Well I forgot to mention that the compound boost system is the right price, free.
It will be marketed to GT500 owners and my car is the rolling test bed. I have to leave the Eaton on for the testing. So that means I can't port it or change it out until after that process is complete.
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Yeah, its got a three speed. Fast, Faster, and Hold on! 10.30 @ 131 in the 1/4 6.6 @ 110 in the 1/8 1.5 60''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Saddle up, yes the new trans will be installed in time for the weekend! I picked up the trans this morning and dropped it off at the shop.
T-400 with Transbrake Aluminum high gear drum Aftermarket Input and Drum Steel hub JW 8 bolt flywheel JW Bell housing
Should be ready to go pretty quickly!!
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Yeah, its got a three speed. Fast, Faster, and Hold on! 10.30 @ 131 in the 1/4 6.6 @ 110 in the 1/8 1.5 60''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Well I forgot to mention that the compound boost system is the right price, free.
It will be marketed to GT500 owners and my car is the rolling test bed. I have to leave the Eaton on for the testing. So that means I can't port it or change it out until after that process is complete.
Forget everything I said.
When the price is right, the price is right, "Come on down"
Anyway, Have fun.
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Compound boost has the biggest advantage of lower IAT's, due to the compression process being more efficient. 2 stage compression is much closer to isothermal compression curve, then high dp single stage. This is assuming the turbos are going through an intercooler.
Yes the turbos are going through an intercooler! I really can't answer more then that since I haven't seen the finished product yet! The whole system is being mocked up at the particular companies facility and I haven't even seen it yet!!
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Yeah, its got a three speed. Fast, Faster, and Hold on! 10.30 @ 131 in the 1/4 6.6 @ 110 in the 1/8 1.5 60''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Well I just got back from the shop a little while ago. The transmission is in place and the cross brace mounted. Shifter is installed and the transbrake and neutral lockout are getting wire up tonight.
Tomorrow the trans cooler and my new afco heat exchanger get installed, the drive shaft gets fitted up (we might even be able to use the one I had) and we do the finishing work on the mounting and wiring! The new transmission is the exact same length as the Cobra 6 speed I had, making the whole job much easier!!
Here's a couple of pic's!
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Yeah, its got a three speed. Fast, Faster, and Hold on! 10.30 @ 131 in the 1/4 6.6 @ 110 in the 1/8 1.5 60''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Plain and simple the auto is much quicker (shifting) and consistent for the track IMHO and the stick is fun for DD and street racing. Ask almost any truly serious tracjk racer and they will say the same!
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why the automatic?
I will bet Billy Gliddon would disagree with a auto over a manuel
Even with nearly stock cars the automatics consistently put down better times than manuals...its just a fact of life...
Actually on near stock cars with no agresive manuel or auto trans the manuel will eat up the auto all day and all night long. A little re search will show that test of identical factory cars shows the manuel always a bit quicker.
He's running the same "girl-o-matic" I am. I should probably let John Urist (three time NMRA champion and owner of hellion turbo's), Danny Bagginga, Don Burton, Richard Lelsz and 1/2 acre now that their 7 second cars are running on "girl-o-matics also.
As far as the street goes.....I'll give you 2 lengths and the move and still smoke you like your in reverse!
This made me laugh " As far as the street goes.....I'll give you 2 lengths and the move and still smoke you like your in reverse! Do you want to race heads up my car and yours? or do you want to use equal cars? and what track? You will have to wait untill I go on leave from Iraq in July or when I return to the states in Dec/Jan 09 time frame. I love it when someone who has no idea of the abilities of the other makes challenges like this. I will go on record here as telling you this. You meet me at some track when I get home and I will spring for the track time and the indentical rental cars, 1 with a manuel, and 1 with an automatic and after plenty of passess to get aquanted with the cars we will race best of 5 and I will put up 10,000 dollars that I can beat you with a manuel! I will go one farther and let you decide on the rental types for the cars. Oh ya by the way the last time John Urist and I spoke we talked about a subject similiar to this and his definition of an automatic is a tranny that requires no human feedback by means of shifting. Even he considers his trannys clutchless manuels.
Doh I need to proof read before hitting the button.
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Well Ruffnuts I wish you luck in Iraq. Come home safe.
In regards to the car you may want to check out the specs on the trans. It may also be noted that I am not converting a stock car to manual. The car is heavily modified.
In regards to racing, run what you brung. Mine against yours would be just fine. Your criticizing MY choice to put a manual in MY car. If you feel you've done better with your choices on your car then put it on the line...simple as that!
I'm not debating which trans is better. I'm talking about which trans is better for my car. I didn't say I want an automatic because it's the best for the track (while it has proven advantages). I am saying it is best for my car at the track given the current HP and future HP goals.
Ooh and the car next to the the yellow one in the vid.......is Urist. I sponsor the Strictly Performance Richard Lelsz 10.5 car. I know exactly what they are running. While they are clutchless manuals as Urist said (and is mine) they are still an automatic. As knowledgeable as you are I am surprised you didn't make criticisizim of my particular choice in trans. Given it's a GM automatic.
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Yeah, its got a three speed. Fast, Faster, and Hold on! 10.30 @ 131 in the 1/4 6.6 @ 110 in the 1/8 1.5 60''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
ruffNUT, the girl-o-matic comment was totally unneccesary but you two sound like a couple of ten year olds. It is clear you are duly impressed with your own superb ability to shift. enjoy....
Well this thread has definetly digressed from it's original intent.
Perhaps with the forgiveness of my fellow forum members we can get back on topic.
Went to the shop this morning. Trans fits up great! We are actualy able to use the original crossmember with hardly any modification!! Drilled two holes thats it!!!
The driveshaft seems to fit ok. We will need to modify the end. However, Richard is intent on putting in a solid stick! I'm intent on running the car this weekend!! We compromised, we'll install the existing aftermarket DS and order a solid stick for next week!!
This trans swap has been fairly easy so far. Even given it's a GM trans. We still have several issues of functionality to work out (speedometer for one). However, the setup should be operational for the weekend (hope I didn't just shoot myself in the foot there)! What's better, everything is still in place to allow me to swap back to the 6 speed cobra trans should I desire to later!
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This is a great thread. The Stalled/transbrake equiped autos can wreek havic at the track. Had I not popped my motor a few weeks ago, I would be dropping my car off for the tranny swap tommorrow instead of a built motor.
Pulling up to the line and pausing prior to staging, spooling the turbo and letting her rip creates deadly times and super consitant times.
Next year I will probably swap out for the auto tranny, 4r70w and a bigger turbo.
Thanks Simon! When you get ready let me know. I have found a local shop here that builds custom trans for race applications and the price is right! They also stand behind their work! A lot of racers down here use them!
They can build a mean TC but it just isn't enough for what I was going to throw at it! Or most likely what your going to be throwing at yours!!LOL Just get ready.....that TC is gonna cost!
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Well this is a age old argument, I for one have tested like cars with Auto vs Manual. I have a 2005 Mustang GT with a Stock 5R55S Auto, Mods. JLT II CAI, Steeda UDP, Steeda CMDP, FRPP 4.10 Gears, Spyder DS, CHE LCA, and Ran with 2 different Manual 06 and 07 GT's both with same or similar Mods ana I ran 2-3 tenths better than them throughout the day. My times were almost dead on each run. 99% of the Fastest S197 Mustangs NA or SC are Automatics.
these are some of the fastest NA (All Motor) Automatic Cars on this site JimII@JDM 11.64 Spyder7724 11.89 2K05GT 12.41 Boss281 12.67 Anticubicle 12.81
Like PLstang said lets keep the thread on track! He was letting us all know that the car is going auto and that he was including all of us in his decision..... now comment on that and please avoid debating which is better and auto or manual! Thanks J
PLstang....if you want this pulled or locked just let me know Not terrible yet but I have seen thses take the turn for the worse real quickly
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