RE: Not techincal... and I don't care.
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 10:24:03 AM
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DarkFireGT
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My problem is not necessarily the moderation, though some mods seem quick on the trigger. My problem is this being a tech forum. There's separate tech areas for V6 and V8, and those have sub-forums for more specific tech. To me, this should be just plain S197 or S197 Talk. This should be the home for S197's, where they can post S197 related topics, tech or not. It just doesn't make sense to only post technical threads in here, when there are already specific and dedicated tech sections for everything.
I posted this as a post instead of a PM, because i wanted others opinions on the matter, and I think this should be a matter of open discussion, not one mod's opinion. While we members do not own the board, the board is here for us. So we should be happy with it, right? This is a large community here. I think there's enough S197 owners to have our own talk section.
And I definitely agree with the above statements. I'm also a photography buff, and I receive very few comments on my photos in the photo section, but plenty in the S197 section. I have a feeling only 10-20% of members visit the photo section with any frequency, but probably 80-90% will open a photo post in this section. And a lot of Fox body owners have no respect for S197's or their owners, plain and simple. I find some Sn95 owners that way as well, but not as many.
I'll stifle if you can tell me why we need a S197 tech section, when we have S197 V6 tech and S197 V8 tech sub-forums already, with their own subforums. Let's unite the community, not alienate them. As long as it's S197 related, I don't see the problem.
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 10:26:52 AM
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Derf00
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ORIGINAL: DarkFireGT
Instead of answering my post in an earlier post, the entire thread was deleted. So I'll pose my question here.
Why do non-technical threads keep getting moved or deleted? It seems we have a few over-zealous mods here. This section is dedicated to the S197 community. I love Mustangs, but as you can tell, I'm a S197 nut. And for that, I generally only come to the S197 section. I don't browse the Photo section or OT section much, because I usually want to see S197 related things. 80% of threads in the S197 section are not technical, but remain. Yet quite a few threads get moved and deleted arbitrarily, because someone is in a bad mood and feels like exercising their E-Peen. If it's related to S197s, it should be left in the S197 area if that's where the original poster intended it to be. We have separate S197 V6 and V8 technical forums. If I want to post pictures of my S197's in this section, that's where they should say. If someone wants to talk about what they like about their S197, it should stay here. I'm the mod of another prominent board of the Mustang community, and we would never do that. It's really making me consider leaving the site. There's tons of people on here, which I really like. But when I make a post, or am trying to watch a thread, it's very annoying to come back and find it missing. And when ever any opposition to the moderation on the board comes up, the thread suddenly disappears without a trace... as this one most likely will.
This is my plea to the mods. Leave S197 related threads where the original poster intended them, so long as they comply with the MF TOS. This is the main section, and the place where people come for S197 related talk and tech. Don't take the talk out.
This subforum is under a TECH main forum.
Non-tech threads belong in Off Topic or some other more appropriate subforum.
I fail to see how yapping about a girl, asking about a sticker for your car, talking about your neighbors ricer, asking political questions, complaining about gas prices, what stereo to install, what body kit looks good, or any other NON-TECH thread is relevant to S197 TECH discussions. I'm not pointing you out but those are just some of the threads I've seen in here and more popping up every day.
There are more appropriate subforums each of those topics could be directed to. You will rarely see the classic section or the foxbody section get clogged with just meaningless dribble. Sn-95 used to be pretty well arranged, it's now getting like the S197 section. Total chaos to where the search function if useless because nothing is where it should be.
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 10:32:24 AM
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Derf00
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ORIGINAL: DarkFireGT
My problem is not necessarily the moderation, though some mods seem quick on the trigger. My problem is this being a tech forum. There's separate tech areas for V6 and V8, and those have sub-forums for more specific tech. To me, this should be just plain S197 or S197 Talk. This should be the home for S197's, where they can post S197 related topics, tech or not. It just doesn't make sense to only post technical threads in here, when there are already specific and dedicated tech sections for everything.
I posted this as a post instead of a PM, because i wanted others opinions on the matter, and I think this should be a matter of open discussion, not one mod's opinion. While we members do not own the board, the board is here for us. So we should be happy with it, right? This is a large community here. I think there's enough S197 owners to have our own talk section.
And I definitely agree with the above statements. I'm also a photography buff, and I receive very few comments on my photos in the photo section, but plenty in the S197 section. I have a feeling only 10-20% of members visit the photo section with any frequency, but probably 80-90% will open a photo post in this section. And a lot of Fox body owners have no respect for S197's or their owners, plain and simple. I find some Sn95 owners that way as well, but not as many.
I'll stifle if you can tell me why we need a S197 tech section, when we have S197 V6 tech and S197 V8 tech sub-forums already, with their own subforums. Let's unite the community, not alienate them. As long as it's S197 related, I don't see the problem.
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 10:48:41 AM
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richmod
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ORIGINAL: DarkFireGT
My problem is not necessarily the moderation, though some mods seem quick on the trigger. My problem is this being a tech forum. There's separate tech areas for V6 and V8, and those have sub-forums for more specific tech. To me, this should be just plain S197 or S197 Talk. This should be the home for S197's, where they can post S197 related topics, tech or not. It just doesn't make sense to only post technical threads in here, when there are already specific and dedicated tech sections for everything.
I agree with this. There should be a S197 General Discussion forum. Ideally you wpuld have:
1. S197 Tech Discussion, with V6 and V8 subforums
2. S197 General Discussion, with possible photo subforum.
Ultimately it would be much better if the highest forum in the hierachy is the the specific type Mustang. As it it now, you have to scatter all over the boards for all the different s197 posts. If the hierarchy was:
2005-2008 Mustang
General
Tech
V6
V8
Photo
Insert other idea here
...then we could all go to one section for our S197 stuff. The other type stangs would have similar sections. Other sites do it this way and I believe it's a bit easier for users and moderators alike.
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 12:33:29 PM
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It is what it is. We have a free platform to discuss/view our vehicles, why can't everyone be happy with that?
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 2:02:14 PM
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pascal
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ORIGINAL: Joolander
ah cmon, you know im just joshin' 
but seriously, some people in there are just ravenous rainbow dinosaurs
99Vert has a point (often does)...
I guess what he's trying to say is: Not everybody is right all the time and not everybody is wrong all the time.
There is more threads being locked here than in OT I'm sure, so it's not a coincidence.
There are some cool cats over there and I enjoy some of the topics.
Good enough for me... The rest of you, GTFO .
Hey, siberian... I was willing to help with your sanding experience but couldn't find your thread .
Now I know what happened lol.
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 2:11:10 PM
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Joolander
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what i want to know is, why does the s197 section feel it needs to be treated differently than the rest of the forums?
none of the other sections get their own special discussion or photo areas
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 2:22:00 PM
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Boss919
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I think what everyone agrees about is if you want to talk S197 anything, its best to post it in the S197 section. Even if it is Off Topic or whatever. Atleast someone will respond. I hardly ever go to Off topic section and I also find the Photo Gallery hard to navigate. Just my .02
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 2:34:32 PM
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 2:36:17 PM
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TOMBSTANG
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ORIGINAL: Joolander
what i want to know is, why does the s197 section feel it needs to be treated differently than the rest of the forums?
none of the other sections get their own special discussion or photo areas
thesy all should have there own photo sections, organization is key.
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 2:46:29 PM
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kpaulhus
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WOW I cant believe I just read this whole thing....C'mon guys rules are rules and the Mods have a hard enough time as is regulating...but a little criticism never hurt n e one?
Thank you again to the mods for making a place like MF possible....there are some nights where I would be lost withouts all my, quote my Gf "weird online mustang ppl" lol
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 2:47:51 PM
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howarmat
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ORIGINAL: 99GTvert
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I can agree with the OP.. at least when we talk about our cars here there is a sense of maturity going into most posts. I absolutly hate when stuff gets moved to the OT section and gets over run by idiotic teenagers spewing nonsense. The attitude between this and the OT section is completely different.
Miranda is right about this. OT section attacks new female members like vultures.
That only happens with a handfull of members in Off Topic, not the entire section.
Good luck on getting your own picture section too...maybe you want your own section to talk about the weather?
I find it hilarious though when some of you keep posting OT/Streetstrip stuff in Tech sections, forgetting that when you make a thread that does nothing to talk about tech, you bump another thread that actually calls for help off the first page onto the second page....and for what?
Some of you can follow the rules. NICE!
Some of you can't even do that, and would rather just whine and bitch to get your own way because its way too hard to follow a few simple rules.
FYI, there is an ignore button (its titled as the Block button with a red hand) that you can click on to ignore any member you wish, so if you ever venture into Off Topic, you will not see the stereotyped "window licker's" posts. Off Topic has its members that are worthless, but it also has members that can contribute to a good discussion. If you would rather just focus on the worthless members as representatives of the entire section, you really should just keep your mind shut and GTFO.
You know what kills me is this guy is from OT.....and he made one of the best points on this thread. Its the way i look at it too.
We have a huge board here..we have TONS of s197 members too. That is a great thing too. With the huge membership numbers there are many many posts everyday.
if you go to bed then work the next day and then come back on the board at 7-8 pm the next day, i bet there are 5+ pages before you get back to the last thread you read the night before. And like 99GT points out, the poor guy that posted last night after he got off work at 1 am with a TECH question about brakes is burried by a bunch of threads talking about how they washed they car or how they had to pay $50 bucks for gas today....
Like i stated, i leave the pic threads for a while normally and then move them. And as joo pointed out, if you say something besides "hey i cleaned my car" then they serve a better purpose.
If you want to create post for people to look at you car, go to the "members rides" section and create a thread, then link it in your sig. People see you sig picture and say damn that is a sweet ride and can click the link to your own picture post and view all of the pics of your ride and mods you have done.
At this point we arent going to resection this s197 forum.....we are doing it to the classifieds as it is and it is too much effort really.
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 3:18:53 PM
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howarmat
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ORIGINAL: siberian.mist
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_4975081/tm.htm
shouldnt this be in the photo section? there are mods posting on it and its still there? atleast be consistant...
That thread was asking questions about the bumper and install of it amongst other things. It has technical merit in it for sure and there is no reason to move it.
Also i think joo apologized for moving the actual thread about the radiator cover....BUT as the rules state, DO NOT make more threads asking where it went if you think it was deleted. Most posts are not deleted just moved and you can still find them in your post history and continue to post on them.
And also like Joo stated, don't take your thread being moved personally. posts are moved all the time i sure as hell don't keep track of who wrote what and have no grudges against any of you. If your thread is moved them PM me, joolander or mygt500 and even professor wizard and we can tell you why it was moved and even get it moved back perhaps.
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RE: Not techincal... and I don't care. - 5/16/2008 3:22:20 PM
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howarmat
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hell no we dont get paid
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