God is responsible for Evil, Our Suffering, and Damnation

Adonis_Dragon · 06-20-2008, 09:55 AM

NOTE: No sarcasm in this post from me.

God created everything, right?

God knows everything too, right?

God created Evil as well?

God knew that we would be tainted with evil.
He also knew that people would die in Not believing in Him?

Knowing these events would take place, He knew that there will be those that would be denied in to Heaven.

Why would he create that universe for us?
Why wouldn't He create a world perfect for us, where everyone will live a great and happy life, die, and get in to Heaven?

MustangFanatic44 · 06-20-2008, 09:57 AM

i can see this post getting locked, PM me

drhoward · 06-20-2008, 10:00 AM

I'm god, and I will explain it all to you if you paypal me 200 dollars

Adonis_Dragon · 06-20-2008, 10:01 AM

I'm not trying to start anything.

Just a real question i was thinking about.

iluvmycar · 06-20-2008, 10:05 AM

Before this gets locked I'll answer.

If God did what you suggested. We would not have one of the greatest gifts we were given.
Free will. He gave us the gift to choose what we do.Otherwise we would not really be alive.

Evil was something that came from choices.

mustangcat · 06-20-2008, 10:10 AM

Haven't you ever walked through Wal Mart late at night and looked at all the peoples faces?

God has a cruel sense of humor.

99GTvert · 06-20-2008, 10:16 AM

if there's too much good and no bad/evil, then the good just doesn't seem so good anymore then does it?

Adonis_Dragon · 06-20-2008, 10:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: iluvmycar

Before this gets locked I'll answer.

If God did what you suggested. We would not have one of the greatest gifts we were given.
Free will. He gave us the gift to choose what we do.Â*Otherwise we would not really be alive.

Evil was something that came from choices.

Yes, thats an idea. So my question to that is, why would He do that?

Is it in fact, we do not have free-will?
Falling on the idea that God knew what was to happen before he created it.

iluvmycar · 06-20-2008, 10:21 AM

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Adonis_Dragon:
Yes, thats an idea. So my question to that is, why would He do that?

Is it in fact, we do not have free-will?
Falling on the idea that God knew what was to happen before he created it.

God knew that we would make choices yes. God leaves the choices up to us.

We do have free will, absolutely. If you are asking if we don't have free will because you believe God knows the choices we will make,
that has nothing to do with it.

If he does know what choices we will make it does not mean that he makes the choices for us now does it? It would simply mean
he has the knowledge of what choice we will in fact make.
Your next question may be... then why does he let us make the wrong choices?
Well... if he did not let us, THEN we would not have free will.

josmoe5000 · 06-20-2008, 10:26 AM

Quote:

ORIGINAL: Adonis_Dragon

Quote:

ORIGINAL: iluvmycar

Before this gets locked I'll answer.

If God did what you suggested. We would not have one of the greatest gifts we were given.
Free will. He gave us the gift to choose what we do.Otherwise we would not really be alive.

Evil was something that came from choices.

Yes, thats an idea. So my question to that is, why would He do that?

Is it in fact, we do not have free-will?
Falling on the idea that God knew what was to happen before he created it.

When I'm sitting at a stop light, I know before it happens that it is going to change to green. That doesn't mean I had anything to do with it changing green, I just knew it was going to happen before it actually did.

Likewise, God knows your future but that doesn't mean he makes your outcome for you.