I started the "serious leaking/electrical issues" thread. To all those that are smelling mildew and mold, I had some bad allergic reactions to mine before it was fixed (leak supposedly fixed/ carpet replaced 05 Mustang GT 15000 miles). Now it is leaking again and the smell is coming back. I did not make the correlation until the smell started and my sinuses/ headaches began again. What are the chances those with the leaking issue will join me in a class action lawsuit against FORD? Not only is the leaking bad for the car, its resale value, and potential safety issues with the junction box but it is also harmful to your health. If you smell mildew there is mold. Next is a tidbit about what mold can do to you.
Many molds can cause health effects. Molds produce allergens, irritants and, sometimes, toxins that may cause adverse reactions in humans. A reaction to mold depends on how much a person is exposed to, the age of the person and the person’s sensitivities or allergies. The same amount of mold may cause health effects in one person, but not in another. Exposure to mold can cause a variety of symptoms. Sensitive people who have touched or inhaled mold or mold spores may have allergic reactions such as a runny nose, sneezing, nasal congestion, watery eyes, skin rash and itching (dermatitis). Molds can trigger asthma attacks in people who are allergic to molds, causing wheezing, chest tightness and shortness of breath. A disease like pneumonia may also develop after exposure to mold, but this is uncommon. People have died from exposure to mold.
Infectious diseases from molds can occur in people with weakened immune systems, such as those who are immune-compromised or immune-suppressed from drug treatment. Some types of mold are known to cause infections in immune-compromised people. Such infections can affect the skin, eyes, lungs or other organs. These are considered opportunistic infections that usually do not affect healthy people.
I don't have the leak issue, but "mold" could be the magic word to get Ford to fix this issue permanently, whether out of warranty or not. A car that makes you sick? Think there wouldn't be some media exposure for that? Big companies are hard to fight though.
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If you can get the media to start talking about the "mold" issue that might actually cause Ford to do something. Just don't start something that will end up giving our cars a bad rap.
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How many miles does your Mustang have? And how many times has it been in the shop for the same problem?
More than three times in the shop for the same issue or something that cause cause health issues or death are two of the three things that mandate a Lemon Law. Check your supplimental manual for extra info.
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I can't believe they have let it go on this long, I hate bean counters. This issue a long with the spark plug design flaw, noisey rear end and all of the other silly crap has cause me to think this will be my last Ford ever. I have had 5 Fords and all of them except this one have turned out to be a piece of junk. I have not had any issues with this one other then the bad design flaws, but it is also young. Ford needs to wake up and fix this problem once and for all a long with the spark plug issue. Come on Ford why do we have to have a leaky car that breaks spark plugs at 10k miles?
How many miles does your Mustang have? And how many times has it been in the shop for the same problem?
More than three times in the shop for the same issue or something that cause cause health issues or death are two of the three things that mandate a Lemon Law. Check your supplimental manual for extra info.
1500 Miles. Bought it when they first came out, so its considered a 2005. 3 times for the same fix.. going on 4 now. When I first noticed the problem according to the BBB I was outside of the Lemon Law in my state. I may have noticed it earlier if I drove it more as you can see 1500 mi. for an 05 is nothing. It is my main driver I just dont have a far away job. I realize the hard part about my issue is proving the health problems are correlated to the vehicle. However if this gets the right people to notice the problem and its various consequences maybe we can get it fixed. For the record, I love my car! Without this problem it would be perfect.
Wouldn't replacing the carpet and padding eliminate it? Where else could the mold be? It's not like a house where it can be in the wall or under the floor boards and difficult to get to. Seems to me that in a car, it would be pretty easy to eliminate.
Wouldn't replacing the carpet and padding eliminate it? Where else could the mold be? It's not like a house where it can be in the wall or under the floor boards and difficult to get to. Seems to me that in a car, it would be pretty easy to eliminate.
Mold can grow anywhere there is a moist environment. In the doors, dashboard... etc...all of these places are pretty difficult to get to. Furthermore who wants to replace the carpet everytime you get a leak.. Some of us are on 3+ times at the dealership for a leak that seems to not be able to be fixed on the first try.
If you can get the media to start talking about the "mold" issue that might actually cause Ford to do something. Just don't start something that will end up giving our cars a bad rap.
These cars already have a bad rep. I love my mustang but this political crap sickens me. Who the hell wants to protect the mustang name just so stupid s h ! t like this keeps getting overlooked?
My car is in the shop for the second time for this and it only has 840 miles on it.
I'm with you Rasguedo, whatever we got to do, sign petitions, picket...whatever. I'm in. The stang is a great american icon, not one we all want to know as leaky and sqeaky.
I have a question for anyone with the leak issue (I dont have it) Do you know where it leakes? has any shop or ford pinpointed the location? If so wouldnt 5 dollars of window cauking fix it? Juat a thought
I have a question for anyone with the leak issue (I dont have it) Do you know where it leakes? has any shop or ford pinpointed the location? If so wouldnt 5 dollars of window cauking fix it? Juat a thought
Mold can grow anywhere there is a moist environment. In the doors, dashboard... etc...all of these places are pretty difficult to get to. Furthermore who wants to replace the carpet everytime you get a leak.. Some of us are on 3+ times at the dealership for a leak that seems to not be able to be fixed on the first try.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you about the leak - my car has it also. But I can't see mold growing on metal unless it's continually wet. Inside the doors is supposed to get wet - that's why there are drain holes in the bottom. As long as an area doesn't STAY wet it won't grow mold. Carpet and fabric stay wet much longer than metal since they absorb moisture. Just playing devils advocate, but it seems to me Ford can just say they will handle the mold issue by replacing the carpet and padding (and possibly fabric seat covers if affected). Of course that assumes they fixed the leak in the first place - THAT is the real issue. I don't think the mold thing will stand up. Just my $.02
Mold can grow anywhere there is a moist environment. In the doors, dashboard... etc...all of these places are pretty difficult to get to. Furthermore who wants to replace the carpet everytime you get a leak.. Some of us are on 3+ times at the dealership for a leak that seems to not be able to be fixed on the first try.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you about the leak - my car has it also. But I can't see mold growing on metal unless it's continually wet. Inside the doors is supposed to get wet - that's why there are drain holes in the bottom. As long as an area doesn't STAY wet it won't grow mold. Carpet and fabric stay wet much longer than metal since they absorb moisture. Just playing devils advocate, but it seems to me Ford can just say they will handle the mold issue by replacing the carpet and padding (and possibly fabric seat covers if affected). Of course that assumes they fixed the leak in the first place - THAT is the real issue. I don't think the mold thing will stand up. Just my $.02
Mold does grow on metal (brass turning green is actually a mold), however I understand your point. Problem with mold is that once it is present the spores can go dormant until the right conditions exist. They also travel through the air. I am by no means a mold expert! lol. However I know this problem needs to be addressed.
ORIGINAL: rasguedo Mold does grow on metal (brass turning green is actually a mold)...
Wrong. Thats not mold it's oxidation. Oxidation can be caused by water. Brass is an alloy of Copper and Tin. The copper oxidizes in the presence of oxygen in water. Cu+H20 = CuO [Copper Oxide] + 2H. CuO is green in color. Don't believe everything you read on the Interweb.
ORIGINAL: rasguedo Mold does grow on metal (brass turning green is actually a mold)...
Wrong. Thats not mold it's oxidation. Oxidation can be caused by water. Brass is an alloy of Copper and Tin. The copper oxidizes in the presence of oxygen in water. Cu+H20 = CuO [Copper Oxide] + 2H. CuO is green in color. Don't believe everything you read on the Interweb.
Anyway, not trying to give you a hard time rasguedo. I absolutely agree that the water leak need to be handled better by Ford. I'm just not sure if the mold argument is gonna fly when it does seem possible to remove it completely in a car. getting Ford to actually do that is a diferent matter altogether.
My car was delivered with a bad mold issue, which I had fixed thanks to the info on this great forum. Be aware there is a new Ford TSB on the leak problem so you now have a leg to stand on at the dealership
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