Good Coil-Over KIT?

kn0x` · 05-13-2008, 10:32 PM

http://stangsuspension.com/store/com...idproduct=1424

H&R seems reliable and durable...is this good rather than going with the Eibach Pro-Kit and probably different shocks and struts but not as much as the Tokico Adjustables.

The Steeda Coil-Over Kit with the springs on stangsuspension is $1800 ummm. Too much.

Will this give me A LOT better handling around corners and curves. I like going fast

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Sam Strano · 05-21-2008, 07:25 PM

I'd like the opprotunity to help you out here. I carry H&R (though not on my website), but also KW, Eibachcoil-overs, as well as Tokico and Koni shocks and an assortment of "regular" lowering springs.

The RSS's from H&R are very, very stiffly sprung. Stock GT springs (not sure about V-6 springs) are about 154 lbs/in front, 131 or so rear. The springs on a Shelby GT, the FR3 springs are about 260/200. The springs used on the RSS are 630/515.... Way, WAY too stiff for anybody, and much stiffer than what I'd recommend or use onanycar I'd want to drive even if was only a track car (and yours clearly isn't).

I'd sooner recommend the KW Variant 1's, or the standard H&R'sover the H&R RSS's. The price is similar on the KW's to the RSS's, I sell them for $1390 a set, but the spring rates are much more liveable. 400 lb/in in front. The springs in coil-overs need to be stiffer for those that want to slam the cars, otherwise softer is better. The standard H&R's don't give you any tangible information. BTW, KW Variant 3's are standard on the new Dodge Viper ACR.... there are also Variant 3's for the Mustang as well, which are double adjustable dampers on top of the coil-overs.

Most folks don't need coil-overs though. Theycan be useful, but in realitywhat really makes cars work are agood set of springs,and reallygood shocks. I'd much soonerhave aset of Koni's and lowering springs than coil-overs I can't adjust. What's more is I can putyou on a set of Koni's and anynumber of springs for even less money than thecoil-overs... generally less than $1000 in total to the door. No, you wouldn't haveheight adjustment, butwhat most don't know is that it's not a 5minute job to adjust the height anyway, and unless you get up around $2000 you won't have a coil-over kit with adjustable damping which is much more important as far as I'm concerned.

kn0x` · 05-22-2008, 07:54 PM

So if I go with the Eibach Pro kit, what shocks and struts would u recommend?

Sam Strano · 05-22-2008, 08:06 PM

I strongly feel that Koni's are the best dampers around for these, and they are what I run on my GT, and the Shelby GT that I autocross. As a second choice, I'd say Tokico D-specs. They do cost less than the Koni's and work darn well. They adjust damping differently and I feel the Koni's give you more what we want (rebound damping) without what I often don't want (more compression damping) where the D-specs give you both together. The result is the D-specs ride more firmly for the same amount of control, they can ride softer on stock spring, but you need good damping to deal with higher rate/shorter travel springs, so turning them too soft will actually hurt you, not help.

Frankly, beyond those two I wouldn't bother with anything else. There are other shocks, but paying $300 for something that's a little better when you could get a lot better doesn't make sense to me. In fact, I'd rather drive a car on stock springs and Koni's (and in fact I do, everyday) before a car on lowering springs and something like a non-adjustable Tokico.

kn0x` · 05-22-2008, 09:10 PM

Nice, thanks Strano!

kn0x` · 05-22-2008, 09:12 PM

Actually, another question: How hard is it to adjust the D-Specs. I'm considering those, but I don't understand how to get a great adjusted setup. Like I said, I like taking corners fast...or "hard" so I want them stiff but not too stiff to where the ride comfort stinks.