tokinGLX

ive never fugged with this before and it seems that im having some issues getting the debugger to work right¿ im using the correct path for the symbols(far as im aware of) but its acting like it doesnt have the right one.
this is what i get when i open the crash dump in windbg.
im just trying to get my computer to be able to run a program without blue screening on me...anybody have any help to offer¿



Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.9.0003.113 X86
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\1\Minidump\Mini062508-02.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

Symbol search path is: SRV*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols

Executable search path is:
Unable to load image ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Windows XP Kernel Version 2600 (Service Pack 3.3244) MP (2 procs) Free x86 compatible
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Kernel base = 0x804d7000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0x8055d720
Debug session time: Wed Jun 25 16:10:37.687 2008 (GMT-6)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:43:14.410
Unable to load image ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntoskrnl.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
.................................................. .................................................. ......................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
...........
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* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
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Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 1000000A, {0, ff, 0, 806e4ea0}

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.

Unable to load image AmdK8.sys, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for AmdK8.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for AmdK8.sys
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*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
************************************************** ***********************
************************************************** ***********************
*** ***
*** ***
*** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols ***
*** ***
*** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path ***
*** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. ***
*** ***
*** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not ***
*** contain the required information. Contact the group that ***
*** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to ***
*** work. ***
*** ***
*** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB ***
*** ***
************************************************** ***********************
Probably caused by : hardware ( AmdK8+3552 )

Followup: MachineOwner
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mattlowe01

your not using the right symbols....






















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honestly, no idea. figured id bump ya lol. never used windows minidump before. what program are you trying to run?

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tokinGLX

the windows debugger.

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mattlowe01

looking at it closer, it looks like its having problems with your processor. cant load the k8 drivers for the amd chip, drivers, maybe? do you ahve the latest chipset drivers from amd? what about your bios, see if theres any updates for that

only things i can think of.

Unable to load image AmdK8.sys, Win32 error 0n2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for AmdK8.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for AmdK8.sys
Probably caused by : hardware ( AmdK8+3552 )


your using the right symbols, but it couldnt load the symbols from your amdk8.sys driver

also since its an amd chip, look into the CnQ setting (cool and quiet) in the bios, try turning that off and running it again. sometimes the cnq can cause the most random and anoying errors. either that or try downloading the cnq drivers.

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FirePower

Debugging an app you didn't write is fairly futile.

What is the app that won't run? What's your OS?

Did you try running it in some compatability mode?

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tokinGLX

do you know what a "minidump" is¿
if so, great, i have a couple followup questions for you, if not................our conversation is over.



running winxp, its not any particular program, its games, videos, and video editing software.
maybe i need a beefier power supply¿
i have a 450 watt in there right now- onboard sound, a geforce 8600gt, the amd 64 x2 processor and only one hard drive and cd drive plugged into a asus m2n-sli mobo
i also always figured heat was an issue, when it first started happening, it got progressively worse, shutting down sooner and sooner. so i opened it up(after it was about a month or two old) and cleaned out the dust caked on the fan/heatsink, i noticed that the processor fan was blows air onto the heatsink, is this normal¿ im pretty sure when i put my last computer together i had that fan blowing away from the processor and i only had to clean that thing out once every year or so.
nowdays i have to clean it out on a monthly basis, this lets me(for the most part) play the more basic games and watch movies and whatnot. hell, i even jumped into unreal tourny 3 the other day for a few kills without it quittin on me
anyways. my core temp idles(happy 420!!!) at about 54c usually. under load during the middle of the day it gets into the high 70s and im sure under heavy load it dips into the 80s.

im not trying to debug any app, im just trying to read the memory dump and hopefully get something that looks like this- http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/...analyze-a.aspx
not that much any of that info could help me, but there are other technophiles out there who can make good sense out of the jargon.

matt, i just downloaded the driver, gonna go ahead and check into that cnq in a few here too

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mattlowe01

thats a normal temp for those gpus. they run fuggggging hot. if nvidia isnt throwing any errors at your or your not getting graphic problems in the games, those temps are perfecftly fine.

450 *SOLID* watts should be perfectly fine to run that system. You need to look more into the amperages, as fewer more powerful components will draw more amps, watts are helpful when you throw 98349834893 different things in a pc (4hdds, 2gpus, cpu, 2 dvd drives, bunch of fans, etc)

what psu do you have?

as for air blowing onto the heatsink, yeah thats normal. You generally get more airflow by blowing towards the heatsink than pulling.

What you could look into is buying some Arctic Silver thermal paste and reapplying it, a good thermal paste job will drop your degrees dramatically over stock crappy paste. It requres pulling the heatsink off the chip and reapplying it though. If you want better temps, go with Arctic Silver 5, wont last as long but will give you the best temps, if you want better temps but a 2 degrees hotter than as5,but will last forever, look into Arctic Silver Ceramic(sp?) newegg carrys tubes of it.

Also better things to drop temps, ambient. If its in a hot room, its going to run hot no matter what. If its stuck in a wood enclosure in a desk, take it out or make some air holes for it. Friends dell would over heat constantly untill i took it out of the desk that they had.

Dust!! Clean it out at least once a month. Dust KILLS airflow.

Better fans/Better heatsink.

Also, i would get a voltmeter and monitor the 12v draw from your power supply. If it drops significantly lower than 11.75v then you need a new psu, or if it spikes above 12.2

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