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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 7:44:18 PM   
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There are GT500's trying to be sold for 60k+, I will bet you money on that. I have seen numerous ones at dealerships going for that. I just checked the other day on autotrader and seen 5-6 USED GT500's dealers were trying to sell for basically 60k.


Did the autotrader and cars.com search, you are right. But I guarantee you that none of those will sell, anyone in their right mind would search around and buy one for no more than $50k. All we were trying to say is, the cheapest easy to find GT500's go for no more than $50k if your willing to look. While the challengers that are coming out aren't being sold for less than $60k with no options. Sorry for the giant rant, but that's all we're trying to get at. And the facts that were stated before, as right now for the money. The GT500 is:
-Faster
-Cheaper to make really fast
-Better handler
-Better warrantied
-Better MPG wise
-And has roots whine   


When the GT500's first came out they were probably going for around 65k, is that correct? I have heard people getting there SRT8's fully loaded for around 50kish on the internet, which yes is a markup, but for a limited run first year car thats actually pretty good.

I agree, it is the overall faster and better performance car, but since when can I not like another car because of that? I personally like the Challenger better, there is a Mustang going down the road every second, and I mean that with no disrespect. The Challenger just looks so different than anything else out right now, it looks very aggresive to me. I never once said that the SRT8 was faster, at least I don't think so. I simply stated my opinion and got idiots with the IQ of a grade schooler bashing me.

Me, I love both cars. I just simply have a thing for the Challenger, personal opinion. Why these retards feel the need to throw jabs at me on the internet about my opinion is beyond me, possibly because half of them have no other life than to sit here and talk about there cars rather than drive them.


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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 7:46:38 PM   
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So when are you picking up that new Challenger?

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 7:47:00 PM   
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I actually prefer the SRT8, looks better and is much cheaper. (Ford dealerships have the GT500's going for 60k or more, or at least every one I have seen). The Chally is just looks so badass, and the fact it is NA makes it even better in my opinion.


lol, the first person to pick the challeger just happens to own a charger.

any who, good luck getting a challenger without a 10k+ mark up in the next year.



lol +2.


I don't see anything wrong with that, do you? It's personal opinion, I prefer the look of it. Thats like me saying "LOL, PERSON THAT OWNS THE MUSTANG LIKES THE COBRA BETTER. LOL HOW STUPID !!!"



There is nothing wrong with it. I wouldn't buy either one... Especially since the CTSV is going to rape both of them...with better interior to boot.

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 7:50:30 PM   
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OK, I was just pointing out that you said you'd prefer an SRT-8 challenger over the GT500 from a costs stand point which makes no sense at this given point in time from an economic stand point and a few other stand points. Looks is all based on opinion, but yes the challenger will definitely stand out a lot more than the gt500 due to the overpopulating of the mustangs in the world

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 7:50:30 PM   
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I actually prefer the SRT8, looks better and is much cheaper. (Ford dealerships have the GT500's going for 60k or more, or at least every one I have seen). The Chally is just looks so badass, and the fact it is NA makes it even better in my opinion.


lol, the first person to pick the challeger just happens to own a charger.

any who, good luck getting a challenger without a 10k+ mark up in the next year.



lol +2.


I don't see anything wrong with that, do you? It's personal opinion, I prefer the look of it. Thats like me saying "LOL, PERSON THAT OWNS THE MUSTANG LIKES THE COBRA BETTER. LOL HOW STUPID !!!"



There is nothing wrong with it. I wouldn't buy either one... Especially since the CTSV is going to rape both of them...with better interior to boot.


Finally someone that can see there are other cars on planet earth besides the Mustang. Yeah the new CTSV's are beastly but are probably going to be way to expensive for most of us, dad might get one I really don't know..


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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 7:51:32 PM   
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I actually prefer the SRT8, looks better and is much cheaper. (Ford dealerships have the GT500's going for 60k or more, or at least every one I have seen). The Chally is just looks so badass, and the fact it is NA makes it even better in my opinion.


lol, the first person to pick the challeger just happens to own a charger.

any who, good luck getting a challenger without a 10k+ mark up in the next year.



Sorta like the people favoring the GT500 owning mustangs?





Or like the people picking the mustang on the mustang forum?





Maybe we should all hide our true feelings and pick the Stang no matter what the opposition...after all we are free to be oblivious since we are on a Stang forum

Basically there is nothing wrong with picking the Stang in here..but calling someone out because he favors the challenger over the Gt500? Come on. Get real

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 7:53:10 PM   
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I actually prefer the SRT8, looks better and is much cheaper. (Ford dealerships have the GT500's going for 60k or more, or at least every one I have seen). The Chally is just looks so badass, and the fact it is NA makes it even better in my opinion.


lol, the first person to pick the challeger just happens to own a charger.

any who, good luck getting a challenger without a 10k+ mark up in the next year.



Sorta like the people favoring the GT500 owning mustangs?





Or like the people picking the mustang on the mustang forum?





Maybe we should all hide our true feelings and pick the Stang no matter what the opposition...after all we are free to be oblivious since we are on a Stang forum

Basically there nothing wrong, about picking the Stang here..but calling someone out because he favors the challenger over the Gt500? Come on. Get real


GT500 or Bugatti Veyron?


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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 7:53:38 PM   
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The CTS-V, LOL. The 09 cts-v is supposed to have about a $60k base price with no options or mark-ups, your getting close to C6 Z territory there

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 7:55:23 PM   
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The CTS-V, LOL. The 09 cts-v is supposed to have about a $60k base price with no options or mark-ups, your getting close to C6 Z territory there


No options on a CTSV will be far more luxurious than most American cars will touch. Plus a 550hp motor isn't a bad place to start.

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:04:30 PM   
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One of my customers offered to sell me this today.  He is trading up to an F430.  You had to see the interioir of this car to truly appreciate it.





It sounded awesome when he started it up.  Yeah, my Z is faster, but whatever.  This was a thing of beauty.  It's an '06.  I think he said he paid $125k for it.

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:10:54 PM   
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No thanks. Definitely a lot of better cars going for $125K i

But I can imagine it's pretty nice inside..

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:13:39 PM   
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No thanks. Definitely a lot of better cars going for $125K i

But I can imagine it's pretty nice inside..


Can you name some better luxury sports cars at that price for us?

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:14:06 PM   
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I recently bought my GT500 for MSRP.They are readily available in my area.The Challenger is a good looking car,I drove a 73' 340 in Highschool,So I have some history with old Mopars.They didn't build a better car though.

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:18:36 PM   
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I throw price out the window when it comes to these cars. 

I like the new M5 quite a bit too, but I think the Masserati looks better.

Complete highjack now.  I want one of these:




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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:23:40 PM   
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No thanks. Definitely a lot of better cars going for $125K i

But I can imagine it's pretty nice inside..


Can you name some better luxury sports cars at that price for us?


I didn't say better luxury sports cars, I said better cars.

In my opinion, the M6, AMG Mercedes and 911 turbo would have a spot in my garage before a Masserati would.

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:34:50 PM   
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No thanks. Definitely a lot of better cars going for $125K i

But I can imagine it's pretty nice inside..


Can you name some better luxury sports cars at that price for us?


I didn't say better luxury sports cars, I said better cars.

In my opinion, the M6, AMG Mercedes and 911 turbo would have a spot in my garage before a Masserati would.


Me too, but that's what I was trying to prove. The maserati is a great car for what it is at that price range. But like most people on this site, we're more into speed above beautiful/insanely comfortable interior with lots of features.

And that Ferrari is insane. Similar to a vette, but sexier I must say

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:38:05 PM   
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Why does everyone bash a solid rear. That bugs the crap out of me. Solid rears with a good 3 link(the new S197s) can handle quite well and provide a lot of forward bite. The S197's in Grand Am racing have proven that, being faster around a road course than most of their competition(a lot of Porsches). I've heard it refered to as cave man suspension, or horse cairrage suspension. So what, the wheel is a cave man invention but we still use that. But it goes right to what you guys are saying, they're like "Oh, well this car has a solid rear and we don't like the interior, so car X that performs worse is a better performance car." It's just like all the Hemi nutswingers, they see a certain thing and automatically think good or ill. Hemi=good and solid rear=bad seem to be very common, despite the fact that modern non hemi chambers perform equally as well(without even getting back to the issue that Chrysler's Hemi isn't a real hemi chamber) or solid rear setups can cut corners and provide good traction. People look too much at names/numbers/things and not enough at results


I read a few years ago that some peeps betched about the fact that the new stangs didnt have independent rears. Ford engineers said they chose to keep the solid rear because its cheaper and lighter.

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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:45:11 PM   
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here you go.. i'll be mustang owner doing the dreaded... i think it was edmonds or motortrend that did a shelby GT vs STI ('08 I believe) both MSRP at like 39k.. (maybe shelby GT is 1 or 2k less)  anyway.. they said STI was better and at that price, I'd have to agree.. If I could only pick between those 2 cars I would go with the STI even though it is way uglier.. on the other hand.. I live in the real world where I can get STI performance (-awd handling) for 15,000 less... so.. I go with GT..

as far as Challenger being much cheaper than a GT500.. no.. 5,000 less once it hits that point its getting in the 40k+ range 5,000 isn't as big of a difference as it is in the 20k range.  At the Ford dealership here they are selling GT500s at MSRP.. and in Montana we don't get too many GT500s in.. the sell as fast as they come in so if right now you go see one sitting in a lot and you tell them you'll give them MSRP for it I'll bet you they would sell it to you.. and I'm gonna ignore that first year challenger mark up because we all know that will go away soon enough..

and if someone is really getting an 08' challenger for 50k on the internet and its not a scam I'll be surprised.. ofcourse they are still paying more than a GT500 for it.. and it is a very unique looking car.. except when you see a 1970 challenger and people wont be able to tell the difference between the 2


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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:49:18 PM   
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here you go.. i'll be mustang owner doing the dreaded... i think it was edmonds or motortrend that did a shelby GT vs STI ('08 I believe) both MSRP at like 39k.. (maybe shelby GT is 1 or 2k less)  anyway.. they said STI was better and at that price, I'd have to agree.. If I could only pick between those 2 cars I would go with the STI even though it is way uglier.. on the other hand.. I live in the real world where I can get STI performance (-awd handling) for 15,000 less... so.. I go with GT..

as far as Challenger being much cheaper than a GT500.. no.. 5,000 less once it hits that point its getting in the 40k+ range 5,000 isn't as big of a difference as it is in the 20k range.  At the Ford dealership here they are selling GT500s at MSRP.. and in Montana we don't get too many GT500s in.. the sell as fast as they come in so if right now you go see one sitting in a lot and you tell them you'll give them MSRP for it I'll bet you they would sell it to you.. and I'm gonna ignore that first year challenger mark up because we all know that will go away soon enough..

and if someone is really getting an 08' challenger for 50k on the internet and its not a scam I'll be surprised.. ofcourse they are still paying more than a GT500 for it.. and it is a very unique looking car.. except when you see a 1970 challenger and people wont be able to tell the difference between the 2



I have yet to see a 1970 Challenger going through town anywhere, and probably won't anytime soon. How many do you see daily? I hope that wink means your kidding..lol.


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RE: GT500 vs Challenger SRT8 - 5/14/2008 8:53:49 PM   
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yes.. it does... 

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