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I'm such a bad cousin - 5/13/2008 7:30:01 PM   
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I made my little cousins parents buy him a 91 2.3 mustang God I'm such a bad cousin I should drop by and see it this monday since I promissed I'd take him for a ride in my stang since it will be done I'll get pictures so stay calm guys


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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/13/2008 7:55:52 PM   
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well hopefully you pounded in them to get a 5spd....right?

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/13/2008 8:06:26 PM   
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They better have I'm getting tired of driving auto's (all but 2 of my buddy's drive auto's)

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/13/2008 8:10:40 PM   
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I meant because the crappy A4LD that they will have to dump a ton of money into to fix.

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/13/2008 8:16:40 PM   
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If he dose ahve an A4LD & it takes a dump I''ll buy him a T5 and shove it into his car

I've tracked down the only 2 1991 Mustang 2.3's for sale and they are both auto's
http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-under-5K-1991-Ford-Mustang-LX-W0QQAdIdZ48241759
http://www.usedregina.com/classified-ad/5533772


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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/13/2008 9:44:13 PM   
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Sorry to jack for a sec, but is it really that easy to put a T5 in? I thought it was supposed to be a pain in the @$$ project.

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/14/2008 5:36:29 AM   
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Sorry to jack for a sec, but is it really that easy to put a T5 in? I thought it was supposed to be a pain in the @$$ project.


no not really if you have the parts and a weekend to spend.


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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/14/2008 6:28:00 AM   
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Sorry to jack for a sec, but is it really that easy to put a T5 in? I thought it was supposed to be a pain in the @$$ project.

Probably a day project at most


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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/14/2008 4:07:54 PM   
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But don't you have to rig the clutch pedal? Or are there brackets to install it right?

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/14/2008 7:29:46 PM   
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But don't you have to rig the clutch pedal? Or are there brackets to install it right?


the pedals bolt right in.  but you have to move the speedo cable to another hole, due to the fact that its currently in the clutch's reserved firewall stop.

the automatic has a brake pedal.

the manual has the clutch and brake pedal on the same assembly.

pull the auto out, stick the manual pedals in.


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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/14/2008 7:31:43 PM   
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I DID NOT WRITE THIS!THIS CAME FROM STINGER-PERFORMANCE... but its good info, so i'll post it as a sticky or somthing.


This article is specific to the 2.3 Mustang.  With minor changes, it can be used to complete the same swap on a 5.0 Mustang. 

I chose to do this swap for three reasons.  The first was because I was sick of the automatic sucking all the power from my car.  The second was because the auto tranny wasn't strong enough to handle the power my new turbo motor was putting out.  Had I not done the turbo swap, I don't know if I would have ever taken the time to swap trannies.  The third is because I wanted the ladies to ask to drive my stick and to teach them how to handle the stick. :) 

Above is my parts list.  This is only the high-performance pieces I chose to buy.  I was fortunate enough to get the transmission and parts listed below from a Turbo Coupe that my sister "donated" to my cause.  I would highly recommend the Quadrant and Firewall Adjuster listed above.  They are far superior to the factory plastic, non-adjustable units that are prone to breaking. Before you ever think of even beginning this swap make sure you  locate all the necessary parts and accessories listed below.  If you can find a complete car then it will simplify the process greatly.  All you need to do is get everything that is manual transmission specific (different than the auto trans equivalent).

If you want a printable checklist while you are doing the swap, left-click or right-click/save-as here:
Tranny Swap How To


If you want a printable list of parts and tools needed then left-click or right-click/save-as here:
Parts & Tools

Removal Of Automatic Transmission: 2 hours

1. Jack up the car as high as your jackstands will go.  If you still can't fit under the car, you either need to go on a diet or need bigger stands.  Put a jack stand near each wheel.
2. Remove driveshaft.  Watch as all the fluid runs onto the floor, making a big mess.  If you have a spare yoke that you can put in the tranny it will prevent the fluid leak.
3. Disconnect the throttle valve cable and speedometer cable as well as any plugs that are connected to the trans.
4. Remove the tranny cooler lines.  Don't be afraid to cut them if necessary.
5. Remove the inspection plate from the front of the tranny and remove the torque converter from the flex plate.  You will need to rotate the engine to get to each bolt.
6. Put a floorjack under the center of the tranny and remove the crossmember.
7. Use a box end wrench to remove the bellhousing to engine bolts.  You may find it easier to access the top bolts with a long extension.  I found it easier with a wrench.
8. Remove the transmission.  You will have to wiggle and pull back to get it to pop loose.
9. Pull the tranny out from under the car.  You may have to jack the car up even higher before it will slide out.
10. Install inspection plate to keep converter in place.


Shifter Removal: 20 min.

1. Remove the rubber boot that surrounds the automatic shifter.
2. Remove the plastic shifter bezel.  It will look like it's about to break and then the clips will let go and it will come loose.
3. Unbolt the shifter base and unhook the cable.
4. Remove the shifter.  It will take some force but the base will finally slide through the console hole.
5. Now you need to make room for the T5 shifter.  You need to lengthen the front of the hole by 1/2".  I have found that cutting a 1.5" by 1" slot in the back of the hole, directly in the center makes installation of the tranny much easier.
  Removal Of Pedal Assembly: 2 hours

1. The first step is the remove the driver's side seat and clear out the area so you can lay on your back for most of this procedure.  Once that is complete you can begin the removal of the pedal assembly.
2. Remove the plastic cover below the steering column and lower dash.
3. Remove the hood release cable and bracket.
4. Remove the 4 bolts that hold the steering column up.
5. Lower the steering column.  Unplug the wires as needed.
6. Remove the steering column.  All you need to do is remove the bolt on the steering shaft under the hood.  Once this is removed you can pull the column out of the car.  I did this because it simplifies the removal of the pedal assembly, if you choose not to do this you will need to let the column lay beside/on top of you while you lay under the dash (not a real enjoyable experience).


(This is what your steering column should look like once removed.  If it's different than this, you screwed up)

7. Remove the 4 nuts from the brake booster.  You will need to use a long extension to get to a few of the bolts.
8. Remove the two nuts from the top of the pedal assembly
9. Remove the brake booster rod from the brake pedal. Make sure you know how to put it back together.
10. Get out of the car and get under the hood.  Grab the brake booster assembly and pull it forward as far as you can without crimping anything. 

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/14/2008 7:58:07 PM   
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Thanks for the tech info. I guess it isn't that hard.

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/14/2008 11:25:57 PM   
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Ouch, 'stangs are expensive in canada! I don't think a 4 banger would sell for over 1k here(in pristine condition).

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/15/2008 6:41:36 AM   
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Ouch, 'stangs are expensive in canada! I don't think a 4 banger would sell for over 1k here(in pristine condition).

They are still for sale... I would ring them out if I was going to buy another one up here. I wont pay more than $1700 for one with NO RUST, low km's, and well taken care of (original paint, radio, olderly driven, et)


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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/15/2008 6:34:20 PM   
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Swapping to a t5 isnt THAT easy. Especially for people like me that dont know exactly what there doing.

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/15/2008 6:37:09 PM   
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Swapping to a t5 isnt THAT easy. Especially for people like me that dont know exactly what there doing.

It is a lot easier than I imagined, though, and it may be worth it if I can find a good T5, but I haven't seen any, just C4s and AODs.

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/15/2008 6:43:31 PM   
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Yeah it's defenately worth it in the end. I actually wanna do the swap one day myself. Theres always good T5s for sale around here! Infact, the guy who tried ripping me off wants to get rid of a couple t5s..lol

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/25/2008 12:14:15 AM   
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why get your a little cousin a 2.3 get him a 5.0 and mustangs in canada are dirt cheap the average price of a 2.3 is like 350 bucks in winnipeg anyway SLeeper lives in like the Hick part of Canada his city is half the size of miney but yeh i picked up my 2.3 for 500 bucks with 150km's i still wish i had a 5.0 though+ put a 302 in a mustang is alot eazier than trying to find a turbocoupe up here id rather have a 302 anyday more low down torque itll squish any 2.3T

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RE: I'm such a bad cousin - 5/25/2008 4:52:07 AM   
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Because he cannot contro a car, I've seen him drive and I'm scared he might even wrech this car

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