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Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 12:35:54 PM   
35thAnni99GT


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There are, for some reason I fail to see, people that don't believe that a car with 280whp will beat a car with 500whp from a dig race. It's not ALL about hp #'s d00d. Just because you have a m4d tyt3 SRT8 Charger/300C with more power doesn't mean you can beat a suspension/tire/chassis car with less power.

No one told the driver of the (insert high hp car here) to disadvantage himself with a stock chassis/suspension/narrow tire. Don't use the "Oh, he's running a slick, that thing is a race car" excuse either. He brought a less powerful car and you're mad that your car got spanked, end of story!




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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 12:39:05 PM   
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Because some people can't comprehend HP/weight is more important than just HP #s, especially when the car's suspension is set up to get the power to the ground.

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 12:43:07 PM   
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You'll never hear me bitching about it.

I agree - too many people focus on the hp number and completely ignore basic stuff like tires and UCA/LCA's.  Too bad for them.  If stuff like that didn't matter, you would just whip out dyno charts the guy with the highest number wins.

And don't even get me started on power under the curve........


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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 12:53:44 PM   
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Just take a look at stkjock sig. He get's it!

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 1:05:23 PM   
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So you blew away and SRT-8? Or Did you get blown away by an engine swap honda or something? Just spit it out, I don't like riddles  

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 1:15:22 PM   
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the same reason people dont understand power under the curve

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 1:18:23 PM   
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quote:

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So you blew away and SRT-8? Or Did you get blown away by an engine swap honda or something? Just spit it out, I don't like riddles


Haha thats what I'm trying to figure out.

But yeah, HP/TQ is worthless if you can't put it down. Kind of preaching to the choir here aren't you?

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 1:23:37 PM   
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the same reason people dont understand power under the curve
you mean an integral right, the area under the curve

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 1:30:03 PM   
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what is this power under the curve stuff yall are talking about? lost


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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 1:35:49 PM   
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how much power your making within your curve...if i had my dyno sheet i would post it up and show you, but i lost it.

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 2:59:37 PM   
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what is this power under the curve stuff yall are talking about? lost


Some cars may make a lot of peak power, but it doesn't make much power until you get into fairly high RPM. Worked-over Honda Civics and DOHC cars with big cams tend to fit this profile (but not always). Other cars begin to make a decent amount of power sooner, at lower RPM. This is good for racing because you don't have to wait for the power to kick in, it's there as soon as you hit the gas, right off of idle. Large pushrod motors with small cams and forced induction cars usually fall into this category. On the dyno sheet, the first category of cars will make a very steep power line; the second category will have a much flatter curve.

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 3:11:27 PM   
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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 3:14:39 PM   
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i agree. if i could put all my power to the ground i would run 10's. if you cannot put it to the ground then you lose.

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 3:28:19 PM   
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That reminds me. I need to get some LCA's when I get paid next weekend. lol. Even these damn 275's can't catch traction. I don't want to be embarassed running 2.4, or higher 60' times and not even breaking into the 13's whenever I make it up to Cordova.

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 3:47:12 PM   
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OP, it's kind of like why can't OHC people understand that pushrods are the shizzle.

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 3:47:32 PM   
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If you running a regular street tire LCA's won't help you much, it's after you get a decent dr that the LCA's come into play.^^

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 3:53:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 35thAnni99GT

There are, for some reason I fail to see, people that don't believe that a car with 280whp will beat a car with 500whp from a dig race. It's not ALL about hp #'s d00d. Just because you have a m4d tyt3 SRT8 Charger/300C with more power doesn't mean you can beat a suspension/tire/chassis car with less power.

No one told the driver of the (insert high hp car here) to disadvantage himself with a stock chassis/suspension/narrow tire. Don't use the "Oh, he's running a slick, that thing is a race car" excuse either. He brought a less powerful car and you're mad that your car got spanked, end of story!





I understand what your saying, but the 280whp car probably will lose against the 500whp. Thats a little bit too big of an exaggeration, nice charger bash too.


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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 3:55:07 PM   
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Well JD, my 15" drag rims and my mickey thompson ET streets haven't gotten here yet.
I got these bad boys in 275/60/15


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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 9:54:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JD1969

If you running a regular street tire LCA's won't help you much, it's after you get a decent dr that the LCA's come into play.^^

I plan on getting some Nittos in the coming months sometime too.

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RE: Why do people not understand?! - 5/13/2008 10:33:03 PM   
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Ok that's it. What the hell is LCA an acronym for?

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