I have someone local (possibly) that has a modded, bolt-on TBSS. They want to run. How well do you think I'd do against this car. I know stock they are rated around 0-60 in 5.6 give or take and run mid 13's. I've seen a few of them Supercharged they ran high 11's trapping around 113.
Basically, I got into a little tiff with some guys on a ls1 truck forum, and they think crapstangs are exactly that, crap. Slow, ugly and with only 2K in mods, they will beat stock S197 GT's. So, I figured I'd kind of put an end to it, and race a faster version of their LSX engine. What do you guys think?
okbfd
05-16-2008, 10:29 AM
Heavy SUV against your mods........go for it and make us proud......of course you never know what "modded" means [8D]
35thAnni99GT
05-16-2008, 10:30 AM
Bring a good set of tires?
Those things launch like nobody's business. One at my track 1.7'd with launch control on a set of Goodyear F1's
Grabber
05-16-2008, 10:57 AM
Hmm, I think basic bolt-ons and what not. But, even then, I still think they are high 12 SUV's at best. Even S/C'ed, it would be a very good match up, with the Edge still going to me. We'll see, thanks for the input guys.
C6 VETTE
05-16-2008, 12:24 PM
Hows your hooking abilities? If your getting 2.0 or better 60ft. I can't possibly see you losing....Unless his mods are suspention,H/C, NOS.......Just bolt-ons only, you'll clean his clock..
jakes4321
05-16-2008, 12:33 PM
My bolt-on tbss runs 12.6-12.7 at 105-106 with a 1.7 60'. Thebig brick doesnt mph very well but gets out of the hole great. When I was stock I ran some stock 197's and it was a drivers race I ran 13.79 STOCK.
What does your car run? The Mustang SHOULD EASILY out mph the tbss thats a no-brainer.
Not a Mustang basher!!!! I have had 3 of em and still have one. So please dont take it that way. Just trying to see where you stand with the Mustang.
JD1969
05-16-2008, 12:38 PM
If he has a stall and spray you might end up with your hands full man. Guys are in the 11's with a stall, bolt ons and spray oh and tires of course.
jakes4321
05-16-2008, 12:43 PM
Stall and tires is a must in these bricks or your not getting out of the 12's n/a. Well one went 12.9 without stall and tires but thats only one!
Grabber
05-16-2008, 12:48 PM
I have not run the car, but I am able to launch my car well. Similar stangs, just saying, not saying I can do it but, have trapped well over 110. A few on S197forum with similar #'s, ran mid 11's and trapped 120+ with 4.10's, standard Vortech kit, and a spydershaft.
Are you located in IL?
Also, C6Vette- my tires are YZ W Rated, and even launching at 4500 RPM, they will hook after a second of spinning.
cacimar
05-16-2008, 12:48 PM
ohhh sh!t, this is going to be a bad@ss race, you better represent Grabber
Grabber
05-16-2008, 12:50 PM
I'm going to try man. I hope we can get it on vid. Although, my vid camera sucks.......
jakes4321
05-16-2008, 12:59 PM
Southside Chicago here!
1990NOS!
05-16-2008, 01:11 PM
There was one of those TBSS's at our local track... yeah tuned, cam'd, intake, full exhaust... yeah he went 7.9... I was like (WTF)--- it was scary.
Grabber
05-16-2008, 01:15 PM
Was that in the 1/8? I hope so....
cacimar
05-16-2008, 01:20 PM
it had to be, hey grabber why u havent pullied that stang man
Grabber
05-16-2008, 01:26 PM
$$$
Not sure what I want to do with the stang yet. If I pulley it, I'll doa 13-14 PSI swap, with a conservative tune, and put down around 500 whp and about 430 wtq. We will see.
Certain places want over 500 bucks to do the swap and tune. Not too pricey, but, can't budget it yet.
67mustang302
05-16-2008, 01:29 PM
You do realise that even if you win they're prolly just gonna pull some bs like "Yeah but you have a Mustang and this thing is a brick."
jakes4321
05-16-2008, 01:34 PM
ORIGINAL: 67mustang302
You do realise that even if you win they're prolly just gonna pull some bs like "Yeah but you have a Mustang and this thing is a brick."
Probably not!!!
I am pretty sure right now that whoever set this race up was supposed to be grabber vs a friend of mine. **** for all I know it could be me, since my truck is the bolt-on one. We will get some races off make some vids and post win, lose or draw.
jmdgto
05-16-2008, 01:58 PM
you should win
jakes4321
05-16-2008, 02:17 PM
ORIGINAL: jmdgto
you should win
I have to agree, we have been talking in pm's back and forth and told him my bolt-on truck will most likely get SPANKED!!!!
JD1969
05-16-2008, 02:33 PM
SOme of you guys would be such easy pickings at a street race night at the track it's not even funny....
bluebeastsrt
05-16-2008, 02:43 PM
Mustang should have this one. Why dont you guys run at the track so you'll have some solid numbers to see how your driving is!
Grabber
05-16-2008, 02:49 PM
I want to man. 50 miles for the closest track, 4.40 a gallon of gas, not right now. I'd rather drive 20 miles, race a couple of times, and call it a day.
Besides, my car is not ready for the track......;)
cacimar
05-16-2008, 02:51 PM
sounds like excusess to me ;), moroso is an hour drive from my house and i got to tell you "it is worthy going".
Grabber
05-16-2008, 03:04 PM
Nah, I just don't like to drive far in the stang, call me lazy.
Off-Topic- Cacimar, or anyone in the FL area, intersted in free Disney World tickets? I have to. Been meaning to ask, expires December 08.
Back on topic- I want to go to the track when I feel my car is track worthy. Right now with the 20's, that will hurt me, epescially since I do not have DR's. Also, I want to do UCA's and LCA"s with a 3200 stall and 18's. We will see. I do want to go, I know it is a blast to fly down the 1320.
cacimar
05-16-2008, 03:09 PM
give me a good price and i shall take them away from ya....Note that florida residents gets them for 60 bucsk each....
Grabber
05-16-2008, 03:10 PM
How does Free sound?:D Maybe?
cacimar
05-16-2008, 03:13 PM
ill take them away from ya :D, why do u have them? were u in florida or thinking in coming to florida ?
jakes4321
05-16-2008, 03:16 PM
We are actually going to the track tonite.....Grabber just couldnt make it
I would rather do this at the track, but if not we got some back roads we could get down on!
Grabber
05-16-2008, 03:23 PM
That sounds good to me.
Through my work(Grainger), each year they pay for the entire sales force of 5,000 People to stay at Coronado Springs Resort, for the annual kick off, and this year they rented out the entire Magic Kingdom for free. Free food, beer, games, rides all night etc. They gave me a couple extra tickets. I have no use for them, since I will not make it back to FL.
Jake- It looks like rain later in the PM's tonight. I would rather not drive in it if I can avoid it. But, Sunday morning looks good, so maybe we can do something.
jakes4321
05-16-2008, 04:03 PM
Tonite in Morocco Indiana it looks like it will be clear, but I understand what your saying about rain. I am taking my f-body today and actually not racing we are working out the bugs in the other tbss that I believe was most likely the race that guy was trying to setup with you.
Sunday so far looks to be good we will talk then and set something up.
Grabber
05-16-2008, 04:07 PM
What does your friend run? Just curious. That thing should be bad a$$. Talk to you soon man.
jakes4321
05-18-2008, 10:21 AM
It is looking to be a nice day!! Maybe you can bring some more stangs with you.
I will call you in a bit and see if we can set something up
SINISTER
05-18-2008, 11:27 AM
ORIGINAL: cacimar
ill take them away from ya :D, why do u have them? were u in florida or thinking in coming to florida?
[>:] I was too late.
Cacimar, I agree that the drive to Moroso (hour and a half for me) is always worth it. It is the drive back that kind of sucks.
cacimar
05-18-2008, 11:31 AM
^^^agreed :D, driving back sucks especially if that night u did not do to well [:@]. AndYes you are late i got them for freee thanks to our Stang Pal Grabber :)
Grabber
05-18-2008, 08:28 PM
Unless you two guys want to make the arrangement of meeting up and going together, how about that!!!;)
cacimar
05-18-2008, 08:50 PM
^^^^ i rather bring achickso i can screw her :D
Grabber
05-18-2008, 10:35 PM
Good idea...Sorry Sinister. Next year, I'll make sure I get a ton of them, and hand them out for you FL guys!!!!!
PS- you could dress up like a chick for Cacimar...:D:D:D
Mishri
05-18-2008, 11:48 PM
wow.. i didn't even know about those trail blazer SS's.. pretty nice numbers for the price.. for 6k more I could of had an SUV that is aslightly slower and worse gas mileage hehe... Oh well.. guess ill just have to spend that extra 6k on s/c, spydershaft, LCAs and rubber and blow them away :D
SINISTER
05-19-2008, 05:33 PM
ORIGINAL: Grabber
Good idea...Sorry Sinister. Next year, I'll make sure I get a ton of them, and hand them out for you FL guys!!!!!
I'm going to hold you to that. . . . [8D]
PS- you could dress up like a chick for Cacimar...:D:D:D
Think I'm going to pass on that one. [:'(]
Grabber
05-19-2008, 08:55 PM
LOL, Good, I will follow through(Provided I am still with Grainger)
jakes4321
05-20-2008, 01:37 PM
ORIGINAL: Mishri
wow.. i didn't even know about those trail blazer SS's.. pretty nice numbers for the price.. for 6k more I could of had an SUV that is aslightly slower and worse gas mileage hehe... Oh well.. guess ill just have to spend that extra 6k on s/c, spydershaft, LCAs and rubber and blow them away :D
$26,000 for mine with about $2800 in mods (that incluses a built trans and converter) So I am 28,000 so far
12.6's consitant at 106 Not bad for 4700#'s
Grabber
05-20-2008, 01:41 PM
That is damn good for something that heavy.[sm=icon_cheers.gif]
jakes4321
05-20-2008, 01:45 PM
Yeah it isnt bad butit helps I can 60' a 1.7.Either way I am sure yourMustang will rape my truck unless you spin and gotta play catch up.
Now thetruck thatthey set you up with orginally I think will be a close race.
Grabber
05-20-2008, 02:21 PM
If he traps over 113 then it will be drivers race. Off the line, I will probably hook, so we'll see.
GTWhat?
05-20-2008, 08:57 PM
ORIGINAL: Grabber
I want to man. 50 miles for the closest track, 4.40 a gallon of gas, not right now. I'd rather drive 20 miles, race a couple of times, and call it a day.
Besides, my car is not ready for the track......;)
Its my truck you are going to race, whens this going down?
99GTvert
05-20-2008, 09:01 PM
ORIGINAL: GTWhat?
ORIGINAL: Grabber
I want to man. 50 miles for the closest track, 4.40 a gallon of gas, not right now. I'd rather drive 20 miles, race a couple of times, and call it a day.
Besides, my car is not ready for the track......;)
Its my truck you are going to race, whens this going down?
I think hejust wants get this race going!! Since we arent racing for any money is there anyway to get you (grabber) to go to track?? 41 has street car chaos friday.
It would just suck to get pinched and nothing is on the table.
Grabber
05-20-2008, 09:38 PM
Well, I don't race for money, so if that is what your Buddy is interested in, then I'm out. He will have the edge at the track, which I don't mind going to. Street Tires VS. DR's, that's cool.
But, come on now, some guys would think his ID "GTWhat" is a little childish. And to think......[>:]
GTWhat?
05-20-2008, 09:43 PM
ORIGINAL: Grabber
Well, I don't race for money, so if that is what your Buddy is interested in, then I'm out. He will have the edge at the track, which I don't mind going to. Street Tires VS. DR's, that's cool.
But, come on now, some guys would think his ID "GTWhat" is a little childish. And to think......[>:]
Not looking to go for money, and i dont care if we go on the street or the track, ill try you either way, street tires or drag radials, i really dont care. I just want to run already! When?
As for the name, its all in good fun. I just like to stir things up. There are tons of Gts that will blow my doors off!
Grabber
05-20-2008, 09:49 PM
That's good to hear. I just thought I'd comment. I'm sure you are eager to race. You seem confident, I respect that.
Jake- Friday night is no good. I'm going to be getting my car ready for the Meet and Greet Saturday. After 9Pm Sat. night would be fine with me. Let me know what you think.
jakes4321
05-20-2008, 09:54 PM
Cops..................lol I just fell off my chair
Far from it
Street to street tire......oh this is going to be good!!!
GTWhat?
05-20-2008, 09:55 PM
ORIGINAL: Grabber
That's good to hear. I just thought I'd comment. I'm sure you are eager to race. You seem confident, I respect that.
Jake- Friday night is no good. I'm going to be getting my car ready for the Meet and Greet Saturday. After 9Pm Sat. night would be fine with me. Let me know what you think.
PS- You guys are not cops right? LOL:D
LOL, nope, not cops. Not that confident, i just dont care if i win or lose (its for fun!) i just want to see what your car can do. I really have nothing to lose, If you win ill just pull the old "so what, you beat an suv with a sports car" LOL J/K ...Im just excited to race
And before anyone asks, NO IM NOT SPRAYING! The Cobra let off HARD!
jakes4321
05-20-2008, 10:02 PM
Not workie!
Grabber
05-20-2008, 10:06 PM
Damn....
That's cool, I was just messing with ya. SUV or not, you've got a few G's wrapped in that SUV, so, it is pretty fair if ya ask me.:D I couldn't agree with ya more. It is fun, whether or not ya win or lose. So, is Saturday good? ;)
Also, you guys are welcome to come to the Meet and Greet, I sent Jake the info. I'm off for tonight guys, gotta be up in 6 hours.... [&o]
jakes4321
05-20-2008, 10:10 PM
SLOW!!!!!
JD1969
05-20-2008, 10:39 PM
Grabber, what and where is this meet/greet you speak of? BTW let me know when and where this is going to be at, if I can get free I will take out the car and meet up.
GTWhat?
05-20-2008, 10:46 PM
ORIGINAL: Grabber
Damn....
That's cool, I was just messing with ya. SUV or not, you've got a few G's wrapped in that SUV, so, it is pretty fair if ya ask me.:D I couldn't agree with ya more. It is fun, whether or not ya win or lose. So, is Saturday good? ;)
Also, you guys are welcome to come to the Meet and Greet, I sent Jake the info. I'm off for tonight guys, gotta be up in 6 hours.... [&o]
Sat. is fine with me!
JD1969
05-20-2008, 10:50 PM
GTWhat, when were you at 41? I remember a maroon TBSS there about a month ago (April 15 ish??), it got loose on the big end.
Mishri
05-20-2008, 11:05 PM
ORIGINAL: jakes4321
ORIGINAL: Mishri
wow.. i didn't even know about those trail blazer SS's.. pretty nice numbers for the price.. for 6k more I could of had an SUV that is aslightly slower and worse gas mileage hehe... Oh well.. guess ill just have to spend that extra 6k on s/c, spydershaft, LCAs and rubber and blow them away :D
$26,000 for mine with about $2800 in mods (that incluses a built trans and converter) So I am 28,000 so far
12.6's consitant at 106 Not bad for 4700#'s
Sorry.. My point was just that I was really impressed with the low cost of the vehicle and the performance figures for an SUV.. looks like a bargain... and yes.. once I S/C i'm sure I wont be able to find any TBSS around here able to keep up but.. very nice for something I could take out to the woods and go camping in :D
jakes4321
05-20-2008, 11:20 PM
Was the maroon SS on slicks?? and racing no clock?
It wasnt gtwhat but another Chicago SS thats HAULIN ASS!!
Grabber
05-21-2008, 08:50 AM
Looks like it's running pretty well.
JD- Here is the link to the meet and greet. They are estimating 200+ mustangs and what not.
This race is going down Sat. Night. If you want to meet up, that would be awesome. You have my cell, and I have yours. So, let me know man. I'm also trying to get Erik to come as well, but he is swamped with work. He may make an entrance for a couple of hours. There is another event, with the ChicagoSVT guys coming up soon, which should be good.
June 1st is the date. Sunday. Anyone else that wants to Join in the Chi-town area you know of, they are more then welcome.
JD1969
05-21-2008, 11:44 AM
ORIGINAL: jakes4321
Was the maroon SS on slicks?? and racing no clock?
It wasnt gtwhat but another Chicago SS thats HAULIN ASS!!
ORIGINAL: jakes4321
Was the maroon SS on slicks?? and racing no clock?
It wasnt gtwhat but another Chicago SS thats HAULIN ASS!!
Yea I just checked out GTwhats photo page and it's mot the same guy. The dude who was running the TB I was thinking of is a black dude and it was indeed HAULIN.
JD1969
05-21-2008, 11:49 AM
ORIGINAL: Grabber
Looks like it's running pretty well.
JD- Here is the link to the meet and greet. They are estimating 200+ mustangs and what not.
This race is going down Sat. Night. If you want to meet up, that would be awesome. You have my cell, and I have yours. So, let me know man. I'm also trying to get Erik to come as well, but he is swamped with work. He may make an entrance for a couple of hours. There is another event, with the ChicagoSVT guys coming up soon, which should be good.
June 1st is the date. Sunday. Anyone else that wants to Join in the Chi-town area you know of, they are more then welcome.
hmmm how welcome would I be? All those Stangs and me, probably the lne F body.
Grabber
05-21-2008, 11:51 AM
You'd be my guest. They would not care. The Meet this Saturday that is. The Chicagosvt, there are quite a few F-bods going. So, you should be welcome. But, this sat. for sure, since most of those guys know me. It's cool.
GTWhat?
05-21-2008, 12:39 PM
ORIGINAL: JD1969
GTWhat, when were you at 41? I remember a maroon TBSS there about a month ago (April 15 ish??), it got loose on the big end.
NO! thats on lots of spray!
ORIGINAL: Mishri
ORIGINAL: jakes4321
ORIGINAL: Mishri
wow.. i didn't even know about those trail blazer SS's.. pretty nice numbers for the price.. for 6k more I could of had an SUV that is aslightly slower and worse gas mileage hehe... Oh well.. guess ill just have to spend that extra 6k on s/c, spydershaft, LCAs and rubber and blow them away :D
$26,000 for mine with about $2800 in mods (that incluses a built trans and converter) So I am 28,000 so far
12.6's consitant at 106 Not bad for 4700#'s
Sorry.. My point was just that I was really impressed with the low cost of the vehicle and the performance figures for an SUV.. looks like a bargain... and yes.. once I S/C i'm sure I wont be able to find any TBSS around here able to keep up but.. very nice for something I could take out to the woods and go camping in :D
LOL, Call me when your S/C and we'll try it
ORIGINAL: JD1969
ORIGINAL: jakes4321
Was the maroon SS on slicks?? and racing no clock?
It wasnt gtwhat but another Chicago SS thats HAULIN ASS!!
ORIGINAL: jakes4321
Was the maroon SS on slicks?? and racing no clock?
It wasnt gtwhat but another Chicago SS thats HAULIN ASS!!
Yea I just checked out GTwhats photo page and it's mot the same guy. The dude who was running the TB I was thinking of is a black dude and it was indeed HAULIN.
Ya, that maroon one ripped me a new a few nights ago! Thing flies
Anyone know whos svt that is that i raced in that video? It said ChicagoSVT.com on the side windows. It was at US41
Grabber
05-21-2008, 01:05 PM
Not quite sure, but I can probably find out.
Interested in going to the meet this Saturday?
jakes4321
05-21-2008, 05:15 PM
Looks like we are heading up there after gtwhat gets off of work.
Grabber
05-22-2008, 07:29 AM
Nice!!!! Some of the other guys and I are meeting up at the streets, and are going to cruise down there around 11 AM or so. Hoep to see ya guys there.
JD1969
05-22-2008, 10:09 AM
Hmmm I might not make it. My wife went into false labor yesterday. We got sent home late last night but she is not supposed to be doing anything for a few days. That means that I have to chase my daughter around, but maybe I can get the car seat in the SS and breing her along.
JD1969
05-22-2008, 10:10 AM
Hmmm I might not make it. My wife went into false labor yesterday. We got sent home late last night but she is not supposed to be doing anything for a few days. That means that I have to chase my daughter around, but maybe I can get the car seat in the SS and breing her along.
Grabber
05-22-2008, 11:34 AM
Double post Jon.;)
That's cool. no big deal. Good luck with the falso labor. I hope everything works out for ya. Give me a call if you are coming, I won't be staying all day, but, probably a good while.