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Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/9/2008 11:05:59 PM   
rygi23


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Yup, I was downshifting at the turn around at the end of the shutdown area and the grinding started.  One too many 2/3 powershifts.  I can get it to not grind under normal acceleration if I'm gentle with it, but other than that it's the typical grind noise as it goes into gear.  How long do these symptoms stay at bay if I'm gentle with it (except on the track)?

One good thing though...

60ft   1.99
1/8    8.50
1/4   13.11@106

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/10/2008 1:32:47 AM   
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Very not bad times brudda.. Though about your tranny, if it's doing that when you're gentle with it and not grinding, I'd say you're losing the synchro and not the gear. If you were losing the gear, you'd be having trouble getting it into 3rd gear at all. The fact that it's still working is a good thing, but from what it sounds like to me, you're losing a synchro broham. I'd also check out the shift fork to see if it's bent or damaged, but I don't think that's it. You CAN damage a shift fork powershifting a lot, but that wouldn't sound like what you're describing.

You can get synchro repair or replacement kits from a lot of places. Steeda has them, I think THR has them, MM has them, and I know JEGS has them too. They're usually about a hundred bucks give or take a few bucks, depending on where you get it from. It's the labor putting it in that's a bitch.  Sorry to hear about that brudda.

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/10/2008 10:47:32 AM   
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Have you adjusted your clutch cable depress and then lift up with the top of your foot. Also  after market adjuster and and quadrant are in order for precision shifting. http://www.highperformancestangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3794



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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/11/2008 11:56:57 AM   
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by by synchro...rygi, go ask your local ford dealer to replace it TSBs are nice things

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/11/2008 5:48:52 PM   
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rebel...are you sure there was a TSB for this problem?  thx

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/11/2008 7:47:19 PM   
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rebel...are you sure there was a TSB for this problem?  thx


There definitely was a TSB for the synchros. It is probably one of the most common ones.


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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/11/2008 8:48:37 PM   
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yes 100% sure there was a TSB

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/11/2008 9:30:47 PM   
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So if there is a TSB they will fix it for free? My front control arm bushings are shot. Do you know if there is one on those? Thanks

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/12/2008 1:09:37 AM   
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^^^ Most dealerships won't fix it just for a TSB brudda. Some will some won't just to avoid pissed off customers, but a majority won't do anything with it. You might be able to convince them to fix it if you're nice, but the don't have to. The only way they HAVE to fix it is with either a company initiated or DOT initiated safety recall. Sorry to say, but other than that you're own your own..

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/12/2008 6:40:50 AM   
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really? i know that the dealerships around here will fix the TSB's i guess they're nicer than some. Of course i am kinda pushy when i get pissed...the whole marine thing comes out and i think they do it just to shut me up and get me out.

I mean it's still worth a shot to see if they will fix it if not i would either upgrade or buy the billet kit and DIY


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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/12/2008 6:48:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: USMCrebel

really? i know that the dealerships around here will fix the TSB's i guess they're nicer than some. Of course i am kinda pushy when i get pissed...the whole marine thing comes out and i think they do it just to shut me up and get me out.

I mean it's still worth a shot to see if they will fix it if not i would either upgrade or buy the billet kit and DIY




The big deal to dealerships about TSB's is they have to recreate the problem when they drive. So I'd make sure it does it under normal driving conditions. My friend had the same problem with his RX-8 and they fixed it on mazda's dime. Best of luck


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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/12/2008 7:07:41 AM   
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i didnt know how they decided who got it and who didnt that kinda sucks....BREAK IT MORE

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/12/2008 7:33:49 AM   
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i didnt know how they decided who got it and who didnt that kinda sucks....BREAK IT MORE
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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/15/2008 12:07:56 AM   
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lol  I don't have to break it more. It is loud as hell. They clunk and bang all the time. Its kind of embarrasing actually, but since i put an o/r x pipe and flowmasters with dumps you really cant hear it in the car anymore. HA HA

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/15/2008 2:54:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: USMCrebel

really? i know that the dealerships around here will fix the TSB's i guess they're nicer than some. Of course i am kinda pushy when i get pissed...the whole marine thing comes out and i think they do it just to shut me up and get me out.

I mean it's still worth a shot to see if they will fix it if not i would either upgrade or buy the billet kit and DIY



Meeehh, it's the whole eastern seaboard thing.. Every dealership I ever went to in VA was like that. Didn't want to do jack unless you had some kind of a legal reason for it.  I tried being pushy, I tried being nice, hell once I got so pissed off I got kicked out of Hall Ford in Newport News. lol Nothing ever seem to work no matter how nice or mad I was.

If they'll actually be nice and fix it, go for it brudda. Synchro's are definitely a pain in the ass..

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RE: Losing 3rd gear!!!!!Help. - 5/15/2008 6:58:14 AM   
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if worse comes to worse you get to learn how to rebuild a tranny.

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Built v6 maro
00 T/a (3)
Marauder
97 T/A
foxbody
2004 GT
SRT8 Charger
5.4 swapped F150
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