Osama is probably in Iran or some neighboring country, are you suggesting we invade those to so we can ketch him?
It is very hard to ketch some people when they are a world away and live in smelly caves. We have caught/maimed/destroyed other hi ranking Al Qaeda officials, just not the poster child.
Bin Laden may not have been caught but he has been neutered as a threat.
I wonder where the war would be if half the country weren't calling for our surrender? Sedition in time of war should be prosecuted and prosecuted vigorously.
No argument about the borders. Build the wall and build it high & deep.
At war? WTF are you talking about? Who are we at war with? And who is calling for surrender? What I hear is Americans calling for an intelligent strategy and use of force. Your washing machine called; it wants its spin back.
And yes, AQ is getting stronger now than it has been for a number of years. The Director of National Intelligence just put out a big report saying that a few months ago, a year after an NIE report said that AQ was able again to strike the west (here is a link about it.) We have done a decent job of killing many important ones, but I couldn't give two ****s less about the AQiI folks; they are domestics, not international threads, and I don't want to spend one PENNY defending the Iraqis when that money could go to defending AMERICANS.
Things have not gone well with allies. We've done our best to allienate Musharaf by quietly backing Butho before she got herself blown up. Afghanistan is falling more and more back into taliban control. Southeast Asia has no love for us. And obviously most of Europe considers us more of a pain in the ass than a friend, when 8 years ago everyone was still basically on the U.S. dick. We DEFINATELY have taken many, many steps backwards in the world view, especially considering how pro-America the world was post-9/11. That good will could EASILY have been used more effectively.
I agree on the wall, for security and for prosperity. We cannot keep piling up debt for non-Americans; we owe them nothing. Kick them out and let them reform their own damn country.
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Mark my words. History will be kind to George W. Bush. His willingness to do battle with radical Islam, in spite of the howls from within our own country demanding we surrender, has saved countless lives of Americans and our allies and I trust that history will take note of that in time. He has had Al Qaeda on the run since 9/11. Hard to land a good punch when you are rocking on your heels. Al Qaeda has been ravaged and is a shell of its former self. They have been limited to hiding in caves and taking potshots where they can.
I still support President Bushs foreign policy. Domestically I wonder what in the hell his thought process is but I have no qualms with his foreign policy.
history has already recorded george w bush as the least favored president EVER...he has a less favorable rating than nixon....i'll be voting obama...
unless arnold swartzenegger somehow gets in at the last minute on an amendment
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got a source aboot GWBush being least favored?
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I'll be voting for obama. I could never vote for a clinton again and McCain will continue were bush leaves off. It looks like McCain is being set up to be crushed any way. The media will see to it.
The media will see to it that McCain is crushed, but the White House will atleast try and help him out. Just today McCain is saying that Bin Laden will be captured in his first term in office. So pretty much what they are trying to imply is that a republican will capture him, but a democrat won't. Just like the guy a month or two ago who said "Before the year is out we will have another terrorist attack on US soil". More than likely something is going to happen to try and get the American people to think that we need a republican in office to "protect us all"...
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i know he's not the most favored and not many people are on his side about **** (almost everyone has taken shots at him)....but nixon?
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Anyway, on topic; I'll vote Obama because I am SO sick of the Republicans, and also I think he DOES have some charisma, which is important in a figurehead position like president. I like McCain, but he is a bit old, and when you get old you get worse at things, and honestly between the two I prefer Obama.
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As of February 20, 2008, George W. Bush's approval rating had plummented to 19%. With the record low having previously been Herbert Hoover's 23% approval rating, George W. Bush now holds the record of the lowest approval rating ever recorded for a sitting U.S. President. Additionally, he also holds the record for highest disapproval rating, with a 77% disapproval rating[5] and the record for the highest disapproval rating ever recorded by Gallup Poll for any sitting president with 69% of those polls disapproving of the job Bush was doing as president and only 28% approving.[6] Gallup also concluded that Bush might be the most unpopular president in American history.[
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got a source aboot GWBush being least favored?
As of February 20, 2008, George W. Bush's approval rating had plummented to 19%. With the record low having previously been Herbert Hoover's 23% approval rating, George W. Bush now holds the record of the lowest approval rating ever recorded for a sitting U.S. President. Additionally, he also holds the record for highest disapproval rating, with a 77% disapproval rating[5] and the record for the highest disapproval rating ever recorded by Gallup Poll for any sitting president with 69% of those polls disapproving of the job Bush was doing as president and only 28% approving.[6] Gallup also concluded that Bush might be the most unpopular president in American history.[
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finally you've posted some sort of proof to backup your claim...!...? what site was that from?
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Will he be able to get Universal Healthcare in place? If he does, how much would he raise taxes, and how much would that hurt the paychecks for people in the medical field?
Bin Laden may not have been caught but he has been neutered as a threat.
I wonder where the war would be if half the country weren't calling for our surrender? Sedition in time of war should be prosecuted and prosecuted vigorously.
No argument about the borders. Build the wall and build it high & deep.
Essentially I think you do have the right idea for what we need to do within our own country, but we disagree on who should lead it. I have quarrels with Obama, but they peril in comparison to my quarrels with John McCain.
Things I disagree with Obama on 1) Giving Drivers licenses to illegals 2) And some of his energy policies.
I support the cap& trade system that he wants to impose and a windfall profits tax on the oil companies + the elimination of subsidies to the oil companies. However I do dissaprove of his approach to not using our own resources. I say we allow the taxes fall on the oil companies, but let them make up in being able to drill off shore and in Alaska. However I like the idea of using the taxes to help invest in an alternative energy infrastructure.
Now on to McCain. I dissaprove of his anti-gay marriage stance, pro-life, his tax cuts for the upper 2% of society, and his lack of universal healthcare. Also I think that I disagree most with what he thinks needs to be done with this war. I relate the Iraq war to our revolutionary war just we are the british and the Iraqis are the Revolutionaries. Even though they say they support us...there is no way we are EVER going to win complete control of Iraq.
We should have gone to afghanistan, finished it, and then moved on to Iraq if we were going to at all. However, Bush made a strategically poor decision and it is costing us dearly.
Good foreign policy? Are you serious? You mean ruining ties with allies, being in office where Al-qaeda has gotten bigger in size when he specifically has been "going after them." He's yet to catch Osama Bin laden, Yet to bring the war in Iraq to a close (which he said would be over quickly and cost 40billion dollars). And we still have people hopping over our borders which he said he would fix.
Sorry. Bush is by far the WORST president we have had in the history of the U.S. Worse then Hoover.
Let's see some of the "ruined" ties:
Australia, check. Brown in Britain, check. Sarkozi in France, check. Harper in Canada, check. Merkel in Germany, check. Berlusconi in Italy, check. Poland, check. Czechs, CHECK.
The democRATS idea of "outreach" to the world includes Clinton entertaining Arafat, Pelosi visiting Syria (she looks much better in a hijab,) Obama who wants a face to face with Ahmanutjob, and Jimmy Carter kissing all four cheeks of Hamas.
Maintaining the most basic of ties with our closest allies, and maintaining them in a way that they largely refuse to join us in what we bill as a "global war on terror," DESPITE their OWN problems with Islam, makes you wonder exactly how well we have maintained those ties.
And quite frankly I don't take the approval ratings of congress as meaning too much. First off, the Congress is in a position that it can't get much done, as it is very evenly split dem and rep (you do know how the system of checks and balances works, of course.) Second, there is a historical trend in that as the approval ratings of the "direction of the country" goes down, the approval ratings of congress goes down, regardless of what they are doing. Honestly, I didn't care about it much a few years ago, and it doesn't bother me much now; the approval of congress (or disapproval) is largely americans simply saying "I hate how government works" rather than a ruling on the actual policy of the aforementioned congress.
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Largely refusing to join in the war on terror? Come on Ashram. More **** is going on than you and I will ever know about. Most have not joined in Iraq but many, many nations have boots on the ground in Afghanistan so tell me how much we have ruined ties. Most of those countries don't have the ability, much less the will or the treasure to post troops in overseas combat roles but they have contributed mightily with intelligence and cooperation.
The Democrats have been the ones demanding a timetable for withdrawal, then demanding that Iraqi govt meet some contrived political schedule or else we withdraw our support, or saying that 'The war is lost' (Murtha) or that, 'We can't win' (Reid) etc. etc. ad nauseum. If that is not a call to surrender then what is?
Much of the "goodwill" towards the U.S.A. after 9/11 was before they realized how serious we were in confronting the Islamic threat that had been peppering the world with bombs for the previous 20 or so years, and they were ready to keep ducking their heads in the sand.
Spain almost immediately surrendered after joining the fight and they had a couple of train stations blown to smithereens by Al Qaeda as a 'thankyou'.
btw, Great post Tubra.
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