gearing wins? your tarded.. again if that was the case, diesels would rule everything

**** it, show me what you got, show me youre car, you got a car that will run 9's? 10's, 11's? Didnt think so, but just in case, im putting a direct challeng to you, bring youre pos whatever out and well go heads up, thats right i challenging you, what you got? Think youre the ****, can you back up those words? ****ing do it then.

ORIGINAL: streetterror

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF??????? man? We are primarely drag racers here, look at 98LS1, do you think his car is set up for handeling? Do you think he cares?


Haha, damn skippy. I take those exit ramps like a champ!

It's useless man, let's just ignore him and hope he dies...or goes away.

Sorry bro, youre right, youre cars ****ing sick by the way, aside from being a mustang fan, i own 2 T/A's and from the wheels you got on it in the pic i thought you were more of a straight line fan, cant imagine drag lights taking a corner to well, but who knows. Yeah, lets ignore him from now on, hes just an instogater looking for a response, course we could all **********ly block him?;)

Thanks man.

I was kidding...it's got 4" wheels up front. It doesn't turn too quickly...or stop too quickly for that matter.

ORIGINAL: streetterror

**** it, show me what you got, show me youre car, you got a car that will run 9's? 10's, 11's? Didnt think so, but just in case, im putting a direct challeng to you, bring youre pos whatever out and well go heads up, thats right i challenging you, what you got? Think youre the ****, can you back up those words? ****ing do it then.


Sure buddy, lets go to a real track, not a 1/4, but a real twisties track and we'll see what you got, maybe ill get out the RX8 on ya buddy

i'll run the twisties with ya....i got plenty of vacation days left hell i'll do it with my skinnies on;)
ORIGINAL: Joe99es

ORIGINAL: streetterror

**** it, show me what you got, show me youre car, you got a car that will run 9's? 10's, 11's? Didnt think so, but just in case, im putting a direct challeng to you, bring youre pos whatever out and well go heads up, thats right i challenging you, what you got? Think youre the ****, can you back up those words? ****ing do it then.


Sure buddy, lets go to a real track, not a 1/4, but a real twisties track and we'll see what you got, maybe ill get out the RX8 on ya buddy

chicken sh!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yo dawg lets run'em in the twisteshow about you take your nawwzzzz talking ass to honda tech where some of them retards will actually agree with some of that horse **** that is coming out of you mouth,cause nobody gives a **** here!!:eek:

this one is for you joe99es http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/stangpower96/701810339423306a5062f2.jpg[sm=laughat.gif]

lol you guys are retarded, obviously im gonna run them in the twisties because thats where we do best.. the Rx8 has perfect 50 / 50 weight distribution, great suspension, is light, and good powerband to boot... fak you straight line clowns

how about **** you, your the type of guy that make's me take nerve medication to keep from punching there teeth down there throat,"goose fra ba"goose fra ba "................................whoo i almost lost it there[:@]

who's retarded??...... my suspension is adjustable dip sh!t......like i said tell me where...
and when a rx8 has nothing on my car. my car will run the twisties just the same as the straight lines. $1000 bucks buddy ,and i'll burn ya nonetheless.so what's up?
ORIGINAL: Joe99es

lol you guys are retarded, obviously im gonna run them in the twisties because thats where we do best.. the Rx8 has perfect 50 / 50 weight distribution, great suspension, is light, and good powerband to boot... fak you straight line clowns

ORIGINAL: Stinger

Cause he owns a 4 cyl and is trying to earn respect for his 4 Banger. Most 4 cyl ARE SLOW! very few people actually take the time and money to build a plain 4cyl usally its a EVO or WRX . Cause before those cars came around the 4cyl cars was mostly riced out Hondas.


Ok stinger, now you're just talking out of your ass. Yes there are riced out hondas that you see daily with retarded owners, but you never know a plain jane 12 second Civic when you're next to it because these are the guys that don't go around bragging or revving at everything.

I know many MANY a 12-13 second Civic/CRX/Del Sol from Hondatech and Hondaswap with absolutely no exterior modifications whatsoever.

... besides the ever so obvious FMIC.

ORIGINAL: ellis_juan


ORIGINAL: 98LS1

You're my new DSM buddy....and I heart you.


Damn man, you remember my buddy that got spanked by that talon that one night, in front of that one resturant, in that town, in that one Pontiac.......sheeew, that musta sucked for him



DOOD! That was in teh Elty. The Elty was a pig.

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

ORIGINAL: streetterror

**** it, show me what you got, show me youre car, you got a car that will run 9's? 10's, 11's? Didnt think so, but just in case, im putting a direct challeng to you, bring youre pos whatever out and well go heads up, thats right i challenging you, what you got? Think youre the ****, can you back up those words? ****ing do it then.


Sure buddy, lets go to a real track, not a 1/4, but a real twisties track and we'll see what you got, maybe ill get out the RX8 on ya buddy



BAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA!!!!!!! You ****ing tool! Can I come too? I'll run ya around the twisties!!

I'm ready for a twistie with ya,That reminds me.......*Runs to twist one up*:D

ORIGINAL: grabbem88

who's retarded??...... my suspension is adjustable dip sh!t......like i said tell me where...
and when a rx8 has nothing on my car. my car will run the twisties just the same as the straight lines. $1000 bucks buddy ,and i'll burn ya nonetheless.so what's up?
ORIGINAL: Joe99es

lol you guys are retarded, obviously im gonna run them in the twisties because thats where we do best.. the Rx8 has perfect 50 / 50 weight distribution, great suspension, is light, and good powerband to boot... fak you straight line clowns




wow! youve got coilovers big pimp! who cares dude? your still a heavy barge of a car, with a horrible weigh distribution and an unadvanced suspension

so what you're not going to race him? ;)

I live in New Hampshire, find someone close to me and bring a video camera to prove ya punks wrong

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

I live in New Hampshire, find someone close to me and bring a video camera to prove ya punks wrong


You live in new hampshjire.....Oh boy, can we meet up ,i live in Mass......I'll bring the camera!To record the beating that is

sure, bring the escalade

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

sure, bring the escalade


That will probably out handle what you got too,Its like a nascar!

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

ORIGINAL: streetterror

**** it, show me what you got, show me youre car, you got a car that will run 9's? 10's, 11's? Didnt think so, but just in case, im putting a direct challeng to you, bring youre pos whatever out and well go heads up, thats right i challenging you, what you got? Think youre the ****, can you back up those words? ****ing do it then.


Sure buddy, lets go to a real track, not a 1/4, but a real twisties track and we'll see what you got, maybe ill get out the RX8 on ya buddy


Here's something funny. Joe, you are stupid. How bout this, I will run your car on the "twisties" (god you are gay) and beat your a$$, then, Ill run you in a straight line....and beat your a$$, then, I will get out of my car...request that everyone cheerfully beats you to a pulp for being such an a$$. Even the site moderator told you that you were a tool...does that tell you anything? Oh, wait...you're dumb...I forgot...the only way you would understand anything is for people like me to tell you with a 9 iron...perhaps...maybe

By the way, dont even think about telling me that my car wont corner as well as your daddys RX8, or loose in a straight line
1991 Eagle Talon TSi
KYB adjustable struts
Eibach Pro springs
17" Loco rims
Yokahama Advans (the tire that come stock on the evo)
more motor mods than you dare to mess with in my sig. below...plus, got these yesterday...sucka
1mm oversized valves, P&P head, Crower Springs, titanium retainers, bronze valve guides, FFWDConnection.com 272 camshafts.
...you're screwed....

sup talon, i wouldnt bother explaining youre cars mods to this IGNORANT moron, hes the one that said ford stole the Cobra logo from the viper, and his RX8 is probablymade in Malasya and stamped HOTWHEELS on the bottem, besides, RX8's aint all that fast, i smoked one in my stock T/A in a straight line all the way to 140, no prob. Just let the kid run his mouth, he'll run it to the wrong person someday and get to meet his ass personally.;)

Ford had the Cobra logo since the 60's. Show me a Viper newer than '92.

1) Rx8's run low 14's stock, there not built for straight line, they kill in the corners

2) im 6'3 235 pds, i can handle myself

3) dosent matter if you have gods suspension, some things are out of your immediate control, such as weight difference between front and rear, axle setup, and weight in general

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

1) Rx8's run low 14's stock, there not built for straight line, they kill in the corners

2) im 6'3 235 pds, i can handle myself

3) dosent matter if you have gods suspension, some things are out of your immediate control, such as weight difference between front and rear, axle setup, and weight in general


You said your 18,I doubt your 6'3 and 235 pounds.I'm 7'5 545 pounds...... only online though

Yes, i am 18, and i am 6'3 235 pds.. my dad is 6'4 and my mom is 6'0, makes for a tall mix

Hey moderator, if you have power can you ban this guy?

Wow that Camaro rocked the Evo!! Did you guys see that? *Smack!* And the Evo was running 30+ PSI w/ a 55 shot?? Thank god for my pig of a V8. All we need now is some ingnorant "know-it-all" ricer to come in here and says V8's suck and 4 bangers always win.

Yeah, only took a 427 and 300 shot to beat it too

who said i had coilovers??? i'm a heavy barge????3000lbs isn't too heavy lighter than your a$$.. unadvanced???your intelect along with your manhood is unadvanced.
like i said i got plenty of vacation days left,and i got the dough$$$$bling!bling! beeeaaaashh! 18yrs.6'3 235lbs???so what i'm 30yrs. 5'11 215lbs!! (ex-army)..by the way i got family in andover MA. (by the paper mills) so i'll just drop by...chump!
ORIGINAL: Joe99es


ORIGINAL: grabbem88

who's retarded??...... my suspension is adjustable dip sh!t......like i said tell me where...
and when a rx8 has nothing on my car. my car will run the twisties just the same as the straight lines. $1000 bucks buddy ,and i'll burn ya nonetheless.so what's up?
ORIGINAL: Joe99es

lol you guys are retarded, obviously im gonna run them in the twisties because thats where we do best.. the Rx8 has perfect 50 / 50 weight distribution, great suspension, is light, and good powerband to boot... fak you straight line clowns




wow! youve got coilovers big pimp! who cares dude? your still a heavy barge of a car, with a horrible weigh distribution and an unadvanced suspension

2) im 6'3 235 pds, i can handle myself

Aren't we all...:eek:

427???nooooooo 412 big,big difference..
ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Yeah, only took a 427 and 300 shot to beat it too

And the EVO only took 30 psi of Turbo to get to 600 hp.

is this guy still running his mouth about dumb sh!t,and yeah it was a 412 sbc,the 427 you mentioned *very suprised that you knew about a 427* is a bbc so there is a night and day diff.................................oh yeah forgot to tell you,you're still the biggest tool i've seen on here in a while and on that note have you ever heard the saying "the bigger they are the harder they fall";)

But there are kits to do a LSx based 427 stroker. They are teh awsome.

*edit* For got to add that the JOEes guy is a major tool regardless.

well i was kinda owned on that one,but i was looking at it as a old school prospective:D

TOOL! heheheheh! toolly tool!

ORIGINAL: 94Cbra

Wow that Camaro rocked the Evo!! Did you guys see that? *Smack!* And the Evo was running 30+ PSI w/ a 55 shot?? Thank god for my pig of a V8. All we need now is some ingnorant "know-it-all" ricer to come in here and says V8's suck and 4 bangers always win.


I think it'd balance it out actually. We do have a lot of ignorant "know-it-all" V8 owners here that say 4 banger's suck and V8s always win.

But hey, you guys will argue with anything to prove that the V8 still owns everything everywhere all the time, even after viewing this video FROM 7 PAGES AGO...

holy **** what the hell is going on here.....#1 rx-8 pos car, i mean King of the Hill POS....and joe whatever the fu*k i do auto cross, my car's suspension is 100% stock, all i have is all the weight out of my car that can get out of it and a few bolt ons....and let me tell you...a supercharged rx-8 out on the track one day thought he was the **** until his car got our handled by...yes...you guessed it....a Mustang Gt.

-Mike :D

you forgot to say joe you are a tool!:D

I'm officialy member #1...w00t.

HE HE HE!

So mr GTO 400 hp... how is it that the GT0 has 400 hp, but only manages to run 13's at best? Nice

Are you still here?


Check out some of the GTO boards beatoff. They're 12.9. 12.8 depending on how it's driven? Whats your Civic run? 19.2? Eat my ass.

Actually i run 13.1 and have 250 HP and FWD, good job 400 horse

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Actually i run 13.1 and have 250 HP and FWD, good job 400 horse


Pics? Vids? Kill yourself?

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Actually i run 13.1 and have 250 HP and FWD, good job 400 horse




BAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!onehundredseventeen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

13.15 @ 105.6 Mph @ 15 psi of boost

And I went 4.41 @ 322 mph with nitromethane.

What does that prove?

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

13.15 @ 105.6 Mph @ 15 psi of boost

Like that is somthing to brag about. Front (or wrong wheel) drive just plain sucks, for example I saw a skittle (SRT-4) run a 12.0 @ 119 mph, that a low 11 mph. If my car ran like that I would burn it and then piss on the ashes.

If slicks dont work , then get a LSD for the front also, be all set

let's see a time slip then or is this someone's car that you've seen? toolboy!
ORIGINAL: Joe99es

13.15 @ 105.6 Mph @ 15 psi of boost

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

If slicks dont work , then get a LSD for the front also, be all set



I thought you were the ALL knowing about the ****ty 4 bangers? The skittles have an LSD. And they guy had slicks.

FWD sucks, 4 bangers suck. You suck. It all works out in the end.

shoot dawg if i had 15psi of boost i'll be running high 9's low 10's.......you know how you do it.....one mississippi,two mississippi;three..:D ...TOOL THUMPER!
ORIGINAL: Joe99es

13.15 @ 105.6 Mph @ 15 psi of boost

ORIGINAL: Sidewayz6.0

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

If slicks dont work , then get a LSD for the front also, be all set



I thought you were the ALL knowing about the ****ty 4 bangers? The skittles have an LSD. And they guy had slicks.

FWD sucks, 4 bangers suck. You suck. It all works out in the end.



Check yourself buddy, SRT4's dont have LSD, thats why they have huge traction problems, ide take a RSX-S over a SRT4 anyday

WHAT? Do your own homework. They have LSD's DOOD!

They do not have LSD, RSX-S have LSD, SRT4 is just a POS

I agree, they are a POS. But trust me. They have a limited slip.

the srt 4's did not come out with lsd.....sorry....so they are even bigger p.o.s than we are giving them..
ORIGINAL: Sidewayz6.0

I agree, they are a POS. But trust me. They have a limited slip.

Pwned

The 05 SRT4s have LSDs, the 02-04s don't have LSDs.

So you're both half right.

oh and I believe i just pwnt grabem too.

2 Bad there still ugly as sin... i love the RSX-S's though and would take one over a SRT4 anyday, even though its not turbo'd and has less HP

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

2 Bad there still ugly as sin... i love the RSX-S's though and would take one over a SRT4 anyday, even though its not turbo'd and has less HP


I can't believe you guys hate him, he hates the same cars you do.


but let me finish your sentence Joe... "and is about a full second slower."


But hey, I'd take one of each.

well i wasn't sure about 05/06's whatever? and it's with TWO B'S not one 2000si....hold up techinacaly i said came out so that means the first production SRT4s...
ORIGINAL: 2000Si

The 05 SRT4s have LSDs, the 02-04s don't have LSDs.

So you're both half right.

oh and I believe i just pwnt grabem too.

ORIGINAL: grabbem88

well i wasn't sure about 05/06's whatever? and it's with TWO B'S not one 2000si....hold up techinacaly i said came out so that means the first production SRT4s...
ORIGINAL: 2000Si

The 05 SRT4s have LSDs, the 02-04s don't have LSDs.

So you're both half right.

oh and I believe i just pwnt grabem too.




typing > me People spell my name missing a 0 all the time. Anyway, you said "came out" meaning they've never come out ever In my eyes. So yes, you were wrong on that part. BUT you were right the first production SRT4s didn't have LSDs. Either way, they do and they can be swapped into earlier models with an 05 halfshaft.

considering i make parts for that car i should of known i guess???.....i thought it was aftermarket,since that's all i hear people complain about on the earlier cars.....so my bad.....i mostly deal with toyota/honda...and the new ford duratech...sorry for missing your two OO's:eek:

you didn't miss em, just others do.

Anyway, yeah. *kicks dirt*

So... who likes Mustangs here? ;)

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

The 05 SRT4s have LSDs, the 02-04s don't have LSDs.

So you're both half right.

oh and I believe i just pwnt grabem too.



Actually, I was fully aware that only the 04+ had the LSD. But he said that they DIDN'T have it. I saw no reason to share anymore info with him than necessary.


Joe, Give it up. You're a moron.

Yeah cause you come into a argument once its already done and warp and twist **** to how you want it so it dosent look like your in the wrong or not

You know...I knew you were going to say that. I wasn't wrong. I was 100% correct.

ORIGINAL: Sidewayz6.0

You know...I knew you were going to say that. I wasn't wrong. I was 100% correct.


That means I was 150% correct.

w0000!!!1!1!11!!!!0n3

First off, I HAVE to comment on the snake emblem post!! HAHAHAHA That has got to be the funniest thing I have EVER heard, and I noticed how he has skipped out on all the comments made about that post of his, but MAN it was hilarious.. Thanks for the Laugh!!!

As for the 93 GT only having 200 HP. Sure... but had 300 FT lbs, twice what the 4 cyl's have, and dont try to say they're heavy, because the new RSX's aren't light I can tell you that. Oh, and my buddy has an RSX type R imported from Japan, and with a set of Radials and 4.10's I handed him his ass on the street.. I was gone before he ever hit "v-tech" hahaha..

I used to respect a couple of the import enthu. on this forum, such as 2000Si and 2001 GT, but they too have proven to be fools for sticking up for this 18 Year old know nothing kid... Exactly the reason why we (v-8 owners) cant stand SOME and MOST importers...

****in A, Finally someone brings it back to Joe beating. Im right there with you man, 2000si, i always respected you, but comon man, why try to be the peace maker and all when HE came in here bashing on our kind of cars in the first place, yeah thats good and all to defend a tuner that has not been an ass hole and has valid points, but Joe is noething more than a trash talking punk, even Talon said so, and he's into all that tuner stuff, so please dont defend the morons. Comon man, this guy is just like 88mustanglx, you remember that idiot that couldnt stand how fast that RSX was and was all calling it gay and slow, thats exactly what Joe99 has been doing, just less blunt, but same exact thing, so he deserves every bit of our anger. Just my 2 cents, and endless headache on Joes part.


ORIGINAL: 91hatchgt

First off, I HAVE to comment on the snake emblem post!! HAHAHAHA That has got to be the funniest thing I have EVER heard, and I noticed how he has skipped out on all the comments made about that post of his, but MAN it was hilarious.. Thanks for the Laugh!!!

As for the 93 GT only having 200 HP. Sure... but had 300 FT lbs, twice what the 4 cyl's have, and dont try to say they're heavy, because the new RSX's aren't light I can tell you that. Oh, and my buddy has an RSX type R imported from Japan, and with a set of Radials and 4.10's I handed him his ass on the street.. I was gone before he ever hit "v-tech" hahaha..

I used to respect a couple of the import enthu. on this forum, such as 2000Si and 2001 GT, but they too have proven to be fools for sticking up for this 18 Year old know nothing kid... Exactly the reason why we (v-8 owners) cant stand SOME and MOST importers...

ORIGINAL: 91hatchgt

First off, I HAVE to comment on the snake emblem post!! HAHAHAHA That has got to be the funniest thing I have EVER heard, and I noticed how he has skipped out on all the comments made about that post of his, but MAN it was hilarious.. Thanks for the Laugh!!!

As for the 93 GT only having 200 HP. Sure... but had 300 FT lbs, twice what the 4 cyl's have, and dont try to say they're heavy, because the new RSX's aren't light I can tell you that. Oh, and my buddy has an RSX type R imported from Japan, and with a set of Radials and 4.10's I handed him his ass on the street.. I was gone before he ever hit "v-tech" hahaha..

I used to respect a couple of the import enthu. on this forum, such as 2000Si and 2001 GT, but they too have proven to be fools for sticking up for this 18 Year old know nothing kid... Exactly the reason why we (v-8 owners) cant stand SOME and MOST importers...


wha??? Who was I sticking up for? I've never stuck up for anybody in this thread. I've simply made my points, if they've backed someone up at all, so be it.

RSX Type R, huh? Too bad there is no such thing.

In Japan it's called the Integra Type R, Chassis is DC5. Comes with a 2.0L K20a with 220 hp. It's not built to be superfast or take on V8s. So don't consider that such an awesome kill.

and it's spelled VTEC.

Seems to me you don't have any idea of what you're talking about. That makes you the fool.

Uhhhhh. He has been bashing on our "BARGES" as he puts it and the Camaro. The SRT-4 argument came out of an aside. Thats why we were bashing on him.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

I can't believe you guys hate him, he hates the same cars you do.

ORIGINAL: 91hatchgt

First off, I HAVE to comment on the snake emblem post!! HAHAHAHA That has got to be the funniest thing I have EVER heard, and I noticed how he has skipped out on all the comments made about that post of his, but MAN it was hilarious.. Thanks for the Laugh!!!

As for the 93 GT only having 200 HP. Sure... but had 300 FT lbs, twice what the 4 cyl's have, and dont try to say they're heavy, because the new RSX's aren't light I can tell you that. Oh, and my buddy has an RSX type R imported from Japan, and with a set of Radials and 4.10's I handed him his ass on the street.. I was gone before he ever hit "v-tech" hahaha..

I used to respect a couple of the import enthu. on this forum, such as 2000Si and 2001 GT, but they too have proven to be fools for sticking up for this 18 Year old know nothing kid... Exactly the reason why we (v-8 owners) cant stand SOME and MOST importers...


1) No such thing as a RSX type R

2) "V-Tech" is a company that makes house phones

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=VTech/v=2/SID=e/l=IVI/SIG=11udohq14/EXP=1117189908/*-http%3A//800sellcom.com/images/Vtech5831.jpg

Is it possible that he meant Type S? And didn't really know for the mere fact that he didn't give a ****?

Who cares if he said type r or s or type O Positive. You knew what he meant.

ORIGINAL: Sidewayz6.0

Is it possible that he meant Type S? And didn't really know for the mere fact that he didn't give a ****?

Who cares if he said type r or s or type O Positive. You knew what he meant.




It's one or the other.

RSX-S - USDM
ITR - JDM

You can't import a car that's already here. Besides, he cared enough to tell us an inane story... so he should at least TRY to get his facts straight.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si

ORIGINAL: Sidewayz6.0

Is it possible that he meant Type S? And didn't really know for the mere fact that he didn't give a ****?

Who cares if he said type r or s or type O Positive. You knew what he meant.




It's one or the other.

RSX-S - USDM
ITR - JDM

You can't import a car that's already here. Besides, he cared enough to tell us an inane story... so he should at least TRY to get his facts straight.


maybe in canada, eh?

DC5 ITRs weren't imported to Canada or the states. We only got the RSX-S.

ORIGINAL: streetterror

Uhhhhh. He has been bashing on our "BARGES" as he puts it and the Camaro. The SRT-4 argument came out of an aside. Thats why we were bashing on him.



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Alright, who all here wants this dick face banned? MODERATOR, if you got power, ban this **** head.

[sm=smiley32.gif] i'll even give you a dollar.

ORIGINAL: streetterror

Alright, who all here wants this dick face banned? MODERATOR, if you got power, ban this **** head.


hah rolling start, get outta here nub

ORIGINAL: Joe99es


ORIGINAL: streetterror

Alright, who all here wants this dick face banned? MODERATOR, if you got power, ban this **** head.


hah rolling start, get outta here nub


Maybe if you werent such a dick all the time people wouldnt be so rude to you.I dont think your parents taught you any manners.....Oh wait your from New Hampshire you have no manners and no teeth.

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ORIGINAL: Joe99es


ORIGINAL: streetterror

Alright, who all here wants this dick face banned? MODERATOR, if you got power, ban this **** head.


hah rolling start, get outta here nub


Maybe if you werent such a dick all the time people wouldnt be so rude to you.I dont think your parents taught you any manners.....Oh wait your from New Hampshire you have no manners and no teeth.



Maybe if you guys stopped bashing on me and left me the hell alone, i wouldent be a asshole to you

Well atleast im a NUB? I dont remeber seeing NUB on the clasification chart. Oh, oh well, i guess hes just retarded.

It's NOOB. You might be a NUB too, but thats beside the point.

DUUUHHHH.... i was playing on his bad spelling, and i he thinks im a noob (Nub in Joe language) he should take a look in the mirror.

HAHAHHAH......This post is hilarious, and the V-Tech phone, I bet that things got a crazy fast speed dial....hahah...continue your bashing from both sides and i'll just stay out of it.

ORIGINAL: Joe99es


ORIGINAL: 99saleen351r


ORIGINAL: Joe99es


ORIGINAL: streetterror

Alright, who all here wants this dick face banned? MODERATOR, if you got power, ban this **** head.


hah rolling start, get outta here nub


Maybe if you werent such a dick all the time people wouldnt be so rude to you.I dont think your parents taught you any manners.....Oh wait your from New Hampshire you have no manners and no teeth.



Maybe if you guys stopped bashing on me and left me the hell alone, i wouldent be a asshole to you



If you stopped giving them reasons to bash on you, they probably still would since you don't seem to be able to get a clue.

Holy crap I just read 9 pages of this stuff. Its really funny if you go back and read it over. Its 1 guy vs Mustang forums. Anyways give it a rest no one is getting anywhere with this.

ORIGINAL: Crazyfast50stang

Holy crap I just read 9 pages of this stuff. Its really funny if you go back and read it over. Its 1 guy vs Mustang forums. Anyways give it a rest no one is getting anywhere with this.


And this time I wasn't that one guy. haha

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ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock



yea but how much torque does the new rsx have?




ORIGINAL: Joe99es

200 or so, its right up there with the HP, i know the ford had more torque, but it also weighed a ton more too



BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

I just went back to read through this crap since I stayed out of it for hte most part.

You are a ****ing tool. A BIG ****ing tool.

The new RSX-S has 200 ft lbs huh? where'd you dream that one up? Fantasy land? Or did you just get out of the neverland ranch?

Jesus Christ you're ****ing stupid.

The new RSX-S has 1 more ft lb than the old one, which puts it squarely at 143 ft lbs.





Did I mention you're a moron?

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Not to mention cost a ****load of money, when you could just get a CRX ( 1800 - 1900 ibs ) and convert it to RWD and be even lighter


haha if you're lucky enough to find an old school one maybe. They're between 1900 and 2300 lbs depending on the year and trim level.


edit: you're a moron.

ORIGINAL: 98LS1


ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Actually i run 13.1 and have 250 HP and FWD, good job 400 horse


Pics? Vids? Kill yourself?


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ORIGINAL: streetterror

****in A, Finally someone brings it back to Joe beating. Im right there with you man, 2000si, i always respected you, but comon man, why try to be the peace maker and all when HE came in here bashing on our kind of cars in the first place, yeah thats good and all to defend a tuner that has not been an ass hole and has valid points, but Joe is noething more than a trash talking punk, even Talon said so, and he's into all that tuner stuff, so please dont defend the morons. Comon man, this guy is just like 88mustanglx, you remember that idiot that couldnt stand how fast that RSX was and was all calling it gay and slow, thats exactly what Joe99 has been doing, just less blunt, but same exact thing, so he deserves every bit of our anger. Just my 2 cents, and endless headache on Joes part.


ORIGINAL: 91hatchgt

First off, I HAVE to comment on the snake emblem post!! HAHAHAHA That has got to be the funniest thing I have EVER heard, and I noticed how he has skipped out on all the comments made about that post of his, but MAN it was hilarious.. Thanks for the Laugh!!!

As for the 93 GT only having 200 HP. Sure... but had 300 FT lbs, twice what the 4 cyl's have, and dont try to say they're heavy, because the new RSX's aren't light I can tell you that. Oh, and my buddy has an RSX type R imported from Japan, and with a set of Radials and 4.10's I handed him his ass on the street.. I was gone before he ever hit "v-tech" hahaha..

I used to respect a couple of the import enthu. on this forum, such as 2000Si and 2001 GT, but they too have proven to be fools for sticking up for this 18 Year old know nothing kid... Exactly the reason why we (v-8 owners) cant stand SOME and MOST importers...




hey hey hey! I never EVER defended HIM. I supported the TRUE facts with my vast import knowledge that he doesn't have. I'm just now seeing things that I have gone ahead and corrected since I stayed out of this for the most part.

lol

Dear lord, I figured I would wait a few days to see what happens with this post. HAHAHA!!! Joe....I find it funny how you're calling people a "Nub", and going on the fact that you're a above a rolling start. The funny thing is, is that you were a rolling start member when you started blabing about stupid **** on this post. You've talked so much **** on one thread that it got you to a "2nd Gear Member" status in a few days....funny. Whats really funny though, is that you're talking like you actually finished 4th grade....or 5th.....depending on how many times you watched F&F.....hmmmm. I think its funny how this thread has 10 pages of everyone telling you how much of a D*** you are....and how much you obviously dont know. Listen here bub, do us all a favor, actually ask questions instead of relying on your elite knowlege of Universal Studios, and maybe...just maybe...if you can post informative facts instead talking out your a$$, we would'nt want to "ram you repeatedly in the balls with a 9 iron" (TheAntiRice). So quite being a d***, d***! By the way, that BS you've been talking about...you know...the 13.1...perhaps. [sm=icon_beat.gif] You know better than to lie....again. Peace be with you,

Right on 2000si, i kinda thought i you were just commenting on what was infront of you at the time, it may say my status is just a rolling start, but ive been on these forums for a loooooooonng time and am just now speaking out my opinions. Joe wouldnt know a NOOB (NUB as he putes it) from a senior, so good to see you joining in the bashing, its people like him that give people like you a bad rap.

ORIGINAL: 2000Si


ORIGINAL: streetterror

****in A, Finally someone brings it back to Joe beating. Im right there with you man, 2000si, i always respected you, but comon man, why try to be the peace maker and all when HE came in here bashing on our kind of cars in the first place, yeah thats good and all to defend a tuner that has not been an ass hole and has valid points, but Joe is noething more than a trash talking punk, even Talon said so, and he's into all that tuner stuff, so please dont defend the morons. Comon man, this guy is just like 88mustanglx, you remember that idiot that couldnt stand how fast that RSX was and was all calling it gay and slow, thats exactly what Joe99 has been doing, just less blunt, but same exact thing, so he deserves every bit of our anger. Just my 2 cents, and endless headache on Joes part.


ORIGINAL: 91hatchgt

First off, I HAVE to comment on the snake emblem post!! HAHAHAHA That has got to be the funniest thing I have EVER heard, and I noticed how he has skipped out on all the comments made about that post of his, but MAN it was hilarious.. Thanks for the Laugh!!!

As for the 93 GT only having 200 HP. Sure... but had 300 FT lbs, twice what the 4 cyl's have, and dont try to say they're heavy, because the new RSX's aren't light I can tell you that. Oh, and my buddy has an RSX type R imported from Japan, and with a set of Radials and 4.10's I handed him his ass on the street.. I was gone before he ever hit "v-tech" hahaha..

I used to respect a couple of the import enthu. on this forum, such as 2000Si and 2001 GT, but they too have proven to be fools for sticking up for this 18 Year old know nothing kid... Exactly the reason why we (v-8 owners) cant stand SOME and MOST importers...




hey hey hey! I never EVER defended HIM. I supported the TRUE facts with my vast import knowledge that he doesn't have. I'm just now seeing things that I have gone ahead and corrected since I stayed out of this for the most part.

i wonder how many $$$$$$$$$ it took to bring the big dog off the trailer? i am by no means a camaro fan but i do like the older ones

This is some funny **** that i have been reading. how long is this guy going to keep arguing points he can't possibly comprehend? i know were all thinking shut the hell up and if u want to bring it do so but if not then shut up. oh yeah by the way bad ass camero and like everyone says race what you brung.

oh yeah for an evo that is one fast car.

WTF are you talking about, FOR A EVO that is one fast car? it was stomping 670 rwhp cobra's w/o the nitrious and its 600 hp.. add the nitrious in there and its over for any mustang on here

dude calm ur happy self down 600hp is an accomplishment for anything especially if its ur daily driver.......so what if my wording didn't suit you i was trying to give the 4 banger a compliment so calm yourself down. damn

Dude, you cant even reason with this dumb ****, hes so ignorantly retarded that he doesnt even know a complement when he see's it, you would have to read from post one to see how he is, and then hopfully join in the bashing of him. Cause Joe, you are a pussy ****** fairy **** that needs to shut the **** up or kill youreself for the betterment of man kind. God, how are you still here with a mouth like that, would figure someone toook you out long time ago.

ORIGINAL: Jasperstang308

dude calm ur happy self down 600hp is an accomplishment for anything especially if its ur daily driver.......so what if my wording didn't suit you i was trying to give the 4 banger a compliment so calm yourself down. damn

Ok Rolling Start, N00b

ORIGINAL: jackass homo

Ok Rolling Start, N00b

yeap................................still the same ****ing moron you was yesterday:eek:

ohhhhh, i wanna join the Joe is a tool club, how?;)

those tuned turbo diesel's are fast as hell.. I don't like racing them :x

doesn't matter what your car has on it, or what it took to do it-that car is faster than the other. could, woulda, shoulda.

fast is fast-I don't care what it takes to go fast, as long as it's fast.. i really like going fast.... and so does everyone else here. If I'm in a fast civic, I like that civic.. If I'm in a fast GTO, I like that GTO..

the comments made by joe seem like they were taken from a magazine? (if you do this, this, that and this..you can win) whereas the other indepth explinations by other members seem like first hand experience.. regardless of what you think you know, why flame someone-even if your defending? discuss, and maybe you'll learn something new. I read this forum a lot, and generally just read the posts...

one point I noticed no one made during this entire convo-DRIVER SKILL!?! :D driving twisties is more driver skill, car just helps you. I could beat myself if I was driving my corsica or malibu vs my mustang.. just because I'm used to automatic techniques over manual.. since I've only been driving stick for a month.

Moderator...where art thou? BAN JOE!!!!!!!Ok Rolling Start, N00b This says it all!!!! Obviously he's out to provoke and cause arguments. I'm sure this thread gives plenty of evidence that he is doing nothing except for causing trouble. Joe....as I said....and everyone else on the forum, QUITE BEING AN A$$!!!!!!!! Im sure you and your buddies are writing on the forums and laughing becuase you were taleted enough to piss everyone off. Well, congrats....I guess. You now have officially graduated from a jerk, to a tool. Im sure your mom would be proud...oh wait...its you we are talking about...never mind.

Peace,

Run what you brung are you serious? That thing had to be trailored in and have a 300 shot, thats like all the HP of the 05 GT on top of whatever the camaro is making as a baseline.. if that dosent put it into perspective, then idk.. but thats redicilous.. evo should be running 40 psi by now

I guess I don't understand how you think Nitrous and a Turbo are two different things? They're both power adders. So why is it okay for the EVO to have a turbo, but the Camaro can't use N20?

ORIGINAL: Sidewayz6.0

I guess I don't understand how you think Nitrous and a Turbo are two different things? They're both power adders. So why is it okay for the EVO to have a turbo, but the Camaro can't use N20?


Because hes a dumb S**T and he just has to argue stupid points to try to make himself think he knows what hes talkin about!He doesnt even have car if he does its a Barbie bigwheel

Joe99es, sorry guy but your making some weak arguements, the Evo got killed plain and simple, there's always a fast car out there, the Evo was killing all the other cars that we thought it shouldnt have beat the Corba's the Camaro etc. so why is not possible for it to lose, that all im saying its an insane car(the Evo) but its posible for it to lose.

fun reading. i like how everyone calls joe a stupid immature fag and how he hasn't finished 4th or 5th grade. yet, you guys are the ones that are doing all the childish name calling.

and no, i don't agree with anything he's saying. just reading this though, feels like i'm back on the playground.

MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD KTHX

man, i just read this whole freaking post, i thought that was .02 cents worthy to me, man you guys tore joe a new one lol. everytime he said something i wanted to call him on, but someone did it for me. he made up facts, thats some funny @#$%!

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Yes a stroker kit that add .3 of a liter, whoopty do, there was a 502 CI Classic Camaro like the one in the vid at the track this friday and it was running 13's, give me a break


yeah but that camaro in the vid is a hell of alot faster than 13 sec.
Hear that cam? DAMN!!! Theres NOTHING I mean nothing like American muscle. Nothing but American muscle can sound that good.
SICK!!

ORIGINAL: I G Joe

for some reason i doubt if he had the money in that 427ci he wouldnt need that 300shot.


it wasent a 427, it was bored to 412ci.

You gave me the perfect opening buddy, thanks

Speaking of "American Muscle" , You do realize that all the parts that you get for your car are made in places like china, japan, mexico? Its actually funny.. if you go take a tour of a plant like chevy or dodge, you see everyone walking around wearing Mopar Performance Shirts, or shirts that say **** about imports... And then you see there parts box, and everything is is made in places like mexico and china... thats real american muscle huh

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Listen, if you cant atleast understand my argument, then dotn call me the igorant one... Torque Wins races right? And the heavier the car, the more torque it takes to move it.. and V8's are like fuqin barges, they NEED all that torque to get moving.. if you build up a miata that weighs 2200 - 2300 pounds you dont need as much TQ to get moving, hence you are generally faster

Miatas are more like 2600lbs, not no 2200. azzwipe.

Really, what did the 94 Miata Weigh in at pal?

ORIGINAL: streetterror

**** it, show me what you got, show me youre car, you got a car that will run 9's? 10's, 11's? Didnt think so, but just in case, im putting a direct challeng to you, bring youre pos whatever out and well go heads up, thats right i challenging you, what you got? Think youre the ****, can you back up those words? ****ing do it then.


I think streetterror got alittle pissed off here. LMAO!!!

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Really, what did the 94 Miata Weigh in at pal?


First off im not your pal. I WILL put a foot in your azz so dont even think of messin with me. And yes, even a old 94 weights over 2500lbs. So come and bring your Miata and I will flip it over with my bare hands, (with you inside of course).

Actually the first gen miatas weigh 2200 you ignorant SOB

And people dont forget that Camaro is strictly a 1/4 mile car. He raced from his weakest point and at the EVO's strongest and still smoked his azz. Line them up at a light and see what happens. He'd be through the quarter and setting up for another run before the EVO even gets to half track.

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Actually the first gen miatas weigh 2200 you ignorant SOB

Who the hell do you think your talking to you punk? Please be close to me so I can beytch slap you. And again, your a LIAR!!!! They weight 2529lbs to be exact. Im not talking WITHOUT the motor and tranny. dick!!

ORIGINAL: tomabram

And people dont forget that Camaro is strictly a 1/4 mile car. He raced from his weakest point and at the EVO's strongest and still smoked his azz. Line them up at a light and see what happens. He'd be through the quarter and setting up for another run before the EVO even gets to half track.


How can you see that was the EVO"s strongest point when the Evo is AWD and they ran from a roll, are you that ****ing retarded?

ORIGINAL: tomabram


ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Actually the first gen miatas weigh 2200 you ignorant SOB

Who the hell do you think your talking to you punk? Please be close to me so I can beytch slap you. And again, your a LIAR!!!! They weight 2529lbs to be exact. Im not talking WITHOUT the motor and tranny. dick!!



FIRST GEN MIATAS DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH? the 05 WIEGHS 2500, YOUR SO IGNORANT ITS REDICILOUS

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

You gave me the perfect opening buddy, thanks

Speaking of "American Muscle" , You do realize that all the parts that you get for your car are made in places like china, japan, mexico? Its actually funny.. if you go take a tour of a plant like chevy or dodge, you see everyone walking around wearing Mopar Performance Shirts, or shirts that say **** about imports... And then you see there parts box, and everything is is made in places like mexico and china... thats real american muscle huh



yeah, what the radio. Your a tool. and a dumbass.

ORIGINAL: Joe99es


ORIGINAL: tomabram

And people dont forget that Camaro is strictly a 1/4 mile car. He raced from his weakest point and at the EVO's strongest and still smoked his azz. Line them up at a light and see what happens. He'd be through the quarter and setting up for another run before the EVO even gets to half track.


How can you see that was the EVO"s strongest point when the Evo is AWD and they ran from a roll, are you that ****ing retarded?


But it is a turbo car and even your dumbass should know turbo cars run better from a roll,and that camaro would have really ass raped that thing from a dig............and oh i forgot you still a ****ing tool you ricer SOB!!!;)

ORIGINAL: Joe99es


ORIGINAL: tomabram


ORIGINAL: Joe99es

Actually the first gen miatas weigh 2200 you ignorant SOB

Who the hell do you think your talking to you punk? Please be close to me so I can beytch slap you. And again, your a LIAR!!!! They weight 2529lbs to be exact. Im not talking WITHOUT the motor and tranny. dick!!



FIRST GEN MIATAS DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH? the 05 WIEGHS 2500, YOUR SO IGNORANT ITS REDICILOUS


The 94 Miata weights 2529!!!!!! TOOL!!

ORIGINAL: Joe99es

You gave me the perfect opening buddy, thanks

Speaking of "American Muscle" , You do realize that all the parts that you get for your car are made in places like china, japan, mexico? Its actually funny.. if you go take a tour of a plant like chevy or dodge, you see everyone walking around wearing Mopar Performance Shirts, or shirts that say **** about imports... And then you see there parts box, and everything is is made in places like mexico and china... thats real american muscle huh



haha tool, you have absolutely no way of knowing that. Had you said electronic components, yes. I know that's true... but car parts? no.

1) Im talking about the 94 you ignorant SOB

2) In regards to the turbo comment.. just rev it at the tree before start to build boost

ORIGINAL: stangpower96


ORIGINAL: Joe99es


ORIGINAL: tomabram

And people dont forget that Camaro is strictly a 1/4 mile car. He raced from his weakest point and at the EVO's strongest and still smoked his azz. Line them up at a light and see what happens. He'd be through the quarter and setting up for another run before the EVO even gets to half track.


How can you see that was the EVO"s strongest point when the Evo is AWD and they ran from a roll, are you that ****ing retarded?