Ya man I still want the dimensions? The outside dimensions will be fine, Thanks. As far as mounting the amps to the back of the box it will be fine. The car vibrates anyways...and the subs hitting will vibrate the amps no matter where they are located so I doubt its gonna damage them anymore than placing them on the back of a box.
That sub box moves a lot more then you think.
I'd make sure those screws holding the amp are nice and tight. When the vibrations of the box and amp slowly cause the screws to eat away the MDF and your box has holes in it, you will wish you didn't mount the amp to the box.
Also, that makes it way to easy to a theif to steal and I have never seen anyone with a decent system mounting the amps to the sub box.
Ya man I still want the dimensions? The outside dimensions will be fine, Thanks. As far as mounting the amps to the back of the box it will be fine. The car vibrates anyways...and the subs hitting will vibrate the amps no matter where they are located so I doubt its gonna damage them anymore than placing them on the back of a box.
Your still an idiot. Thats like saying, well the heat that is on the cupboard above your stove is just as hot as the burner. The box moves, if you have ever had a decent system you can look at the box and see it flex. That is far more vibration than your amp would ever see mounted to say a board mounted to your seat. My single 15" Tempest setup had plenty of bracing and the back center of the box flexed atleast 1/4", probably closer to 1/2".
Ya man I still want the dimensions? The outside dimensions will be fine, Thanks. As far as mounting the amps to the back of the box it will be fine. The car vibrates anyways...and the subs hitting will vibrate the amps no matter where they are located so I doubt its gonna damage them anymore than placing them on the back of a box.
Usually I don't reply to many of these threads, but goddam I cannot stand seeing you post in this section anymore. I don't think you are qualified to work at McDonalds nevertheless a stereo installation center. You have asked how to build a box for who knows how long now, are you just too damn lazy to take a tape measure to your car??? Or to just go somewhere and have them build you a custom box??? But then in one thread you say you are a stereo installer, give me a break! And I would slap any stereo installer that tried to mount my amp onto my sub box. That is something you DO NOT DO! You are definite proof that you just cannot fix stupid...
lucky just like u said you DOUBT it want hurt the amp. I have no doubt that it WILL hurt the amp. All your info is based on what you think you know and what you think you know is all WRONG.
P.S - like i said IM ALWAYS RIGHT!!
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As far as "unmounting" the amp, can I just take it off the box and do something else with it? Or do these guys usually drill all the way through and I'd have to seal it with something? Any suggestions for what to do with the amp thats simple would be appreciated
^^ all depends on the installer ive seen some use 1/2 inch ive seen some use up to 1 1/2" screws. What size mdf is yours? im 99% sure they have been sunk into the box. Just seal the holes and enjoy. be careful when backing the screws out.
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I have installed countless systems, and done many with the amp on the back of the box. It is not my favorite place for a couple of reasons but sometimes the install dictates it for any number of reasons. If you can avoid it then you should do so but to make it sound as if you do it the amp will catch fire and take the vehicle with it it stupid. I was able to avoid it with my setup but we are not all dealing diamond audio and have the experience I have, sometimes you have to make it work.
look,and amp on the back of an enclosure ........3 years and still POUNDING
also ,most HT subs not only have the amp inside the enclosure but nothing even covering the electronics A plate amp is fully exposed to the HT subs OMG CAN YOU BELIEVE IT
some of you have been reading too many audio forums ,the kind that suggest that even soldering an audio wire will distort and ruin the SQ of your system if its not 24K gold plated
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^Your amplifier isn't even hooked up so that doesn't count^
Most HT enclosures are built 10 fold what alot of car ones are, lots lots lots of bracing. The amplifiers are mounted with what 12-20 screws along with a soft, sealing, dampening material around where it mounts to the enclosure, plus they don't have the additional movement/vibrations of being in a constantly moving environment.
Im not totally anal about mounting an amplifier to a box. There are just a few small reasons I stay away from it when I can.
-Preventative maintenance (safe than sorry) -No un-necessary holes in your enclosure -3 snips and your wntire system is gone -And the obvious and it doesn't mater how you look at it it still gets more vibrations mounted to the box, you can't argue that, just your opinion on the potential effects of those vibrations.
Let's not forget you have a NINe.1 too, thats 90% you have no problems either
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Wait, you are telling me that solder isn't better then my 24k gold but connectors??? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
3 years isn't long enough for the amp to fall off. Give youself a couple decades a loose screw, and a dancing amp, and sooner or later that screw is coming out.
After 6 years in my car, an amp mounted to a steel seat frame decided one day it wanted to come loose. It made a ton of racket and could have damaged my amp. Good thing I'll only have the car for a couple more years, The vibrations destroyed the screw hole bad enough to drive me to use an oversized screw...
a couple of decades real are you serious? I dare you to find a link to the pics and story of the amp that fell off of the box after a decade or two........ double dog.......... Are we forgetting that all car audio is designed to put up with the car environment which could not be any worse for electronics. The vibrations, bumps and shocks from normal driving, along with the extreme temp changes, dust, humidity and condensation taken into account and you have a place that could not be more wrong for electronics.
I think we are all arguing the same point. It is less then ideal however I will personally tell you that it is not going to spontaniously combust and take you and the car with it, at least not for the first 15 yrs. When avoided it should be but if you are really going to argue that there is any piece of car audio gear that is not made and designed to absorbe vibrations, bumps and shocks then I will tell you one piece of gear to never buy.
Are we forgetting that all car audio is designed to put up with the car environment
I would argue on that. Alot of stuff out there is made to look fancy and sell sell sell. Not every company spends their money in a solid design. Unfortunatly.
now you are just arguing to argue. Did you finish my post?
"When avoided it should be but if you are really going to argue that there is any piece of car audio gear that is not made and designed to absorbe vibrations, bumps and shocks then I will tell you one piece of gear to never buy. "
I stand by that sentence that I wrote, as well as the one your wrote as they say the exact same thing.
breath in, breath out, and stop arguing man. Is it time for you to take a breather from here?
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Are we forgetting that all car audio is designed to put up with the car environment
I would argue on that. Alot of stuff out there is made to look fancy and sell sell sell. Not every company spends their money in a solid design. Unfortunatly.
a couple of decades real are you serious? I dare you to find a link to the pics and story of the amp that fell off of the box after a decade or two........ double dog.......... Are we forgetting that all car audio is designed to put up with the car environment which could not be any worse for electronics. The vibrations, bumps and shocks from normal driving, along with the extreme temp changes, dust, humidity and condensation taken into account and you have a place that could not be more wrong for electronics.
I think we are all arguing the same point. It is less then ideal however I will personally tell you that it is not going to spontaniously combust and take you and the car with it, at least not for the first 15 yrs. When avoided it should be but if you are really going to argue that there is any piece of car audio gear that is not made and designed to absorbe vibrations, bumps and shocks then I will tell you one piece of gear to never buy.
Agreed.
Me and disturbed have had problems so we will be even less likely to do it again in the future.
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