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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 10:22:41 AM

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are u kidding me? the Z06 suspension a rear fat ass tires are ideal for hooking up ED

I am not sure if you are serious or not, so I will answer it both was:

1. Joking - ha ha ha!

2. Serious - stated like someone that has never driven a C6 Z06 before. Stock horsepower more than overpowers the rear tires. I've busted them loose shifting into 3rd on the highway at 90 mph. Now add 150 hp or so. What do you think is going to happen? The Z is incredibly hard to launch. You can't slip the clutch without the risk of overheating the fluid and having the pedal stick to the floor. Dump and floor it and you got a ton of smoke and your ass end is going sideways. Even with DR's, you will overpower the tires with 570 rwhp. Getting it to run down the track as quick as possible will ALL be on the driver. You have to figure out how quickly to squeeze the pedal to the floor: slow enough to not spin and fast enough to make max acceleration. It's not easy.

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 10:33:15 AM

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can i try to figure it out with yuors?

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 12:57:02 PM

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GT500 only runs 12.9 while Z06 runs mid 11's -->

http://mustangs.about.com/od/modelyearprofiles/a/gt500vschallngr.htm

GT500 is a better match for the older LS2 Vette's, but will still need mod's to take the older Vette.

Dude send me ur paypal email, ill send u some pennies so u can buy a clue!!!

Yeah, the Truth hurts when actually tested -->
GT500 only runs 12.9 while Z06 runs mid 11's -->

http://mustangs.about.com/od/modelyearprofiles/a/gt500vschallngr.htm

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 1:03:07 PM

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Dude, they have run a 12.2 @117, wtf is your problem bro?

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/07GrabberMustangGT/3865.gif

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 1:04:40 PM

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Better yet, here ya go mid....

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/07GrabberMustangGT/gun.gif

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 1:48:14 PM

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That GT500 should've taken that vette with that amount of horsepower, My car which has a kenne bell with a 15 pound pulley and making 552hp took on a stock z06 not too long ago and won. I have a vid on it I'll posted on youtube when I go back home for the summer.

Aren't those 4.10's a bit much for a KB on 15psi?

not totally as long as he can hook up. But he can still hit 170+ if hes got the power.

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 1:57:14 PM

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i would love to go 170+...i've been to 150mph and it's not fast enough

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 3:46:47 PM

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How about this bargin turbo system for my Z? http://www.airpowersystems.com/corvette/tts07.htm

Can you believe that is considered "inexpensive"?

EDIT: not sure if it lists the price, but the kit is $11k plus shipping.

meh.........don't go FI on the Z. Boost+LS7 = boom. not a good motor for that. n/a ftw.

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 3:55:24 PM

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How about this bargin turbo system for my Z? http://www.airpowersystems.com/corvette/tts07.htm

Can you believe that is considered "inexpensive"?

EDIT: not sure if it lists the price, but the kit is $11k plus shipping.

meh.........don't go FI on the Z. Boost+LS7 = boom. not a good motor for that. n/a ftw.

+1

The LS7 was meant to remain N/A. Cam and heads will have you safely 640rwhp...

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 4:02:16 PM

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Talk to Katech to dispell the FI myth. I think they know their sh!t.

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 4:03:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

How about this bargin turbo system for my Z? http://www.airpowersystems.com/corvette/tts07.htm

Can you believe that is considered "inexpensive"?

EDIT: not sure if it lists the price, but the kit is $11k plus shipping.

meh.........don't go FI on the Z. Boost+LS7 = boom. not a good motor for that. n/a ftw.

+1

The LS7 was meant to remain N/A. Cam and heads will have you safely 640rwhp...

What about the numerous guys with FI making big numbers on corvetteforums and others?

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 4:10:45 PM

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Talk to Katech to dispell the FI myth. I think they know their sh!t.

People will sell you what ever you want to buy. 5-6psi is a far as I would go on a stock LS7 block. A cam and heads set will put the same power if not more out safely. Besides, they don't know sh** about F/I. They simply buy the chargers from Procharger and slap it on. They know their stuff about heads and cams.

< Message edited by MrRogers -- 5/15/2008 4:14:25 PM >

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 4:42:13 PM

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I think they know something about FI.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showpost.php?p=1565136463&postcount=1

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 4:49:00 PM

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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showpost.php?p=1564653865&postcount=6

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 4:57:00 PM

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I think they know something about FI.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showpost.php?p=1565136463&postcount=1

Ah I see you ran over to Corvette Forums to gather some type of counterpoint the info that I already have stored in my head.

Like I said, 5-6psi is as far as I would go on a stock LS7 motor. Notice how that one is completely built?

It's not even street legal to boot

I told you that Kateck don't know sh** about F/I. I stand behind that. They buy the turbo/superchager kits, and slap them on. It's not hard at all. GM already said that the LS7 was not the correct design for a F/I setup...Hence the LS9

What Kateck do know about is heads and cams. They actually design and develop those parts. Notice how the only "Kateck" parts on that car was a forged pistons and and custom camshaftt?

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 5:05:22 PM

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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showpost.php?p=1564653865&postcount=6

Haha

Nice single post link there Bick. I remember that thread. The air attack LS7 has forged internals. I believe the air attack block also has sleeves too.

Which brings me back to my statement...

A stock LS7 is not reliable past 5-6psi. The block and crank can handle upwards of 900+ hp

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 5:10:21 PM

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So a company like Katech has to actually manufacturer the supercharger or turbo in order to know anything about it? Are ya kidding me?

Read the other post I linked. There is no weakness in the block. Do you need a built engine to run a lot of boost? Yes. Do you need a lot of boost? Nope. 4.9 psi psi and you are at 625 rwhp.

It's not the boost that kills the engine per se. It's the amount of power it makes with high boost.

Christ, I am not even going FI - why are we arguing?

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 5:19:40 PM

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So a company like Katech has to actually manufacturer the supercharger or turbo in order to know anything about it? Are ya kidding me?

Read the other post I linked. There is no weakness in the block. Do you need a built engine to run a lot of boost? Yes. Do you need a lot of boost? Nope. 4.9 psi psi and you are at 625 rwhp.

It's not the boost that kills the engine per se. It's the amount of power it makes with high boost.

Christ, I am not even going FI - why are we arguing?

All I'm saying is that if I wanted a F/I setup, Kateck is the last place I would go. If I wanted a nice heads and cam setup, Kateck is the first palce I would go. In stock form the LS7 is a F/I sensitive block. The engine is bored out. Why do you think they go with forged internals, sleeves and conservative tunes on LS7 setups?

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 5:20:39 PM

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Sorry for the single post. Here is the whole thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1974277

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RE: KB GT500 vs C6Z - 5/15/2008 6:06:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: MrRogers

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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam

How about this bargin turbo system for my Z? http://www.airpowersystems.com/corvette/tts07.htm

Can you believe that is considered "inexpensive"?

EDIT: not sure if it lists the price, but the kit is $11k plus shipping.

meh.........don't go FI on the Z. Boost+LS7 = boom. not a good motor for that. n/a ftw.

+1

The LS7 was meant to remain N/A. Cam and heads will have you safely 640rwhp...