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Who's raced a lancer, sti or srt4 other than crhis? I know the srt4 is not awd! What happened and what speed did you start to gain again? what yr and model was your satng?
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I put a Turbo XS ECU and a Boost controller into my buddies WRX, and then installed a map selector so he could run 17lbs. I drove it on both the stock setting, and the racing application and it was a huge improvement. Anyway, we went from a stop (4 bangers are historically bad in the 1/4 mile, but 0-60 is nice) and he took me off the line, as most 4WDs will, I pulled on him in second and he caught back up when he started getting into the high revs, where I drop off. We went to about 80 and I had about a length and a half on him.
Regular WRX's have 227hp and run low 14's, so a a stock stang could easily keep up with one. On the other hand an STI is amazing. It can hit 13.1 or 13.2 in the 1/4mile stock. With just an intake and exhaust it can keep up with a stock 2003 Cobra. Unless your Stang is really modified. Stay away from the STI's. My friend just recently bought a 2004 Srt-4. He got it for 21k fully loaded. The only thing he has on it is a Mopar BOV. From what i hear the 2004's are a little quicker then the 2003 Srt-4's. Anyways from what ive read in the srt forums, they can hit high 13's-low 14's stock. Very quick car for the price, but its still a neon.
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[QUOTE=chrisle7220] On the other hand an STI is amazing. It can hit 13.1 or 13.2 in the 1/4mile stock. With just an intake and exhaust it can keep up with a stock 2003 Cobra. [/QUOTE]
A new cobra can hit mid to high 12's stock, and an intake and exhaust won't make that much difference.
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i've seen an STi run a 13.08 with just a filter and BOV. his first run, still practicing his launch. the 04 SRT-4 has an LSD, wich is one reason they are a bit quicker. and rated slightly higher at 240 bhp. and 20,995 is the MSRP, Chrissle your friend didn't get one fully loaded. they make them one way, and one way only, and that's the way your friends is. but of course, that means they put some good creature comforts in there.
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well not being cocky or anything but its not really that hard to launch and awd car. i launched my friends evo and its sooooo much easier then the mustang. i took the evo to 4 grand and just pretty much dropped the clutch and it just hooked and went.
[QUOTE=chrisle7220] On the other hand an STI is amazing. It can hit 13.1 or 13.2 in the 1/4mile stock. With just an intake and exhaust it can keep up with a stock 2003 Cobra. [/QUOTE]
A new cobra can hit mid to high 12's stock, and an intake and exhaust won't make that much difference.
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The WRX has 3 cats...I don't wanna know how many the STi has, if you put on an aftermarket exhaust on an STi, you'll see more than a 5 hp gain like you would a Honda. I believe it could hang onto a Cobra with intake/exhaust.
For whoever said it, the newer SRT4s are going to have 240 hp advertised, over the 215 they advertised upon it's release...
I'm sure you all saw the dyno numbers on the "215 hp" engine...which slammed 223 hp to the front wheels. If the SRT4 came in AWD, I'd buy it. But until then I'll stick to loving the WRX.
I messed with a WRX on the Interstate in my Maxima one day. I was alone and he had two passengers. From about 70-115 it didn't impress me We never ran from any slower than 70 so I didn't get to witness the all mighty AWD launch. If thats all they have then my TA would own it as well as most of your new stangs should.
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People who have relatively stock Subarus and put an aftermarket BOV on are ricers, pure and simple. Either that or they don't know what they're doing.
It has been proven time and time again that the stock BOV is the best, until you start screwing with engine management. The ECU expects to see the boost redirected back into the intake, and if that doesn't happen it'll hurt performance somehow. I'm not sure on the mechanics behind it, but that's just the way it is.
[QUOTE=95LT1]I messed with a WRX on the Interstate in my Maxima one day. I was alone and he had two passengers. From about 70-115 it didn't impress me We never ran from any slower than 70 so I didn't get to witness the all mighty AWD launch. If thats all they have then my TA would own it as well as most of your new stangs should.[/QUOTE]
So he didn't impress you because he had an extra, lets say...200 lbs in his car? bah. I'm lost.
Sport compacts aren't meant for top speed, they're meant for autocrossing and in some cases like the WRX, straight line acceleration.
[QUOTE=95LT1]I messed with a WRX on the Interstate in my Maxima one day. I was alone and he had two passengers. From about 70-115 it didn't impress me We never ran from any slower than 70 so I didn't get to witness the all mighty AWD launch. If thats all they have then my TA would own it as well as most of your new stangs should.[/QUOTE]
So he didn't impress you because he had an extra, lets say...200 lbs in his car? bah. I'm lost.
Sport compacts aren't meant for top speed, they're meant for autocrossing and in some cases like the WRX, straight line acceleration.
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It didn't impress me b/c he was racing a Maxima, a family sedan, a granny mobile, a 190hp car with an auto tranny and yet he still couldn't pull with a turbo and a ton more HP'er. Besides, I think the Maxima still weighs more than him with his 3 passengers.
190 hp vs 227. yeah that's a ton more hp. how do you know he was really opening it up? Coulda just been holding beside you to toy with you. But again, they aren't built for top end speed.
On another note, the WRX weighs in at just over 3000 lbs, I doubt the Maxima weighs much over that itself.
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[QUOTE=95LT1][QUOTE=own3dbyyou]
[QUOTE=95LT1]I messed with a WRX on the Interstate in my Maxima one day. I was alone and he had two passengers. From about 70-115 it didn't impress me We never ran from any slower than 70 so I didn't get to witness the all mighty AWD launch. If thats all they have then my TA would own it as well as most of your new stangs should.[/QUOTE]
So he didn't impress you because he had an extra, lets say...200 lbs in his car? bah. I'm lost.
I agree w/LT...
Those Maximas are heavy as hell... And it was an automatic right??
Sport compacts aren't meant for top speed, they're meant for autocrossing and in some cases like the WRX, straight line acceleration.
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It didn't impress me b/c he was racing a Maxima, a family sedan, a granny mobile, a 190hp car with an auto tranny and yet he still couldn't pull with a turbo and a ton more HP'er. Besides, I think the Maxima still weighs more than him with his 3 passengers.[/QUOTE]
My Maxima is a 1997. It has a hybrid intake and 2 3/4 exhaust. To be a family car, it would flat out move. I have no idea if he was opening it up, its not like racing a muscle car where you can actually hear it get twice as loud. We were both teens and we were both getting side by side, slowing down to 70 or so, then gunning it to excessive speeds so I imagine he was. I do believe he was purely stock though, well he didn't have a wing or a spud gun. My point being, his car is made for speed, mine for luxory and family. The WRX, as mighty as some may think, will not hold a candle to my TA or the new GT's.95LT137951.8704861111
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the 2003 cobra is like dead even with the sti in performance wize. I just received my hotrod magazine and they did a test against them both. the mustang is quicker but needs a couple mods like tires. the trap speed on the mustang was way higher though, so has a lot more potential with traction. The horse power to weight ratio on the mustang is still better though by quite a bit. they had the mustang at 13.30 and the sti at 13.29. Mustang launched practilly at idle and the sti at 6000 rpm's. On the highway i think the mustang would devistate the sti for sure.
The WRX WILL in fact hold a candle to the GTs. the new GT's run what? low 14s? Go figure so do the WRXs. Do some Vishnu uppipes and s**t and get rid of 2 of those three cats and a turbo upgrade and you're damn near 280 hp, and the WRX is lighter than the STi.
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it was in hotrod magazine that they ran it. Probably not the best drivers I guess. I know they are capable of alot more stock. But since they couldnt hook up with stock tires they only ran a 13.30. With like only 2000 they will be all over the 11's. There arent to many cars that you can do that with.
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If the SRT4 came in AWD, I'd buy it. But until then I'll stick to loving the WRX.
We never ran from any slower than 70 so I didn't get to witness the all mighty AWD launch. If thats all they have then my TA would own it as well as most of your new stangs should.
I'm lost.