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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/11/2008 11:51:25 AM   
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That is a sweeeet ride bro!I would steal,I mean borrow that all the time!My dad bought a 428SCJ MACH 1 new and kicks himself for gettting rid of it.Obviously.He said it ran MANY street races back in the day and his best time,Modified of course was 11.27.I guess he added two 3 barrel holleys(Google it if you haven't seen one),Headers and a bunch of other stuff.That is a kick azz car!Thanks for the pics.Was it originally bought at Tasca Ford?If so,That place comes with a lot of history.NICE!

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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/11/2008 1:38:52 PM   
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That is a sweeeet ride bro!I would steal,I mean borrow that all the time!My dad bought a 428SCJ MACH 1 new and kicks himself for gettting rid of it.Obviously.He said it ran MANY street races back in the day and his best time,Modified of course was 11.27.I guess he added two 3 barrel holleys(Google it if you haven't seen one),Headers and a bunch of other stuff.That is a kick azz car!Thanks for the pics.Was it originally bought at Tasca Ford?If so,That place comes with a lot of history.NICE!


I'm not 100% sure about the tasca thing, it came with that but we don't think it was, my dad just keeps it on there to cover the two holes in the back that would be there if we took it off.  and to cobrasnake, when you're looking to buy property and go to college at 18, like you said, sacrifices have to be made haha


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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/11/2008 6:59:25 PM   
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mmm...my dad wants a '69, and I want a '70....

Even though, I'm starting to think the '69s look better than the '70's (mach 1's anyways, not boss 302's.)

As for the 302 vs 351 debate,,,that depends on what youre debating..

the 300hp 351's were a lot strong than the 2 barrels that were at least 20-30 hp down..

and yes, '71-'72 Machs were slow w/o the BIG motor in '71.

Boss 351 though...mmm....Boss 351 > Boss 302 in a straight line 


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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/11/2008 7:53:56 PM   
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mmm...my dad wants a '69, and I want a '70....

Even though, I'm starting to think the '69s look better than the '70's (mach 1's anyways, not boss 302's.)

As for the 302 vs 351 debate,,,that depends on what youre debating..

the 300hp 351's were a lot strong than the 2 barrels that were at least 20-30 hp down..

and yes, '71-'72 Machs were slow w/o the BIG motor in '71.

Boss 351 though...mmm....Boss 351 > Boss 302 in a straight line 


Boss 351? I was under the impression it was just a Boss 302 and the Boss 429.


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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/11/2008 9:59:41 PM   
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Boss 351? I was under the impression it was just a Boss 302 and the Boss 429.


Then you're missing out on the best :-)

Though still not my favorite compared to a '70 Boss 302,
Boss 351's were '71 Models only.

Do a search, you'll find a lot of information.

I thought everyone knew about the Boss 351




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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/12/2008 7:07:08 AM   
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Sorry to hear your father ruined the value of a perfectly nice '69 Mach 1 (Best looking Mustang ever IMHO).  Without the original engine in that car you've probably dumped a good $5000 off of the resale value, shame too.  A nicely restored, numbers matching '69 Mach can easily go for $15,000-$25,000, depending on the motor.

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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/12/2008 7:28:20 AM   
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Sorry to hear your father ruined the value of a perfectly nice '69 Mach 1 (Best looking Mustang ever IMHO).  Without the original engine in that car you've probably dumped a good $5000 off of the resale value, shame too.  A nicely restored, numbers matching '69 Mach can easily go for $15,000-$25,000, depending on the motor.


It's quite obvious they're not at all interested in resale value.
As for 'ruining' it, that's all in the eye of the beholder. It sounds like it was just a 351 Windsor Mach 1 that was in no way limited production or anything like that.

Not everyone wants a perfectly restored 100% stock showcar that they're afraid to drive because they might get it wrecked and will lose their 'resale value'. If it were a 428 drag pack car with every option and was like,  1 of 1 or 2, then perhaps I would agree with you, but it's not.


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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/12/2008 8:03:38 AM   
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That is a sweeeet ride bro!I would steal,I mean borrow that all the time!My dad bought a 428SCJ MACH 1 new and kicks himself for gettting rid of it.Obviously.He said it ran MANY street races back in the day and his best time,Modified of course was 11.27.I guess he added two 3 barrel holleys(Google it if you haven't seen one),Headers and a bunch of other stuff.That is a kick azz car!Thanks for the pics.Was it originally bought at Tasca Ford?If so,That place comes with a lot of history.NICE!


um...Im going to guess that you mean 3 2 barrels?




and there is NO replacement for displacement

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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/12/2008 1:43:30 PM   
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Sorry to hear your father ruined the value of a perfectly nice '69 Mach 1 (Best looking Mustang ever IMHO).  Without the original engine in that car you've probably dumped a good $5000 off of the resale value, shame too.  A nicely restored, numbers matching '69 Mach can easily go for $15,000-$25,000, depending on the motor.


It's quite obvious they're not at all interested in resale value.
As for 'ruining' it, that's all in the eye of the beholder. It sounds like it was just a 351 Windsor Mach 1 that was in no way limited production or anything like that.

Not everyone wants a perfectly restored 100% stock showcar that they're afraid to drive because they might get it wrecked and will lose their 'resale value'. If it were a 428 drag pack car with every option and was like,  1 of 1 or 2, then perhaps I would agree with you, but it's not.



+1,and actually smarta$$ Ozz, he's already gotten offers of $15,000 for the car, and it's not even in perfect condition, the windows don't close correctly, the hood springs don't either, and a few other minor things you'd expect for a 40 year old car.  His last car was a 1973 mach1 he restored fully and we had someone pull in the driveway that told us he doesn't care what the price is, he would take it.  since my dad is a very fair person he only sold it for $10,000, that's all he put into it so that's what he sold it for.  I didn't think I would get so many a$$hole comments respecting the intergrity of my own car and my father.


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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/12/2008 3:17:02 PM   
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Boss 351? I was under the impression it was just a Boss 302 and the Boss 429.


Then you're missing out on the best :-)

Though still not my favorite compared to a '70 Boss 302,
Boss 351's were '71 Models only.

Do a search, you'll find a lot of information.

I thought everyone knew about the Boss 351




Bah no true Mustang lover gives a **** about the 70's models
But seriously, Boss 429>Boss 351


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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/12/2008 5:31:03 PM   
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351s are slugs eh?  so then explain how the 351 in MY mach 1 has more throttle response and revs faster than my fox, or even my brothers 347 eh?  (my car it makes some sense,  but a built 347 versus a built 351   (sorry im disappointing anyone, the 351 isnt numbers matching)

trust me, if he had put a built 351 instead of a built 302, it would have turned you every way but loose

if 351s were worse than 302s, noone would run them, why do you think so many fox body owners swap in a 351


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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/13/2008 12:05:22 AM   
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Are you talking about the 351 clevland or Winsor??

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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/13/2008 4:29:55 AM   
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That is a sweeeet ride bro!I would steal,I mean borrow that all the time!My dad bought a 428SCJ MACH 1 new and kicks himself for gettting rid of it.Obviously.He said it ran MANY street races back in the day and his best time,Modified of course was 11.27.I guess he added two 3 barrel holleys(Google it if you haven't seen one),Headers and a bunch of other stuff.That is a kick azz car!Thanks for the pics.Was it originally bought at Tasca Ford?If so,That place comes with a lot of history.NICE!


um...Im going to guess that you mean 3 2 barrels?




and there is NO replacement for displacement

No,Two Three Barrels.Holley hasn't made them in years.The front half was standard arrangement with two venturis and the rear barrel was oval shaped=One huge barrel.I'll try and post a link for you youngsters.I have only seen one of these in recent years.

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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/13/2008 4:35:47 AM   
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-L88-Ford-Boss-429-Holley-3-Barrel-Carb_W0QQitemZ370050678398QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item370050678398&
Check out this piece of nostalgia,Kinda the predecessor to the dominator.

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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/13/2008 4:41:17 AM   
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The four barrel Cleveland dominated Pro Stock for quite a while due to it's superior ports.The exhaust needs to be raised to really get them to run but trust me these motors have a ****load of potential.It's my favorite of the 351 cubic inch series.Just an opinion as I had one that out ran a bunch of Mopars back in the 80's including a HEMI Road Runner.I don't tell stories just state the facts.People missed the boat on this style 351.

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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/13/2008 5:35:18 AM   
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My dad's I'm sure has loads of potential if he was willing to throw some money into it.

It's a '72 Q Code which means its the 4venturi motor.

My question is, wtf are venturis?

I know the car came with a 4 barrel carb vs a 2barrel carb on the weaker 351's, but I can't imagine the number of chambers in the carb made that big of a power difference....


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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/13/2008 1:00:17 PM   
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Sorry to hear your father ruined the value of a perfectly nice '69 Mach 1 (Best looking Mustang ever IMHO).  Without the original engine in that car you've probably dumped a good $5000 off of the resale value, shame too.  A nicely restored, numbers matching '69 Mach can easily go for $15,000-$25,000, depending on the motor.

he spent his money on what he wanted.  theres nothing wrong with that. 

if im going to rebuild an old car, and spend the ass ton of cash that would go with it... i wouldnt build it to sell it down the road (thus not caring about resale) and i wouldnt spend all that money to get something someone else wanted in the end. 

the beauty of owning our muscle cars is making them our own... what happend to that?

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RE: raced a 1969 mach1 - 5/13/2008 1:04:35 PM   
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351s are slugs eh?  so then explain how the 351 in MY mach 1 has more throttle response and revs faster than my fox, or even my brothers 347 eh?  (my car it makes some sense,  but a built 347 versus a built 351   (sorry im disappointing anyone, the 351 isnt numbers matching)

trust me, if he had put a built 351 instead of a built 302, it would have turned you every way but loose

if 351s were worse than 302s, noone would run them, why do you think so many fox body owners swap in a 351

um... you can get massive amounts of HP out of either.  if hes not building it for a full out drag monster, either engine built would suit his needs without a problem.




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