RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 1:29:34 AM
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2kConvMustang
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All I gotta say is good race I love that Evo it mad me wanna go get one and add it tp my collection, but I am gonna try for a Cobra instead but anyway that Camaro was outrageous the other Camaro it race jump on em but then the boost kicked in on that Evo but not this time, the Camaro won fair
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Cobra's are played out dude.. I went to teh dragway last friday and there was like 9 cobra's there, there a dime a dozen
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 5:22:49 AM
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A 300 Shot, WTF
Evo woulda had him if he didnt spray
wow, why is this kid still on this site...someone, please give him the boot. he's obviously here to do nothing but state insignificant comments and flame on every topic containing an import.
Nothin like sallys using fake HP right outta the bottle cause they dont wanna take the time and build up there engine the right way
So a turbo is fair, but nitrous is not???
do you have any idea what that camaro would be running like with a turbo? Trust me his competition doesn't want that.
No ****en kidden! Finally someone points out the odvious, ummm.... Just how much Money did the EVO guy spend to get his car that fast compared to a car that has absoulutly zero smog requirments, and hell if you wanna add a turbo, why not add two, or three? Cubes will always win in the long haul, so if that maro wanted to build his car with the soul intention of beating the hell out of that evo, ding ding ding! Sorry, old scool displacement always wins.
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 9:57:59 AM
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Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 12:43:27 PM
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Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock
Dude, you seriously are the biggest ricer I have ever seen on this forum. You are everything that people hate about ricers. You make points that have no sense to them, blab off about stuff you have no idea about, and generally make ignorant comments.
WTF are you talking about, a 93 GT?? Do what? We are comparing apples to sledgehammers now? (and btw, a 93 gt is pretty far away from "old school displacement" rofl)
Let me break something down for you. Power = Fuel. The more fuel you can compress into the engine while keeping the A/F ratio nominal, the more power you make. It really is that simple. The only think N20, turbos, and blowers are allowing you to do is smash more air in there, so you can spray in more fuel while keeping the ratio the same.
Oh there are other factors than size, such as how well the intake and heads flow, and what the compression ratio is, but it still is all about compressing a large amount of fuel alot while keeping the A/F on the safe side.
Now, which engine is it easyer to burn more fuel in, the larger one, or the smaller one? Which can flow more air both N/A and Boosted?
Which engine is better for making more power?
God, your like arguing with a liberal. No matter what the obvious proof is, no matter how well it is backed up, you still valantly hold on to your "facts" (everyone else calls it your opinion) blindly because whatever you think obivously is correct.
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 1:05:42 PM
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Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock
... Are you numb?
Look at all the crap from the 80's all that damn smog crap just starting and trying to work their ways around it.
All the horrid flowing parts on that poor n/a engine.
Not to mention the low compression ratio compared to things of today
With a proper setup you can basically double the power of that stock 302 n/a
Try doing the same thing with that 4banger.
Oh, you can't. Only option is boost.
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 1:32:44 PM
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both cars were badass..but I like the EVO in that vid better...it was a street car as well as a racer where as the camaro had more dragstrip manners...
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 1:51:00 PM
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Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock
God, your like arguing with a liberal. No matter what the obvious proof is, no matter how well it is backed up, you still valantly hold on to your "facts" (everyone else calls it your opinion) blindly because whatever you think obivously is correct.
HAHAHA!!!!! GT, thank you so much. Joe...the funny thing about this whole thread is that you are totally argueing with false premises with all of the V-8 buffs. Here I am, a respectable DSM owner...telling you that you obviously dont have a clue about whats going on. Your comments, rebutles, premises all have absolutely NO validity...this is....perhaps....because you don't have any experience at all with automobile performance. People like myself, 2000GT, 98LS1, obviously have extesive performance mods to our automobiles. The only reason we are telling you to shut the hell up, is because you sound like every other ignorent ricer when you make a comment. Here I am, an import owner...telling you to shut up now and keep at least a little dignity for yourself. Not trying to be a dick, just pointing a ricer to the REAL road of performance...instead of this F&F fantasy world you are living in. Maybe if you would take the time to ask questions instead of pretending you are Paul Walker, you would learn something....maybe.
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 6:24:51 PM
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 10:11:01 PM
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why do peolple keep saying the evo is a daily driver? at 35 psi ? good luck drivin that thing back in forth to work everyday.
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/17/2005 11:48:21 PM
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seriously joe99es
if your gonna come on to the forums to talk smack about american muscle cars then buzz off cuz no one wants your garbage here.
also about you saying an older 93gt putting out 200 horses thats true, but look at a 69 camaro or a older chevelle hell look at an old charger or cuda. look at them, 900-1000hp, alcohol burning machines. now look at your 4 banger and say they can take it. no. they cant. that 67 camaro had alot more weight then that fiberglass evo. dont get me wrong i dont have problems with imports. i just dont like people who come and talk smack about muscle cars. if you wanna go thrive your imports go to honda-tech or what ever. but in the end displacement cant be replaced. v8 > all kthx.
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/18/2005 1:08:02 AM
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why do peolple keep saying the evo is a daily driver? at 35 psi ? good luck drivin that thing back in forth to work everyday.
Turbo PSI can be turned down, the EVO is a daily driver... its not some trailer queen like that camaro was, comin in on a trailor with a stripped interior and mammoth slicks
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/18/2005 3:29:18 AM
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Alright Joe99, if this will make you happy, ive shown this vid to two of my friends up here that would kill to run up against him and are daily drivers, on a 88 Saleen running 9.2 on the quarter and on the street and my good buddy and his 69 "Daily Driven" Camaro that ran 9.2 just last week. If the weathers fair he drives it to work every time, and by the way, its a cheery show car. And odviously you dont have a clue as to why displacement counts but then again you probably think that theres a lawn mower engine powering the quickest cars on the planet. Common man, you cant see why top fuelers have yet to be beat? I love imports, i love making them fast, but when it comes down to it, bigger cubes always win. Geeze... Its not like were talking down about that EVO, were just stating the facts, besides, if all you rely on is stickers to add hp on youre car, youre a ricer WTF? NM, Late
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/18/2005 3:31:11 AM
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ya but then how fast will it be? Your gonna want to turn it down quite a bit if it's a daily driver.
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/18/2005 6:28:41 AM
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why do peolple keep saying the evo is a daily driver? at 35 psi ? good luck drivin that thing back in forth to work everyday.
Turbo PSI can be turned down, the EVO is a daily driver... its not some trailer queen like that camaro was, comin in on a trailor with a stripped interior and mammoth slicks
By the way, incase you forgot...or have a lack of knowlege ( I think so), the Evo is AWD. Kinda makes for a better launch...just maybe. The camaro pushing 1000whp is gonna need traction....even the fastest awd cars need slicks...again...use what ya brung...and maybe the reason he trailered it in...was because driving a 1000whp car in the city=trouble, cops, perhaps death?....maybe? I have enough trouble driving my 380whp daily driven talon around. Peace
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/18/2005 8:45:46 AM
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I really doubt he had over 800 HP, he pulled on the evo at first, but not very hard.. and then by the end of the race the evo had not started pulling on him, but slowed the rate at which the maro was.. So if it takes a 1000 RWHP 300 Shot camaro to beat a 600 HP Evo, thats sad
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RE: 600awhp EVO w/55 shot vs Cobra vs Camaro - 5/18/2005 8:56:38 AM
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Old school displacement always wins? NOT... technology is what wins dude.... Take the 93 GT for example, what did it have, like 205 HP stock? out of a 5 Liter V8 engine wtf? And now you have a RSX-S with half its displacement that has 210 hp stock
yea but how much torque does the new rsx have?
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