I own both along with many other rifles and hand guns. The AR15 is a .223 cal. and the M1A also know as the M14 when I was a Marine back in the 70's is a .308 cal. The .308 cal. will make a small hole going in and a very large hole coming out your back side. The .223 cal. will stay inside your body and just bounce all over your body tearing up everything in its path. Either way both will put you in your grave.
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Curt
2003 Mustang GT Stock, W/Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter and SS bumper inserts Magnaflow Catback
Some groups still use the .308 M-16 A2 religiously. I personally am in love with my H&K 416. It is a undeniable upgrade to all assault rifles available Good vids
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I own both along with many other rifles and hand guns. The AR15 is a .223 cal. and the M1A also know as the M14 when I was a Marine back in the 70's is a .308 cal. The .308 cal. will make a small hole going in and a very large hole coming out your back side. The .223 cal. will stay inside your body and just bounce all over your body tearing up everything in its path. Either way both will put you in your grave.
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Whipple Crew Member
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The only thing I hate about the AR-15/M4 series of rifles is the caliber. Being in the U.S. Army, we of course use the 5.56 edition because it's made to wound rather than kill. It really wouldn't be so bad if we would go back to the 55gr jacketed rounds instead of the green-tipped 62gr armor piercing rounds we use. That is the dumbest thing I can think of to shoot at someone this side of a slingshot. Especially when you consider that no one we have shot at in years has been wearing body armor. So the rounds just travel straight through them and leave a hole the size of a pencil. Its retarded, we have shot some guys 5 times and they still didn't die. Its all about shot placement too, I know. But given a .308/7.62mm round we could be tons more effective with less rounds expended as well, don't you think?
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Not to mention the effective range on the M16/M4 isn't up to par with the larger(heavier) rounds. Just get about 800 yards out and laugh as the bullets bounce off your chest.<---kidding
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Yeah, you joke but then its kinda true. The rounds just SUCK! They have a crappier trajectory than the heavier rounds and with the open sight system on the M16/M4 hitting a single person at 600m is wishful thinking anyway. (In less than 3 rounds or so anyway).
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No, the AR-15 fires .223. However, there is the AR-10 or the variants thereof that do fire .308. Those are not issued to soldiers by the way. (Unless you're a scout. And then, MAYBE.)
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The M-4/M-16 series rifle has all kinds of barrels out there. 308, 223, 688 you just got to look out there. The military channel did a show on the replacement for the M-4. Then again it''s hard to find more ammo if you brought something other than the 223, because everbody out there uses the 223. If firing m4 then only use m855 green tip and m856 orange tip. Otherwise the effectiveness goes downhill at around 70-75 meters using the m193 no color and m196 red tip.
Damn skippy! And that is why I love shooting the .50cal on my ship! Luckily it''''''''s a mounted gun, so I don''''''''t feel the full force of the recoil. I also love shooting the M240A. That''''''''s a fun little gun. It''''''''s a 7.62mm machine gun closely related to the M60, but I''''''''m sure most of you knew that already.
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