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Old 06-15-2008, 11:56 AM   #1
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Default super charger, is it worth it?

i have a 92' 2.3L LX. i was thinking of getting a cetrifugal style supercharger, mabey a vortech. im not really a gearhead or anything but ive driven my step dad's lightning around and im a big fan of the supercharger. i know my car wont be nearly that powerful but i want that feeling of being pushed back in my seat without getting a gas gussling engine. so...
1. should i supercharge it or turbo it
2. is it even worth the cost or should i just wait for a better car
3. about how much would it cost to supercharge/ turbo my mustang
4. is it even possible to supercharge it or do i have to go with a turbo
5. what parts would i need for either set up

a lot of questions i know, but any advice would be greatly appreciated
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Old 06-15-2008, 02:47 PM   #2
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Default RE: super charger, is it worth it?

1 Turbo supercharge done. Major expense and custom building and near can remember 135Hp
145 Hp factory lowest efi turbo setup.
2 My opion yes. Cheap to do and learn about cars and tuning.
3 and 4 Supercharge Lot of custom setup. You fiqure cost. Turbo. I bought entire setup motor everything for 250. But that varies. But have more in it now. Still cheaper than a good used 5.0
5 Supercharge ?. Tech above for turbo setup. By the welcome.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:26 PM   #3
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Supercharging a 4 banger in my opinion is a waste. Just Remeber it takes the Crank to spin the Supercharger, so in Other Words, you have to burn Power to make power, and our 88 HP Mustangs ain't got much to lose

Like MG said, Turbo Engines can be found cheap, got mine Engine, Transmission, and Turbo for 150 Bucks
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Old 06-15-2008, 07:11 PM   #4
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I'd say the centrifugal route on a 4 cylinder is kindof a waste compared to a turbo. I think you'd be better off with roots or turbo.

Because turbo parts for the 2.3 are all over the place it may be the cheaper route to go & less fabrication.

The roots route would make the car behave more like a v8 with 4 cylinder fuel economy. They're more of an all range power adder, but turbos are more efficient on high end. It would take a custom bracket though which aren't too hard to make imo.

I think you'll be happy either way.

Also keep in mind either way you're going to need a computer/injectors that can deal with the boost. This is the reason I said that the turbo route would be cheaper, EECs/air meters/injectors are pretty available for the turbo people.
IMO I think you're better off getting a standalone & wideband if you can't find the eec for cheap.
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:25 PM   #5
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can you even get a roots style supercharger on a straight 4cyl? i thought they only made them for 8cyl engines...
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Old 06-22-2008, 06:13 PM   #6
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can you even get a roots style supercharger on a straight 4cyl? i thought they only made them for 8cyl engines...
get an eaton m90 or m112 and make a custom intake manifold
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:39 AM   #7
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can you even get a roots style supercharger on a straight 4cyl? i thought they only made them for 8cyl engines...
They're mostly seen on v6's & v8 cars, but there are still quite a few 4 cylinder cars with them. Most companies use them on 4 cylinders to retain the 4 cylinder fuel economy, but make the engine accelerate & feel torqey like a v8.
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get an eaton m90 or m112 and make a custom intake manifold
An m112 is a little big for the 2.3. Honestly the m90 is a little big for it aswell. Both will work, but roots supercharging a car is the same as turboing a car as far as size; you go too big you lose efficiency, you go too small you lose efficiency.

You would probably be better off with an m62 for the 2.3.

You don't need to make a custom intake manifold for it. The only real necessity is that you mount the inlet of the supercharger AFTER the throttle body. You can leave the intake the same, but you'll have to move the tb. & you will have to make a custom bracket, which is cake to make as long as you can weld, cut metal. roots s/c kits are extremely easy to make imo. The hardest part if you're going the junkyard route is finding a crank pulley if you're using two belts (one for accessory, one for the s/c alone) With an m62 you really don't need a separate belt for the s/c as the hp required to drive an m62 isn't too great.

As far as the throttle body you kinda have it made if you're using an m62, generally you can find an m62 with one still bolted to the supercharger case, but you'll have to run a longer throttle cable (I usually just use bicycle brake cable)

Also, you can use a front mount intercooler with one. The deal with that is, the further the throttle plate is away from the engine, the slower the throttle response, but with the supercharger response is still pretty quick even with a fmic plumped in.
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