Well, honestly OP, the P1 can push 12-psi with a pulley conversion like Vic mentioned. The other guys can correct me if I'm off here, but I honestly wouldn't push more than 9 or 10 psi on a stock 2v block. I've seen guys blow engines on less. The thing is to make SURE you get a good tune done for it. As long as you get that done and keep under about 400 RWHP I can't see you having any problems brudda. And centri blowers like the P1, the Vortech's and Paxton Novi's are good for DD's because you don't start building boost until you're higher in RPM's. That's just me though.
Vic: I've heard similar numbers before, so upgrading the head unit is something I'll probably have to wait and save up for. Though will I need the BAP to push 500+ out of a P1 head unit? That's what I'm trying to get at brudda. If I don't, that's money I can put into suspension work, like a new panhard, and better springs/shocks..
A P-1sc will get you to your +400rwhp goal. I wouldn't recommend going much higher than that on the stock bottom end. You are gonna need some supporting mods though, like a better flowing exhaust for starters, to help your engine get there.
yea im getting either Magnaflows or SLP LM1's here soon. but I know this is a newbie question but what do u mean by my stock bottom end? like what would I need to make it not stock?
yea im getting either Magnaflows or SLP LM1's here soon. but I know this is a newbie question but what do u mean by my stock bottom end? like what would I need to make it not stock?
A Built Shortblock.(Everything Below the Heads) Rods, pistons, Crank. I tried to find a Diagram on Google but no luck. If you stay around 400(so people say) u will be ok if you have a good tune(get a Dyno Tune from a Reputable shop after install). Im not going to run my s.c untill i get my built motor in because if i blow my stock motor thats just wasted money when i can wait and sell it.
you can buy everything seperate(talk to a good machine shop to assemble). $1800-2500 OR You can buy an already built one aswell. MMR, THR, (places like that) $2500+(thats a lowball)
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I WANT TO BUY: \/ 03 Cobra Fuel system(Tank/pumps) Rear end parts-Axels,Gears, Diff Cover 8.8(American Mus.) HPX blow through MAss air and housing.(VMP Tuning) P51 Intake (black powdercoat) (Fox lake) GOAL=600whp
D-1 is a step up from the P-1. Stronger and can provide you more boost. People with the D-1 usually range from 12 to 20psi and can push upwards of 600rwhp.
But should I upgrade to the D-1 if I have a stock block? I know ill probably need a different pully.
According to procharger tech (talked to them about all this stuff last week) they dont advise it. just because the d1 is meant to be ran with a built motor and higher amounts of boost. (which like Victor said 12-20psi) 12psi is pushing grounds for a stock block(rods, pistons, crank)....
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I WANT TO BUY: \/ 03 Cobra Fuel system(Tank/pumps) Rear end parts-Axels,Gears, Diff Cover 8.8(American Mus.) HPX blow through MAss air and housing.(VMP Tuning) P51 Intake (black powdercoat) (Fox lake) GOAL=600whp
Id say get the P1 and be done with it... Stat at like 380whp. Thats plenty Fast lol..
The D1 with around 500whp to be safe ur going to need:
FUEL SYSTEM (Cobra Tank/pumps, 60lb Injectors, maybee fuel rails) 1200-1600
BUILT MOTOR ( Shortblock if you want 2000-3500)
BUILT REAR END (If you do it ur self $600ish have a shop do it $1400)
INTAKE (im upgrading i dont think u HAVE to, but just incase plus u need fuel rails with it) $800
TRANNY (well TKO ATLEAST 2000 or t56-2700ish then installating is more)
That all off the top of my head... atleast stuff im looking at lol..
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I WANT TO BUY: \/ 03 Cobra Fuel system(Tank/pumps) Rear end parts-Axels,Gears, Diff Cover 8.8(American Mus.) HPX blow through MAss air and housing.(VMP Tuning) P51 Intake (black powdercoat) (Fox lake) GOAL=600whp
holy sh!t.....yea i think im just going to go with the P1. I just wanted alot more power because there are so many rice burners around here that think they are hot sh!t and I want to show them that thier jap cars suck balls
holy sh!t.....yea i think im just going to go with the P1. I just wanted alot more power because there are so many rice burners around here that think they are hot sh!t and I want to show them that thier jap cars suck balls
Im sorry, but if you have a P1 blower and a "Rice burner" beats you id show them some respect. They are people like us that have PRIDE in their car just like you.... Shytt if their 'rice burner" keeps up with a Full bolt-on mustang they deserve some respect.....
why dont people understand..... MONEY MAKES ANYTHING HAPPEN
Some people WANT a FAST CAR
Some people want a NICE LOOKING car
Some people want a Nice Sounding (system)
Some people like baseball and HATE football.
Some people Like Hockey and Hate Everything else.
Moral of the story.. EVERYBODY is Different.
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I WANT TO BUY: \/ 03 Cobra Fuel system(Tank/pumps) Rear end parts-Axels,Gears, Diff Cover 8.8(American Mus.) HPX blow through MAss air and housing.(VMP Tuning) P51 Intake (black powdercoat) (Fox lake) GOAL=600whp
any of you centrifugal guys ever consider running a wastegate on your setup. yea i know sounds rediculous doesnt it but, it works. saw a post on the turbo forums where there are a few people doing it. just throwing it out there for you guys, this would let you all adjust boost alot easier.
by the way i believe the use a wastegate because they come in larger sizes generally and they are better suited than a BOV for this application.
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looking for some injectors and at least stage 2 valve springs.......... pms welcome
When I get a bigger blower down the road, I will be running a wastegate unless I decide to get a big KB. I figure, have it pullied for 18-20 psi and then set the wastegate for like 10-12 for the street. You just need to roll around with two tunes on your handheld. A flip chip would make it much easier. Its a very cool idea. MM+FF or 5.0 mag (i don't remember which) did a pretty good write up on a vortech fox body that they installed one on.
And I'm gonna +1 to the fact that is some ricer hands your 380-400rwhp blown mustang its ass, then he/she deserves some props.
+10.. Some of those little buggers deserve a LOT of respect.. like the guy in the late 90's ish 3000GT VR4 with twin GT-40's that completely toasted me like I was standing still.. and I was doing 80.. Just because they're rice doesn't mean they're not fast.. lol
yea yea tru....But I just wanted something that would give me the power to beat most of them. Like the other night I raced an eclipse with a turbo and a P.O.S. 240sx and I beat both of them but i dont really think the eclipse tryed, he did alil but not alot, but alot of "ricers" around here think they are hot **** and everyone knows they arnt. But yea id give +2 for a ricer to beat me with a blower
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Just because they're rice doesn't mean they're not fast.. lol
