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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 12:38:28 AM   
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anywhere from 13-16$ for about 140 miles or so.  mustang gets about twice that, so im spending about half as much on gas.

the new 08 cbr 600rr's are monsters.  honda stepped their game up on the 600 this year.  i wouldnt go for a 750.  i'd go all the way and get a 1000 if i wasnt getting a 6, insurance nearly triples on bikes over 650cc so getting a 750 is just getting a hair more power for alot more insurance cost.  and 1000cc = death for a newb rider....so i wouldnt get one.

didnt see your 70 mile round trip.  the bike is probably going to become a nusence on such long trips to and from work.  a couple times a week yeah, but i wouldnt want to take a crotch rocket around 140+ miles a day.  its definately managable and if its mostly highway riding you can do things to make your ride more comfortable (get a backpack and pack it with clothes and wear it on your front, that way you can lean down on it and keep the strain off your back)

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 9:09:35 AM   
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Its actually about 34 miles each way, so almost 70 miles a day. Its mostly freeway with fairly light traffic since I miss rush hour.  Takes me about 45 minutes drive time each way. 

I think i'm really starting to lean toward the bike.  I havent really ridden a sport bike since my "friend" totaled out my bike about 10 years ago, so i'm gonna be looking at the 600's.

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 10:35:31 AM   
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As soon as I get back from overseas, I'm buying a '68 coupe for fun and a 650R for the commute..  I still have my truck, but Florida gas prices are a bit higher than where I live now, and driving a 4wd truck just doesn't make sense, when it's lifted and big ass tires, getting 12-17mpg..

A bike can be a lot more fun, and depending on the bike, can be a bit faster than a Cobra, with less insurance, and less of a foot print in your yard..  Plus I'm thinking up keep and maintenace would also be a plus to a bike..  Sh-t, most folks who do work on their cars, could rebuild an entire bike in less than a day..  Rebuilding a 4.6 from top to bottom for someone who isn't as experienced, would have a tough time doing it in a whole day..




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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 11:22:45 AM   
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If this is in the interest of saving money, don't get a crotch rocket; the insurance will easily cancel a good chunk of that gas savings. I'd recommend a Suzuki SV650, which is plenty quick, and much lower insurance. Especially if you haven't had a bike before. I'm riding around on an old 82 Yamaha 650, and insurance is <$300 for the entire year. Any bike with 600cc will be quick, so get more of a commuter bike than a race bike.

Just my advice..

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 11:39:28 AM   
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insurance isnt bad on a bike actually.  i pay 950 a year full coverage with less than a year of riding experience and i'm 22 and this is a 2008 bike (was quoted about 800 a year for 2005 models).  liability only will only set me back ~250 a year for pretty much any 600cc.  my bikes full coverage insurance is less than what my mustangs is...mustang is ~130 a month.

ehhh...up keep isnt really a plus on a bike.  if you beat it up you should be changing the oil every 1000 or so miles, chain needs to be cleaned and oiled anytime it gets wet, etc...  they arent tedius...but its not something that can just sit in the garage and not worry about maintenance on.

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 12:01:30 PM   
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insurance isnt bad on a bike actually.  i pay 950 a year full coverage with less than a year of riding experience and i'm 22 and this is a 2008 bike (was quoted about 800 a year for 2005 models).  liability only will only set me back ~250 a year for pretty much any 600cc.  my bikes full coverage insurance is less than what my mustangs is...mustang is ~130 a month.

ehhh...up keep isnt really a plus on a bike.  if you beat it up you should be changing the oil every 1000 or so miles, chain needs to be cleaned and oiled anytime it gets wet, etc...  they arent tedius...but its not something that can just sit in the garage and not worry about maintenance on.


Man, I pay less than that a year for my 96 Saleen.  My bike (a 2002 Suzuki Bandit 600S, similar to the SV650S) is only 200.00/year (full coverage) for insurance.  I am 25 though which makes a slight bit of difference, but that is a lot of dough for motorcycle insurance.  I would fully advocate a bike over the termi though (even though I want a termi bad as well), but look at it this way.  Your GT is paid off, you can park it in the garage and spend $15 bucks to fill your tank with a bike.  On a 600cc bike with mostly highway miles you should push close to 50mpg.  Or you can forgo the bike, trade in the GT, have at least a 400/mo payment and then insurance on top of that, plus gas for the termi. 


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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 12:57:44 PM   
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That's what I'm saying..  I'd say though, a 96 Saleen (12 y/o car) would be considerably cheaper on insurance than a 2003/4 500hp Cobra, for the fact of depreciation and power differences..

I figure, over the next couple of years, if you can, set aside about $400 a month, which would be about the payment of a Cobra, and then when you've saved up enough money, just buy one outright..  It makes a lot of sense if you think about it, and by then, you'll be old enough as to where your insurance is lower, and you'll be in a better job where you can afford things like insurance and modifications..



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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 2:25:42 PM   
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Definitely don't want a Terminator to be your only mode of transportation.

I live in Chicago, maybe my insurance rates are a bit higher because of that.. $200 a year full coverage for an 02 Bandit? Mind if I ask who you go through?

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 2:58:39 PM   
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I'm in Portland, OR which is a fairly large Metro area.  I go through American Family insurance.  I do get a a multiple vehicle (3) discount plus I also have my Home insurance through them.  So I've maxed out the discounts and don't know what it would be if I didn't have them.  As a comparison, my first bike has a 250 Ninja and insurance was $500/year with the same provider and discounts.  They said that the difference was because it was classified a crotch rocket, whereas the Bandit is not.

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 3:07:17 PM   
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I checked with my insurance company (progressive) for a quote and it would be about $68 a month on a 2006 R6 or CBR (600 CC).  For a 2008 model it would be about $130 a month.  So I would go with used if I get a bike.

Trade in value for my mustang would only be about 8-9k. I would have to finance at least 15k in addition to increased gas cost and insurance for the terminator.  So the bike would definitely be the cheaper option .  

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 3:26:59 PM   
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Bikes are a blast.  You definitely won't be dissapointed if you get one.

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 3:33:24 PM   
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i had an 03 R1 last year and I paid 224.00 a year. 

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 3:52:33 PM   
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wow what a debate.  Question if all you have is the bike, what about bad rain,etc.??  Everyone is debating over the gas/ins money issue, but you said it's not a big deal, it's all about the fun factor.  Can you keep the GT and get the bike?

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 4:09:49 PM   
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Yes, I would either keep the GT AND buy a sport bike, or Trade in the GT for a Terminator.  ( I still have a SUV I could drive if I didnt want to take the Terminator to work as well).

My decision was all about fun factor.  I want a bike, but the desert heat is a concern.

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RE: Trade in for a terminator or buy a sportbike ?? - 5/14/2008 9:57:31 PM   
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I'm in Portland, OR which is a fairly large Metro area.  I go through American Family insurance.  I do get a a multiple vehicle (3) discount plus I also have my Home insurance through them.  So I've maxed out the discounts and don't know what it would be if I didn't have them.  As a comparison, my first bike has a 250 Ninja and insurance was $500/year with the same provider and discounts.  They said that the difference was because it was classified a crotch rocket, whereas the Bandit is not.



thats why your insurance is so much cheaper.  plus thats an 02.  bikes insurance costs are based alot on year.  mine bieng an 08 they would owe me alot more money if i wrecked my bike than they would you if you wrecked your 02.  you are also getting multi vehicle and a home discount.  i have nothing.  my car insurance is paid off for another few months i believe, and i asked her if i could get a multi vehicle discount if i switched my car to them.  she said my bikes insurance would drop and my cars would stay about the same.  and in 2009 my bikes insurance should drop again because of depreciating value.


seriously the heat shouldnt be a concern ESPECIALLY if its mostly highway unless you sit in traffic alot.  moving 60mph the 100+ heat outside feels nice.  unless your bundled up in leathers it wont be a problem.

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